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indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:51 pm Post subject: closing up the bottom wing skin.

Silly question-

  

 What position have people placed the wing in to try to get interior access to all the rivets with the bucking bar. Seems with the wings in the craddle, my arms are not long enough to reach those rivets at the rear spar area, or did everyone get a helper with the rivets?

  

 Thanks,

  

 John G. 409

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mritter509(at)msn.com
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:44 pm Post subject: closing up the bottom wing skin.

Absolutely - get help and bandages.  Make sure women and children are out of hearing range.

  

 Mark

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What position have people placed the wing in to try to get interior access to all the rivets with the bucking bar. Seems with the wings in the craddle, my arms are not long enough to reach those rivets at the rear spar area, or did everyone get a helper with the rivets?

 

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Tim Olson

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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:48 pm Post subject: closing up the bottom wing skin.

With the bottom skins?  Definitely a helper.

Laid them flat on the bench, but lots of ways would

work, with a helper.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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John Gonzalez wrote:

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		   Silly question-

  

 What position have people placed the wing in to try to get interior 

 access to all the rivets with the bucking bar. Seems with the wings in 

 the craddle, my arms are not long enough to reach those rivets at the 

 rear spar area, or did everyone get a helper with the rivets?

  

 Thanks,

  

 John G. 409

orchidman

Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 277
Location: Oklahoma City - KRCE

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:49 pm Post subject: Re: closing up the bottom wing skin.

I guess if you are a small framed person you might have problems reaching.  I did mine while they were on the cradle by my self  I found that holding both the bucking bar and the gun, I was able to get better control.  But it does take some real contortions to get into position for some of them.  

If you have a helper available great.

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jchang10

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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:09 pm Post subject: closing up the bottom wing skin.

Do you have to remove the control tubes to rivet the bottom skins on?



Jae

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 I guess if you are a small framed person you might have problems reaching.  I did mine while they were on the cradle by my self  I found that holding both the bucking bar and the gun, I was able to get better control.  But it does take some real contortions to get into position for some of them. [Shocked] 

 If you have a helper available great.



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ron.mcgann(at)baesystems.
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: closing up the bottom wing skin.

John,

  

 I did mine solo with the wings in the cradle - some were a  challenge but I'm very happy with the results.  I'm 5'9" and my knuckles  don't drag on the floor.  I used safety wire to hold the skins up and out  of the way to access the rear spar rivets. I borrowed the idea from  Deems - see his web site.

  

 cheers,

 Ron

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What position have people placed the    wing in to try to get interior access to all the rivets with the bucking bar.    Seems with the wings in the craddle, my arms are not long enough to reach    those rivets at the rear spar area, or did everyone get a helper    with the rivets?

 

Thanks,

 

John G. 409

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thane

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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:26 pm Post subject: closing up the bottom wing skin.

Did all botom skins by myself, but have long arms.   But did end up with rivet rash on arms.

 So it can be done, just do what it takes to have a nice  result.

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Tim Olson

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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:48 pm Post subject: closing up the bottom wing skin.

I sure would...makes it easier.  Removing them is a snap.

Well, actually more of a twist of a nut.



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Jae Chang wrote:

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 Do you have to remove the control tubes to rivet the bottom skins on?

 

 Jae

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 orchidman wrote:

> 

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> I guess if you are a small framed person you might have problems 

> reaching.  I did mine while they were on the cradle by my self  I 

> found that holding both the bucking bar and the gun, I was able to get 

> better control.  But it does take some real contortions to get into 

> position for some of them. [Shocked] If you have a helper available 

> great.

>

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> Gary Blankenbiller

> RV10 - # 40674

> Fuselage SB

> (N410GB reserved)

rv10(at)sinkrate.com
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:50 pm Post subject: closing up the bottom wing skin.

I did.  You need to room to get your arm in there.



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jeff(at)westcottpress.com
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:54 pm Post subject: closing up the bottom wing skin.

I did it all myself John... and though my arms are quite long I don't think that came in to play much.  The bottom skins are much easier to rivet than they look.  I avoided it for a few days, but once I started I couldn't remember what all the fuss was about.  I kept the wings in the cradle the whole time.

Jeff Carpenter

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On Dec 6, 2007, at 11:47 AM, John Gonzalez wrote:

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		  Silly question-

 

What position have people placed the wing in to try to get interior access to all the rivets with the bucking bar. Seems with the wings in the craddle, my arms are not long enough to reach those rivets at the rear spar area, or did everyone get a helper with the rivets?

 

Thanks,

 

John G. 409

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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:59 pm Post subject: closing up the bottom wing skin.

Flat on the bench is what seems to work best, with a helper at least.  Haven't seen them done or tried to do them solo, but it sounds like it can be done.  What we have found is that taping some foam around the bucking bar except the face that hits the rivet is also helpful in case you drop it.

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On Dec 6, 2007, at 2:47 PM, John Gonzalez wrote:

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What position have people placed the wing in to try to get interior access to all the rivets with the bucking bar. Seems with the wings in the craddle, my arms are not long enough to reach those rivets at the rear spar area, or did everyone get a helper with the rivets?

 

Thanks,

 

John G. 409

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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject: closing up the bottom wing skin.

Ditto on taping the bucking bar; we use small pieces of  silicone baffling material to protect adjacent surfaces from the stray  trajectories of the bucking bar. Also when two surfaces are not clamped tightly  together before riveting, it is sometimes necessary to use a draw bead made of  silicone rubber to set the rivet so that the first strike of the rivet gun sets  them together. I believe I sent pictures of a draw bead and described its  use in previous posts.

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Subject: Re: closing up the bottom  wing skin.

Flat on the bench is what seems to work best, with a helper at least.   Haven't seen them done or tried to do them solo, but it sounds like it can  be done.  What we have found is that taping some foam around the bucking  bar except the face that hits the rivet is also helpful in case you drop it. 

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What position have people placed the wing in to try to    get interior access to all the rivets with the bucking bar. Seems with the    wings in the craddle, my arms are not long enough to reach those rivets at the    rear spar area, or did everyone get a helper with the    rivets?

Thanks,

John G. 409

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