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sportav8r(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:49 am Post subject: Rocky Mountain route: Noob question

I'm part of the gaggle from the SouthEast RV group headed to Yellowstone this weekend.  I have no mountain flying experience save what little you get living and flying in the Appalachians the past 15 years.



I plan to return home to Virginia via the Grand Canyon and Albuquerque, Dodge City, KS, St. Loiuis, MO and eastbound from there.  My question pertains mostly to getting from Cody to Flagstaff. 



This route looks promising, but I seek input from RVers who know this area:



KCOD;KRIW;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA.



I'm not sure how easy the Green River is to fly down to get to U34, but if it's a decent pass, then the highest terrain I should see enroute looks to be 9500' in the vicinity of Rock Springs, WY. 



Leaving the Grand Canyon area via KPGA;KFMN;KABQ;KDDC looks like an effortless way out to the east.



I have oxygen available, and a 160hp FP RV6A that I've never taken above 11500 MSL.  Naturally, everything's weather dependent, but I'm hoping with 6 days allocated for getting home from KCOD that this leg will be as doable as getting to Cody is.  If you're a local, or a veteran aviator in the _real_ mountains, please chime in, here or off-list.  I want to play this smart and safe.  I've done the AOPA online instructional course, seen the FAA movies on mountain flying, and "read the book," BTW. 



-Stormy

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david.nelson(at)pobox.com
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:38 am Post subject: Rocky Mountain route: Noob question

Hi Stormy,



ASF has a "Mountain Flying" course.



http://flash.aopa.org/asf/mountainFlying/html/flash.cfm



Of course, this is no substitute for hands-on training by qualified 

instructors.



Regards,

 	 /\/elson

 	 Austin, TX

 	 RV-7A - Fuselage



On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, Bill Boyd wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   I'm part of the gaggle from the SouthEast RV group headed to Yellowstone

 this weekend.  I have no mountain flying experience save what little you get

 living and flying in the Appalachians the past 15 years.



 I plan to return home to Virginia via the Grand Canyon and Albuquerque,

 Dodge City, KS, St. Loiuis, MO and eastbound from there.  My question

 pertains mostly to getting from Cody to Flagstaff.



 This route looks promising, but I seek input from RVers who know this area:



 KCOD;KRIW;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA.



 I'm not sure how easy the Green River is to fly down to get to U34, but if

 it's a decent pass, then the highest terrain I should see enroute looks to

 be 9500' in the vicinity of Rock Springs, WY.



 Leaving the Grand Canyon area via KPGA;KFMN;KABQ;KDDC looks like an

 effortless way out to the east.



 I have oxygen available, and a 160hp FP RV6A that I've never taken above

 11500 MSL.  Naturally, everything's weather dependent, but I'm hoping with 6

 days allocated for getting home from KCOD that this leg will be as doable as

 getting to Cody is.  If you're a local, or a veteran aviator in the _real_

 mountains, please chime in, here or off-list.  I want to play this smart and

 safe.  I've done the AOPA online instructional course, seen the FAA movies

 on mountain flying, and "read the book," BTW.



 -Stormy




	


-- 

~~ ** ~~ Research has shown that Mondays account for 1/7th of your time ~~ ** ~~

ronlee(at)pcisys.net
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:02 am Post subject: Rocky Mountain route: Noob question

Preliminary look is  that it is low for an RV.  I would plan on flying high using

 oxygen because in some areas the terrain is not  conducive to an off-field landing.

  

 Will assess it more later.  PS, 11,500' is my  typical LOW flying altitude.

  

 From ABQ you should be fine.  Just get over  the mountains east of ABQ.

  

 Ron Lee

  

 

This route looks promising, but I seek input from RVers who know this  area:



KCOD;KRIW;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA.

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n801bh(at)netzero.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:23 pm Post subject: Rocky Mountain route: Noob question

Fly as much as you can in the early mornings, give yourself 1000+ over any ridgetops and enjoy the scenery. Weather for this weekend looks kinda iffy, that's if the front spinning in from the NW can knock down the present high pressure we have sitting over us for the past two weeks. My bet is it will get deflected and you guys will have a great time. Fly safely. 

Ben 

Jackson Hole Wy

Ben Haas

N801BH

www.haaspowerair.com



-- "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com> wrote:

I'm part of the gaggle from the SouthEast RV group headed to Yellowstone this weekend.  I have no mountain flying experience save what little you get living and flying in the Appalachians the past 15 years.



I plan to return home to Virginia via the Grand Canyon and Albuquerque, Dodge City, KS, St. Loiuis, MO and eastbound from there.  My question pertains mostly to getting from Cody to Flagstaff. 



This route looks promising, but I seek input from RVers who know this area:



KCOD;KRIW;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA.



I'm not sure how easy the Green River is to fly down to get to U34, but if it's a decent pass, then the highest terrain I should see enroute looks to be 9500' in the vicinity of Rock Springs, WY. 



Leaving the Grand Canyon area via KPGA;KFMN;KABQ;KDDC looks like an effortless way out to the east.



I have oxygen available, and a 160hp FP RV6A that I've never taken above 11500 MSL.  Naturally, everything's weather dependent, but I'm hoping with 6 days allocated for getting home from KCOD that this leg will be as doable as getting to Cody is.  If you're a local, or a veteran aviator in the _real_ mountains, please chime in, here or off-list.  I want to play this smart and safe.  I've done the AOPA online instructional course, seen the FAA movies on mountain flying, and "read the book," BTW. 



-Stormy

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rtitsworth

Joined: 16 Jan 2006
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Location: Detroit, Mi

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:35 pm Post subject: Rocky Mountain route: Noob question

Do you have a G396. G496, or other XM weather system?  The wx can change dramatically throughout the day out west (including wind/turbulence), and bailout airports are sometimes further apart and/or on the other side of adjacent terrain.  Perhaps not a requirement, but certainly a “nice to have”, especially when traversing long distances.  

         

  

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ronlee(at)pcisys.net
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:19 pm Post subject: Rocky Mountain route: Noob question

>Preliminary look is that it is low for an  RV. 

  

 By that I meant that the RV can get well above  terrain easily.

  

 One suggestion.  From U34, consider heading to  Monument Valley.  

 Around 110 degrees, 10 minutes west and 37 degrees,  3 minutes north.

 Then head west just south of Navajo Mountain to  Page.

  

 Disregard,  Do that on your flight from Page  to FMN.  Less out of your way

 and most likely earlier in the day.  Then  circle around four corners 

 (Utah, NM, CO, AZ).  You will see Shiprock NM  almost straight ahead on 

 your way to FMN.



 From there you can head to Santa Fe (KSAF) then  pick up the expressway 

 eastbound south of Las Vegas NM (KLVS) then on  east. If you are feeling 

 adventurous, direct from KSAF to KLVS would get you  over some 

 mountains with lower terrain to your right.   No need to go south to ABQ unless 

 you want to but you are close when near  KSAF.

  

 Miami Co Kansas (K81) had cheap fuel and good BBQ  on field when I was

 there a year ago if that is on your  way.

  

 Ron Lee

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skydive80020(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:28 pm Post subject: Rocky Mountain route: Noob question

Last week I flew from Longmont (just north of Denver ) direct to Las Vegas in my 6A. 13'500 over the continental divide and the remainder of the route and area north can be handled at 11"500. Easy flight in an RV, I agree though mornings will help you avoid thunderstorms that we get off the mountains almost every afternoon. 

   

  Mark Phipps,  N242RP, Gypsy Spirit



"n801bh(at)netzero.com" <n801bh(at)netzero.com> wrote:

  [quote]  Fly as much as you can in the early mornings, give yourself 1000+ over any ridgetops and enjoy the scenery. Weather for this weekend looks kinda iffy, that's if the front spinning in from the NW can knock down the present high pressure we have sitting over us for the past two weeks. My bet is it will get deflected and you guys will have a great time. Fly safely.

  Ben

   Jackson Hole Wy

Ben Haas

N801BH

www.haaspowerair.com



-- "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com> wrote:

I'm part of the gaggle from the SouthEast RV group headed to Yellowstone this weekend.  I have no mountain flying experience save what little you get living and flying in the Appalachians the past 15 years.



I plan to return home to Virginia via the Grand Canyon and Albuquerque, Dodge City, KS, St. Loiuis, MO and eastbound from there.  My question pertains mostly to getting from Cody to Flagstaff. 



This route looks promising, but I seek input from RVers who know this area:



KCOD;KRIW;KRKS;U34;KHVE;KPGA.



I'm not sure how easy the Green River is to fly down to get to U34, but if it's a decent pass, then the highest terrain I should see enroute looks to be 9500' in the vicinity of Rock Springs, WY. 



Leaving the Grand Canyon area via KPGA;KFMN;KABQ;KDDC looks like an effortless [quote][b]

ronlee(at)pcisys.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:57 pm Post subject: Rocky Mountain route: Noob question

Another option to get a bit of a feel for the  Rockies is once you

 pass four corners, head east to Pagosa Springs  (KPSO), previously 2V1.

  

 Then go over Wolf Creek Pass just a bit left of a  direct line from KPSO to

 Del Norte (8V1).

  

 Then a direct line from 8V1 to La Junta CO (KLHX)  will take you over the

 Great Sand Dunes National Monument.  Fly over  the passes there and east to 

 flat country.

  

 Ron Lee

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ronlee(at)pcisys.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:00 am Post subject: Rocky Mountain route: Noob question

Just so you know,  the alternate routes I suggested 

 have you over  mountains for short periods.  I avoid 

 extended time over  places with no landing options.

  

 Ron  Lee

  

  

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lsbrv7a(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:57 am Post subject: Rocky Mountain route: Noob question

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  From Cody one can climb to 10,500 and cross over <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Yellowstone, 90 nm.  That is high enough that it will not be too much bother as you see Old Faithful and the other geysers.  Turn south to Driggs, KDIJ, and dine on the patio watching aircraft arrive and depart with the Teatons in the background.  Restaurants are also at Ogden.

   

  EAA 407 is having a camp-in and breakfast at KWYS in August.

   

  If you want to visit the Grand Canyon area you can continue on down the west side of the Rockies past Salt Lake City down to St. George and the Moab – Zion area.  If you want to cross back to Rock Springs, it is relatively low turning east from  Bear Lake, 1U7, to Evanston.

   

   

Bill Boyd <sportav8r(at)gmail.com> wrote:   	  Quote: 	
		  I'm part of the gaggle from the SouthEast RV group headed to Yellowstone this weekend.  I have no mountain flying experience save what little you get living and flying in the Appalachians the past 15 years.



I plan to return home to Virginia via the Grand Canyon and Albuquerque, Dodge City, KS, St. Loiuis, MO and eastbound from there.  My question pertains mostly to getting from  Cody to Flagstaff. 

	




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