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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:08 am    Post subject: Overhead Seat Belt Holder Attach Reply with quote

I've seen lot of -10's (including Van's) with a seat belt strap holder mounted overhead on the canopy between the front seats. How are people attaching it? I drilled mine between the doors near the front door hinges and there is foam between the layers of fiberglass. I could either pull rivet it (but then it is not easily removable for the headliner, etc.) or drill through the whole top and use flat head screws.

Just wondering what others were doing
-Mike K
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:16 am    Post subject: Overhead Seat Belt Holder Attach Reply with quote

Removing the rear hinge nuts and installing under those nuts, so it's
not requiring any additional holes.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Mike Kraus wrote:
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I've seen lot of -10's (including Van's) with a seat belt strap holder
mounted overhead on the canopy between the front seats. How are people
attaching it? I drilled mine between the doors near the front door
hinges and there is foam between the layers of fiberglass. I could
either pull rivet it (but then it is not easily removable for the
headliner, etc.) or drill through the whole top and use flat head screws.

Just wondering what others were doing
-Mike K



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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:25 am    Post subject: Overhead Seat Belt Holder Attach Reply with quote

Folks are using the door hinge bolts.


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From: "Mike Kraus" <n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net>
Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Overhead Seat Belt Holder Attach
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 06:06:14 -0400

I've seen lot of -10's (including Van's) with a seat belt strap holder
mounted overhead on the canopy between the front seats. How are people
attaching it? I drilled mine between the doors near the front door
hinges and there is foam between the layers of fiberglass. I could
either pull rivet it (but then it is not easily removable for the
headliner, etc.) or drill through the whole top and use flat head
screws.

Just wondering what others were doing
-Mike K

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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:18 am    Post subject: Overhead Seat Belt Holder Attach Reply with quote

Where can one get these brackets?

Tom Deutsch

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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:50 am    Post subject: Overhead Seat Belt Holder Attach Reply with quote

They are fairly easy to fabricate but if you are lazy like me Jesse Saint
might sell you a couple. I believe he might also make you a tunnel
console/mapbox.

Mark
N410MR


[quote]From: "Tom Deutsch" <deutscht(at)rhwhotels.com>
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Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 07:18:01 -0500



Where can one get these brackets?

Tom Deutsch

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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:44 am    Post subject: Overhead Seat Belt Holder Attach Reply with quote

If you don’t want it under the same nuts as the door hinges, you can pop rivet a plate with nutplates in it to the cabin top and screw into the nutplates. This is a good way to fasten a lot of different things to the cabin top where desired.

Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)
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Subject: Overhead Seat Belt Holder Attach


I've seen lot of -10's (including Van's) with a seat belt strap holder mounted overhead on the canopy between the front seats. How are people attaching it? I drilled mine between the doors near the front door hinges and there is foam between the layers of fiberglass. I could either pull rivet it (but then it is not easily removable for the headliner, etc.) or drill through the whole top and use flat head screws.



Just wondering what others were doing

-Mike K
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:02 am    Post subject: Overhead Seat Belt Holder Attach Reply with quote

I don't know if I have photos or not, but I can take some. I used
photos of Randy's to make mine. They're just a joggled piece of
aluminum. Jesse also takes it up a notch and has leather covers
for them, but you could use whatever leather/vinyl/cloth you want
if you wanted them covered.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Tom Deutsch wrote:
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Where can one get these brackets?

Tom Deutsch

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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:32 am    Post subject: Overhead Seat Belt Holder Attach Reply with quote

A photo would be great! Does the aluminum tend to bend out of shape
when used or do you make them just loose enough that the belt just slips
in? When flying solo does the pass belt stay secured ok?

Tom Deutsch
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:13 am    Post subject: Overhead Seat Belt Holder Attach Reply with quote

They do bend down some, but just use a little stiffer material
and they'll stay pretty good. They're plenty loose to
just slip the belt in. When solo, I can leave the other
belt in, but the buckles jingle, so I usually pop it out
and let it sit on the back seat. I attached a photo that
I dug up that was in the photos area of my site. It's
the hangers Van's RV-10 has. Mine are a little wider, and
I attached them to the rear door hinge instead of the front,
but the concept is the same.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Tom Deutsch wrote:
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A photo would be great! Does the aluminum tend to bend out of shape
when used or do you make them just loose enough that the belt just slips
in? When flying solo does the pass belt stay secured ok?

Tom Deutsch
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:20 am    Post subject: Overhead Seat Belt Holder Attach Reply with quote

I usually suggest hooking up the unused shoulder harnesses to the seatbelt
when not being used. That's one projectile I would like to have "tied off"
if I was in an accident or in turbulence. When stuff starts happening, the
last thing you want is to have seatbelts dangling in your face. In fact, we
always leave the rear seat belts fastened as if someone was in the seat and
that also acts as a retainer for the baggage area in case something wanted
to fly forward in a sudden stop situation.

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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:44 am    Post subject: Overhead Seat Belt Holder Attach Reply with quote

That's a great suggestion. It's the little things that count.
I'll have to start doing that. Thanks for posting!

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Jesse Saint wrote:
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I usually suggest hooking up the unused shoulder harnesses to the seatbelt
when not being used. That's one projectile I would like to have "tied off"
if I was in an accident or in turbulence. When stuff starts happening, the
last thing you want is to have seatbelts dangling in your face. In fact, we
always leave the rear seat belts fastened as if someone was in the seat and
that also acts as a retainer for the baggage area in case something wanted
to fly forward in a sudden stop situation.

Do not archive

Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694

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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:51 am    Post subject: Overhead Seat Belt Holder Attach Reply with quote

In response to Mike Kraus' post a couple of days ago I shoot some pictures of the shoulder harness belt holder that I made and installed. It works great and can be viewed at:

http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sholderbeltholder1dk3.jpg

You can see the angle which I bent into such holder on a brake here:

http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shoulderbeltholder2zs8.jpg


You can also see the shoulder belts on such holder here:

http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shoulderbeltholder3vj4.jpg

For storage you can either cross the belts as shown above or just put them on the holder left and right. When flying without a co-pilot or rear seat passengers I keep the shoulder belts and seat belts buckled up so that they cannot fly around if something happens unexpectedly.

Russ Daves
N710RV - First Flight 7/28/06




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