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Carl
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I’m building my RV 7 brake pedals and I decided to buff one up and see how it looks, and it looks marvelous. Obviously, once installed it would be very difficult to keep it in Bristol condition, yet every RV I have seen has worn paint, yada, yada. So, do any of you super experienced builder out there have a way I could get chrome looking brake pedals that may actually last for a little while?? Is it possible to chrome plate the aluminum, or would that compromise the strength some way. I was thinking of buffing and putting on a few heavy coats of clear coat. Any thought here or am I just being too possessed to help myself. Thx Carl
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Ed Anderson
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject: Brake Pedals |
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Carl, there is a chemical method now used to plate aluminum which overcomes some of the problem way back when chrome plating of aluminum was first tired. While I did not have any aluminum chromed I had my aluminum gear box nickel plated using this technique (it turns it to a soft gold color) which stands up much better than anodizing/alodizing - its much tougher.
I was told that it is now used as a prep for chrome plating aluminum - but, I have not tried it for that.
You can read up on it if you wish starting here is good. or just goggle Electroless Nickel plating.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroless_nickel_plating
http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/MetalCoatings/Electroless.htm
Ed
Ed Anderson
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Carl,
I chose to powder coat my RV-10 pedals (they look more like chrome in person). I have zero idea how long my pedals will stay in this condition. My white painted RV-6A pedals don’t look bad after 375 hours. Attached are my RV-10 pedals.
Robin ndition10 pedals an from HumidTech
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Carl
Joined: 04 May 2007
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Location: Aiken, SC
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:02 pm Post subject: Brake Pedals |
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Mark,
What color did you use when you coated the brake pedals to look like chrome? Who does this kind of painting and what is the charge for something like this. BTW they look great. Thx Carl
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:09 PM
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Subject: RE: Brake Pedals
Carl,
I chose to powder coat my RV-10 pedals (they look more like chrome in person). I have zero idea how long my pedals will stay in this condition. My white painted RV-6A pedals don’t look bad after 375 hours. Attached are my RV-10 pedals.
Robin ndition10 pedals an from HumidTech [quote] [b]
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capsteve
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:03 pm Post subject: Brake Pedals |
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Carl, check out some of the supplier sites for color options and info. i use caswell plating (caswellplating.com) out of Rochester NY. they have a wealth of information if your interested in doing it yourself or want to see what colors are available. There are a couple chrome like options. if you prep the pedals you really shouldn't pay more than 5-10 bucks apiece at a retail shop as they only take 10 mins or so in a 400 deg oven to cure.
Steven dinieri
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From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Bell
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:02 PM
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Mark,
What color did you use when you coated the brake pedals to look like chrome? Who does this kind of painting and what is the charge for something like this. BTW they look great. Thx Carl
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:09 PM
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Subject: RE: Brake Pedals
Carl,
I chose to powder coat my RV-10 pedals (they look more like chrome in person). I have zero idea how long my pedals will stay in this condition. My white painted RV-6A pedals don’t look bad after 375 hours. Attached are my RV-10 pedals.
Robin ndition10 pedals an from HumidTech [quote]
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Depending on how hands on you are or how much you are into collecting tools, you can easily do small parts yourself. Here is a popular system with a load of different powders….
http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=412&itemType=PRODUCT&path=1%2C2%2C458%2C459%2C460&KickerID=68&KICKER
http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=845&itemType=CATEGORY
http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=18797&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=844&iSubCat=847&iProductID=18797
Michael Sausen
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From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Bell
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:02 PM
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Subject: RE: Brake Pedals
Mark,
What color did you use when you coated the brake pedals to look like chrome? Who does this kind of painting and what is the charge for something like this. BTW they look great. Thx Carl
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:09 PM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Brake Pedals
Carl,
I chose to powder coat my RV-10 pedals (they look more like chrome in person). I have zero idea how long my pedals will stay in this condition. My white painted RV-6A pedals don’t look bad after 375 hours. Attached are my RV-10 pedals.
Robin ndition10 pedals an from HumidTech [quote] ; - The RV-List Email Forum -http://www.matronics.cobsp; - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com</==================[/b] [b]
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:24 am Post subject: Brake Pedals |
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I didn't look over the whole site, but Harbor Freight has the gun, oven, and some colors of powder.
Linn
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RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
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Depending on how hands on you are or how much you are into collecting tools, you can easily do small parts yourself. Here is a popular system with a load of different powders….
http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=412&itemType=PRODUCT&path=1%2C2%2C458%2C459%2C460&KickerID=68&KICKER
http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=845&itemType=CATEGORY
http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=18797&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=844&iSubCat=847&iProductID=18797
Michael Sausen
-10 Limbo
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Carl Bell
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:02 PM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Brake Pedals
Mark,
What color did you use when you coated the brake pedals to look like chrome? Who does this kind of painting and what is the charge for something like this. BTW they look great. Thx Carl
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:09 PM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Brake Pedals
Carl,
I chose to powder coat my RV-10 pedals (they look more like chrome in person). I have zero idea how long my pedals will stay in this condition. My white painted RV-6A pedals don’t look bad after 375 hours. Attached are my RV-10 pedals.
Robin ndition10 pedals an from HumidTech | Quote: | ; - The RV-List Email Forum -http://www.matronics.cobsp; - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Quote: | | Thanks Carl, The pedals are powder coated not painted. I selected the chrome color (and the blue) from a list of color choices making sure to select powder coatings that had a high durability rating and had a UV inhibitor component so they would not change color over time when exposed to the sun. Using the powder coating material rated for “exterior” is a good start. As far as cost is concerned that may depend on who you take your parts to however I have found that the biggest cost is the first piece, if you have a selection of 12 parts all the same color it probably will not cost much more than having one piece done since there is a bit of set up involved and spraying 12 parts on a rack is just about as easy as spraying one part. I know there are MANY people on the list more qualified to discuss this process on the list me but if cost is a concern or you are one of the “do everything yourself types” then you can powder coat (PC) your parts yourself relatively inexpensively. I own a manufacturing facility and we set up a PC booth out of half a refrigerator box and coat hangers. One can buy a PC gun on eBay new for $100.00 and the actual powder is inexpensive. The only problem is that a sprayed part needs to be baked in an oven for 10-20 minutes at 350-400 degrees (time & temp specified by powder manufacturer). It is not difficult to get good at this but I warn you that once you start it’s hard to stop powder coating things. Also note that the oven should not be used for food once it has been used for powder coating. I have purchased PC powder from this company for some home furnishing projects. Ebay is also a good source for powder. https://www.pendrypowdercoatings.com/shop/index.php?osCsid=949392b82a9d56a221209d308cdf6b23 Good luck,Robin Marks The pedals are powder coated not painted. I selected the chrome color (and the blue) from a list of color choices making sure to select powder coatings that had a high durability rating and had a UV inhibitor component so they would not change color over time when exposed to the sun. Using the powder coating material rated for “exterior” is a good start. |
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capsteve
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the harbor freight oven works very well as does the application gun, but the powder is not of the same quality as the powders offered from pro suppliers.i still can't get them to lay right.......steve
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 11:2
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I didn't look over the whole site, but Harbor Freight has the gun, oven, and some colors of powder.
Linn
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Depending on how hands on you are or how much you are into collecting tools, you can easily do small parts yourself. Here is a popular system with a load of different powders….
http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=412&itemType=PRODUCT&path=1%2C2%2C458%2C459%2C460&KickerID=68&KICKER
http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=845&itemType=CATEGORY
http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=18797&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=844&iSubCat=847&iProductID=18797
Michael Sausen the same quali
-10 Limbo
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Carl Bell
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:02 PM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Brake Pedals
Mark,
What color did you use when you coated the brake pedals to look like chrome? Who does this kind of painting and what is the charge for something like this. BTW they look great. Thx Carl
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:09 PM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Brake Pedals
Carl,
I chose to powder coat my RV-10 pedals (they look more like chrome in person). I have zero idea how long my pedals will stay in this condition. My white painted RV-6A pedals don’t look bad after 375 hours. Attached are my RV-10 pedals.
Robin ndition10 pedals an from HumidTech
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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Carl
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:15 pm Post subject: Brake Pedals |
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Robin,
I found a place in Augusta that does powder coating and took them over today. Did you powder coat the tubing also, or paint over Vans grey powder coat?
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:09 PM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Brake Pedals
Carl,
I chose to powder coat my RV-10 pedals (they look more like chrome in person). I have zero idea how long my pedals will stay in this condition. My white painted RV-6A pedals don’t look bad after 375 hours. Attached are my RV-10 pedals.
Robin ndition10 pedals an from HumidTech [quote] [b]
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:15 pm Post subject: Brake Pedals |
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Carl,
I would send this reply via email vs. the list but I don’t have your email.
Not sure what you are asking, nothing on my -10 has been painted to date. I powder coated all the items you see on the pedal assembly plus I powder coated my steps and the center windshield tube in chrome. While I was at it I PC’d my interior door handles and a custom “dish” in which my fuel valve resides.
I expect to make 2-3 more trips to the powder coater for the balance of the build.
Robin
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Bell
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:16 PM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Brake Pedals
Robin,
I found a place in Augusta that does powder coating and took them over today. Did you powder coat the tubing also, or paint over Vans grey powder coat?
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:09 PM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Brake Pedals
Carl,
I chose to powder coat my RV-10 pedals (they look more like chrome in person). I have zero idea how long my pedals will stay in this condition. My white painted RV-6A pedals don’t look bad after 375 hours. Attached are my RV-10 pedals.
Robin ndition10 pedals an from HumidTech | Quote: | | http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List |
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Pete, Do you have any pics of your aluminum trays that keep the water from your instruments?
Greg
RV-7 tipup all electric panel
On 9/25/07, PeterHunt1(at)aol.com (PeterHunt1(at)aol.com) <PeterHunt1(at)aol.com (PeterHunt1(at)aol.com)> wrote:[quote] My pedals are the aluminum part supplied by Van. I drilled a number of holes (around one inch) to lighten the weight and then buffed the aluminum with Scotch Bright. The buffed aluminum looks beautiful, even after 250 hours. Not a mark on them. Paint, even powder coating, will scuff off. I also made foot rests (fastened to the two outside vertical bars of the rudder) in the same manner. You can see part of my brake pedals if you enlarge the panel picture of my airplane at www.petesrvaviationproducts.com .
Pete in Clearwater
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