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poneill(at)irealms.com
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 10:08 am Post subject: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance

I ordered RV-10 quickbuild wing and fuselage kits which Vans is ready to

crate and ship.  They offer shipment via FedEx freight but advise that I

will need to arrange for pickup of the crates from the local depot or

offloading of the truck myself.  Given the size and weight of these crates

this is obviously problematic.



How have other dealt with delivery of their QB kits?



I have never had to deal with deliveries of this nature and so this is new

territory for me.



I do not have a vehicle capable transporting these crates and I am

considering renting a 16 ft flatbed truck and making several trips to the

depot so that I can better arrange for help.  But as others have been

through this already, I wanted to see if anyone has any guidance on this to

offer.



Thank you in advance for any suggestions.



Best Regards,

Patrick ONeill

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2879

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 10:34 am Post subject: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance

I didn't deal with FedEx Freight....mine came ABF Freight.  But, still,

I had them only deliver it to the local terminal.  That way I wouldn't

have to have a full semi trailer come into my driveway.  I have a

snowmobile trailer 10' long, and that was sufficient for the largest

of crates.  Some of them fit inside (sticking out) the Suburban I used

to have.



So, if you can just get your hands on any trailer that's maybe 10-15'

long, you should easily be able to HAUL the stuff.  Getting it loaded

was always the hardest part, but at the terminal they have forklifts.

Getting it off the trailer was just a matter of a couple guys

lifting, sliding, and tilting the trailer.   The QB fuse and

finishing kit canopy box was the largest I think, and even those

weren't too unbearable.



Photos here: http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/fuselage/20050425/index.html



Also, you probably can avoid a truck rental if you try...almost

everyone has a buddy with a pickup and a trailer.  It should

cost you a case of beer.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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Patrick ONeill wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 I ordered RV-10 quickbuild wing and fuselage kits which Vans is ready to

 crate and ship.  They offer shipment via FedEx freight but advise that I

 will need to arrange for pickup of the crates from the local depot or

 offloading of the truck myself.  Given the size and weight of these crates

 this is obviously problematic.

 

 How have other dealt with delivery of their QB kits?

 

 I have never had to deal with deliveries of this nature and so this is new

 territory for me.

 

 I do not have a vehicle capable transporting these crates and I am

 considering renting a 16 ft flatbed truck and making several trips to the

 depot so that I can better arrange for help.  But as others have been

 through this already, I wanted to see if anyone has any guidance on this to

 offer.

 

 Thank you in advance for any suggestions.

 

 Best Regards,

 Patrick ONeill

indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 10:48 am Post subject: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance

Partain Transport. Nix the crates, you'll need one additional helper for a 

total of three. Besides, you will not want to spend the time cutting the 

crates apart for disposal later. It is suh a waste.



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		  From: "Patrick ONeill" <poneill(at)irealms.com>

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Subject: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance

Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 11:07:03 -0700






I ordered RV-10 quickbuild wing and fuselage kits which Vans is ready to

crate and ship.  They offer shipment via FedEx freight but advise that I

will need to arrange for pickup of the crates from the local depot or

offloading of the truck myself.  Given the size and weight of these crates

this is obviously problematic.



How have other dealt with delivery of their QB kits?



I have never had to deal with deliveries of this nature and so this is new

territory for me.



I do not have a vehicle capable transporting these crates and I am

considering renting a 16 ft flatbed truck and making several trips to the

depot so that I can better arrange for help.  But as others have been

through this already, I wanted to see if anyone has any guidance on this to

offer.



Thank you in advance for any suggestions.



Best Regards,

Patrick ONeill

av8or(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 10:51 am Post subject: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance

I don't know where you are located (CA, I  thought), but I used Partain trucking to deliver my QB Wings and Fuse.   They don't have to crate the items and you save the crating charges.  I was  pleased with their delivery right to my door and with a couple of friends we  unloaded the truck in no time.  Here's a link to Partain Transport Company  :

  

 http://vansairforce.net/graphics/partaintruckingco.htm

  

 He's an RV Builder too.

  

 John Lenhardt

 #40262

 Roanoke, VA

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LloydDR(at)wernerco.com
Guest

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 11:00 am Post subject: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance

Set up a deal with Tony Partain and they will deliver directly to your

shop, and the best customer service ever!!

Dan 

N289DT 



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John Ackerman

Joined: 19 Jun 2006
Posts: 130
Location: Prescott, AZ

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 11:54 am Post subject: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance

I can't recommend Partain trucking highly enough!

My garage is at the end of a particularly steep and difficult drive,  

and with the driver's help an one other good buddy, it was really  

quite easy.(QB wings and fuse)  If it had been some other outfit, I  

would have had no end of trouble.  No question in my mind whatever  

that I would use them again.



Now if you want to help me get the bird down the drive when it's  

ready to go to the airport...  



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about to tackle the cabin top. Yech!

On May 4, 2007, at 11:07 AM, Patrick ONeill wrote:



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 <poneill(at)irealms.com>



 I ordered RV-10 quickbuild wing and fuselage kits which Vans is  

 ready to

 crate and ship.  They offer shipment via FedEx freight but advise  

 that I

 will need to arrange for pickup of the crates from the local depot or

 offloading of the truck myself.  Given the size and weight of these  

 crates

 this is obviously problematic.



 How have other dealt with delivery of their QB kits?



 I have never had to deal with deliveries of this nature and so this  

 is new

 territory for me.



 I do not have a vehicle capable transporting these crates and I am

 considering renting a 16 ft flatbed truck and making several trips  

 to the

 depot so that I can better arrange for help.  But as others have been

 through this already, I wanted to see if anyone has any guidance on  

 this to

 offer.



 Thank you in advance for any suggestions.



 Best Regards,

 Patrick ONeill

LarryRosen

Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 415
Location: Medford, NJ

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:33 pm Post subject: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance

Another vote for Partain.

My father in law, uncle, my 8 year old son and I were easily able to 

unload with the help of the driver.

<http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/Log/Wings/Unload/index.html>

You might want to start working on a wing stand to store the QB wings.

<http://lrosen.nerv10.com/tips.html>



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rv10builder(at)bellsouth.
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:33 pm Post subject: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance

Partain Transport...I wouldn't trust anyone else unless your picking it 

up yourself!



Have a look:



http://www.golfsierra.org/9sept05/9sept05.html



Brian

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Patrick ONeill wrote:

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 I ordered RV-10 quickbuild wing and fuselage kits which Vans is ready to

 crate and ship.  They offer shipment via FedEx freight but advise that I

 will need to arrange for pickup of the crates from the local depot or

 offloading of the truck myself.  Given the size and weight of these crates

 this is obviously problematic.



 How have other dealt with delivery of their QB kits?



 I have never had to deal with deliveries of this nature and so this is new

 territory for me.



 I do not have a vehicle capable transporting these crates and I am

 considering renting a 16 ft flatbed truck and making several trips to the

 depot so that I can better arrange for help.  But as others have been

 through this already, I wanted to see if anyone has any guidance on this to

 offer.



 Thank you in advance for any suggestions.



 Best Regards,

 Patrick ONeill



  

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rv10builder(at)verizon.ne
Guest

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance

Van's advised that I would need to do the same thing with the Empennage,

however Fed Ex did deliver within 3 days and dropped it off  IN  my garage. 

I

never touched a thing until the driver left. No noticeable dings on the

boxes. I feared I would not be able to move the boxes, I never thought Fed

Ex would do it for me.

The shipping price was $100 less than Van's quoted too- liftgate and

delivery included. I can only give praise to Van's and Fed Ex Freight for my

shipping. Call FedEx freight ask if they'll deliver it for you, may be an 

excessive weight issue but it's only a call- worse they can say is no. 

Another option is have a moving company do it for you.

Pascal

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DAVELEIKAM(at)wi.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 7:07 pm Post subject: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance

I used Tony Partain.  His driver delivered my QB wings, fuse and finish kit 

almost to my door (My driveway is long and winds through some trees so his 

trailer wouldn't make it all the way to my garage.)  The trailer was low to 

the ground and we easily off loaded the wings, fuse and other crates onto an 

ATV trailer which I pulled to the garage with my ATV.  Delivery almost to my 

door and help unloading was $2701.00.  I live near Milwaukee, WI.



Dave Leikam

40496

QB wings

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av8or(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 7:56 pm Post subject: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance

The empennage kit size and weight is nothing  compared to the QB Wings and Fuse.  Check the differences on Vans  website.  Link: http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/weights.pdf

  

 I'd check with FedEx to see if they would  deliver and how much it would cost.  They would deliver my computer  equipment only if we could off-load the truck (ie. fork lift) and there was  an extra charge for residential delivery.

  

 I would NOT recommend a moving company!!!   They would not take the necessary care of the cargo and just try to get money  from a damage claim.  I worked for a moving company in a former  life.

  

 I forgot to mention in my original post that I  saved a nice sum of money with Partain's delivery too.  Both of the  aforementioned (FedEx or Moving Co) must still have the parts  crated.

  

 John Lenhardt

 #40262

 Roanoke, VA

  

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kearney(at)shaw.ca
Guest

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:31 pm Post subject: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance

Hi



I had my flatpack fuse delivered to my home. There was a problem getting it

off the truck - the crate was too large for the lift gate. What I ended up

doing was unpacking the crate on the truck (this took about 45 minutes and

was not a big deal). 



It was easy to move all the shrink wrap subkits etc. The canopy was bulky

but easily moved as well. Once in my garage, I put the canopy back in the

crate for safekeeping.



Cheers



Les

#40643



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poneill(at)irealms.com
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:10 am Post subject: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance

Huge thanks to everyone who responded with information and suggestions.  The

community here is fantastic.



It appears that Partain is the delivery vendor of choice for many.  I have

exchanged voice mails with Tony and will see what they can do.  So long as

Partain is insured on par with the other freight carriers in the event of

mishap during shipment, they seem to be the way to go.



I really like the idea of forgoing the crates.  As someone mentioned, they

are a pretty big waste of lumber if it can be avoided.  I managed to make

use of the emp crate.  With the lid off, I strecthed screen mesh over the

frame and used that as a bed for painting parts.  But I can't think of any

use for the really big crates.



But the options mentioned are a big help.  I really appreciate the

assistance!



Best Regards,

Patrick #715

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poneill(at)irealms.com
Guest

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:14 am Post subject: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance

Taking a cue from your site, that was the first option I investigated.

Unfortunately in the part of SoCal where I live, it's hard enough to find

someone with a trailer hitch let alone a trailer large enough for these

crates.



Oddly enough however, there is a nearby Hertz Equipment that rents 16' flat

bed trucks at $180 per day.  That was the fallback scenario.  Fortunately,

it looks like that can be avoided.



Best Regards,

Patrick #715

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poneill(at)irealms.com
Guest

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:20 am Post subject: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance

Larry,



I had seen that photo on your site before but did not quite understand it at

first.  I thought that was a mighty fancy crate interior!  Of course it all

makes sense now.



With regard to wing cradles, is there a preference for the carpet strap

variety versus a fixed stand?  (Like this one linked to from the Partain

page: http://www.smittysrv.com/more_stuff.asp?ID=380 )



Best Regards,

Patrick #715

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poneill(at)irealms.com
Guest

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:27 am Post subject: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance

I was told the same, but figured the emp crate was light enough that I could

grab a neighbor and at least be able to offload it into the driveway.  They

did sent a liftgate which helped and the driver did assist.  But FedEx was

quite fast.  2 day delivery, which is also what Van's quoted for the QB

crates.  6 days from order receipt by vans to crate in the driveway.  I

could not believe the price, $146 for 2-day shipping of that 200+ lbs emp

crate.  They want $1600 for the QB's.  But given the size of these one's  I

don't think the same trick would work.  It's not feasible to get 5 friends

to hang out during a workday waiting for the FedEx delivery window.



Best Regards,

Patrick #715



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poneill(at)irealms.com
Guest

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:32 am Post subject: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance

Brian,



I saw this page on your site.  Wow, wow, wow:

http://www.golfsierra.org/18aug04/18aug04-Pages/Image10.html



I knew they were large from the dimensions on Van's site, but seeing it

gives an entirely new appreciation.  Crate avoidance is a priority.  I

definitely want to avoid that if possible.  



Best Regards,

Patrick #715

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KiloPapa

Joined: 24 May 2006
Posts: 142
Location: Pearblossom, CA

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:59 am Post subject: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance

In my experience the carpet works just fine.  It is self-adjusting and the 

wing settles in and is well supported after the spar is resting flush with 

the support at the other end.  Make sure you pin the spar to the support so 

it can't slide off.  I used the design in common use and posted on many 

builder sites.  A diagram with dimensions gleaned from one of the builder's 

sites (sorry for the lack of proper credit) is attached as is my version of 

it.



Kevin

40494

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 variety versus a fixed stand?  (Like this one linked to from the Partain

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 Best Regards,

 Patrick #715

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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 11:24 am Post subject: Re: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance

I will echo Kevins comments about the carpet cradle, especially the part about fastening the spar to the support so it cannot slip off. Here is what happens when it slips off. 



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LarryRosen

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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 12:19 pm Post subject: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance

OUCH



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 I will echo Kevins comments about the carpet cradle, especially the part about fastening the spar to the support so it cannot slip off. Here is what happens when it slips off. 



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