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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:45 am Post subject: RV safety RV_Stats-1.pdf -

Given the inital guesses of primary cause of the three  fatal 10 crashes (out of 100+ flying) they seem to be spread over three  categories. I do agree , however , that time in type and recent experience are  prime considerations of insurance companies as well as indicators of probable  safe operation. Certainly continuing to fly regularly while building will  promote improved accident stats. Another thing that will improve safety is  getting real comfortable with all the new electronics and button pushing in day  VFR before expanding the envelope. Read the accident reports where the pilot  says to the co-pilot, "wonder why its doing that?" then (sound of impact) on the  CVR. 

   From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John  Cox

Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 8:55 AM

To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: FW: RV-List: RV safety  RV_Stats-1.pdf -

This  post is read by a number of readers on this list as well, but for those who do  not follow it there, the value is clear in reviewing the attached Ron Wanttaja  PDF. 

Dumb  Pilot Errors are the leading cause of RV accidents (significantly).   Maintenance is seldom the cause because there are so many experts out there on  such popular kits.  Builder Errors for RVs are greater than Homebuilts in  general and may be a result of many assuming that techniques used by others and  factory plans are without fault and the builders  blindly move ahead with  the moving herd.   Try being the first for the Acme 1000 and every  step is carefully considered and reviewed.  Fuel Exhaustion in RVs is  inexcusably high and is significantly higher than other homebuilts. (Tell me  Why?) 

Now,  here is where you should each be focusing. These statistics are not yet updated  for calendar 2005 and 2006 (the RV-10 began gaining flight hours in 2005).   Ron concluded that lower accident rates for RVs is a result of generally higher  hours of aeronautical experience and more advanced ratings of RV pilots.   If you have ever looked over the field of RVers at EAA functions you could  conclude they tend to be much older and therefore less bold.  Conclusion,  the RV-10 is significantly more complex and challenging than our little brother  RV-6, RV-7 or RV8.  A statistically large number of RV-10 builders had/have  no pilots license (during the build) or significantly lower experience than  Ron's premise.    Many of the builders are younger than his  statistics imply.  A high percentage have minimally low IFR time (Tim is an  exception here). 

This  is an opportunity in the making for rather dramatic Recurrent and Advanced  Training for Pilots from the RV-10 fleet.  We have the ability to skew the  accident statistics either direction we choose.  The choice is truly  ours. 

Do  you want to play or move with the herd?  The insurance underwriters will  move these policy costs to remain profitable businessmen. Three (possibly four)  aircraft total losses and four POBs in the last five months.  2008 is going  to be a busy year. 

John  C - circa 2008 

From:  owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com]  On Behalf Of Jerry Springer

Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 1:05  AM

To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RV-List: RV safety  RV_Stats-1.pdf -

Hi all,

I am sure that a lot of  you have heard of or read some of Ron Wanttaja,'s articles

He writes article  and gives talks at EAA functions about safety etc.and does statistical  studies

mostly pertaining to homebuilt aircraft. I have known

him for a  few years and I wrote to him and ask if he could help with the statistic  regarding

RV accidents compared to the rest of the homebuilt community

and  this is what he sent me.

Jerry  Springer

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