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Float Flyr
Joined: 19 Jul 2006
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Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland
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 Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 3:05 pm Post subject: finally i got my check ride, BUT. |
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If it works! I think it’s a great idea.
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Noel Loveys
Campbellton, NL, Canada
CDN AME intern, PP-Rec
C-FINB, Kitfox III-A
582 B box, Ivo IFA, Aerocet 1100 floats
[url=noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca]noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca[/url]
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 3:58 AM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: finally i got my check ride, BUT.
At 02:47 PM 5/14/2008, you wrote:
9. Make sure you have memorized the field of reference out the wind screen, such that the plane is flying perfectly straight ahead !! There is definitely a technique for this as the off centered view in a fox is deceiving.
I still have my "beginners" stripes on my windshield. 1/8" blue tape. The horizontal one is the horizon in a 3-point attitude. The vertical one is a "gunsight" that doubles when I focus at infinity, giving me a bracket for the centerline. Embarrassing, but I've gotten over it.
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Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 12:09 pm Post subject: finally i got my check ride, BUT. |
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Today we had great weather here in Norway, and I went flying again. Had 12
landings.
The tip about gap-sealing the elevator was great, have much more elevator
authority now. I can 3 point now without the bouncing with the same flap
setting. So my problem (except that I am a amateur in a taildragger) was as
a lot of you described, my main wheel touched before the tail wheel, and
when the tail wheel hit the ground, the angle was increased and I had more
lift to take care of.
Thanks to all for your tips, it helped me a lot.
I am practicing on 3 point landings before going to the next step with wheel
landings. (off course with no crosswind, I am a chicken there:-)
Geir Olav
LN-YGR
Kitfox IV (speedster ving)
Jabiru 2200.
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] På vegne av Geir Olav Øien
Sendt: 14. mai 2008 23:16
Til: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Emne: RE: Re: finally i got my check ride, BUT.
<geir_olav(at)c2i.net>
Thanks to all for the postings for my bouncing problem, will take all this
information and practice the first opportunity. Will gap seal my elevators,
and not use the flap when practicing landings (have to fly about 30 min to
another airstrip to practice landings) but this airstrip is long and nice
(soft field). Will come back with more info how everything is going. But I
clearly see the problem with using the flap and elevator authority, and all
I need is practice. Some friends of me did not believe a Kitfox 4 would
cruise on or above 100mph, but what you wrote below here state my numbers.
Thanks again
Geir Olav
LN-YGR
Kitfox IV (speedster ving)
Jabiru 2200.
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] På vegne av kitfoxmike
Sendt: 14. mai 2008 19:49
Til: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Emne: Re: finally i got my check ride, BUT.
I just finished with my daily flight and I actually took notice of what
happens when I land. First off, and I think this is important, I'm going to
post some stats on my airplane.
Kitfox model 4 1200 speedster.
Rotax 912 80horse
Ivo prop inflight adjust.
dry weight is 650
300left 302right
48tail
I have vg's on the wing with 10%back, none on the horizontal
I have gap seals on the elevator, but they have blown out on about 30% of
such.
I weigh in at a whopping 180lbs. If I have a passenger that's another 160.
I have two 16gal tanks in the wings.
I have a cruise speed of 103kts. Gps.
Now when I land I normally do a short in approach, generally about a 1000ft
out from the approach end of the runway, I will do 100mph indicated on the
down wind, when In base I will be doing about 90mph, then I turn to final
with a 60degree bank about 100ft off, as I'm half way in the turn I will put
in full right rudder and slice it down to about 20 off the ground at which
time I will be around 80mph, I keep in right rudder and level off and let up
on the aileron and use only that needed to keep centerline, I will keep this
until about 60 than I will straighten the aircraft
and land it.
If I do a straight in I will establish 70mph for the final, seems to work
best for me, any slower and the nose comes up to much and gets too boring,
No flaps ever, I like to have 60 over the approach end of the runway, flat
prop, and power all the way back, (my rpm for full back is 300rpm, real
slow) As I run over the approach end I will be about 10ft off, I start to
pull back on the stick to get a slight nose high, after this I use throttle
only, as I slow so does the engine, so I increase slightly. When I touch
down I'm always at 40mph, 45 will make me bounce slightly, not noticeably by
anybody watching, but I know it.
I had to go out and fly some touches to know what my speeds are because to
be frank, I don't look at my indicator, I just fly in. I may glance at the
airspeed to make sure I'm close to 70 at about 3000ft out.
When I do a wheel landing I do the same speeds except the touch down is at
55mph indicated, makes a real nice landing. Than I will pull power off and
slowly pull back on the stick to lower the rear wheel.
Remember your ailerons will start working at 25mph. with no flaps those
buggers work real good also
Now just a little brag here, I put on new tires last year, I have over 6000
landings on them. I never squeak the tires, and very seldom bounce. I put
in 310hrs. 408 flights for 2007. I do an average of 30 t &G a flight. I
can do a touch and go every minute.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=183159#183159
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Michel
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 966
Location: Norway
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 1:02 pm Post subject: finally i got my check ride, BUT. |
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On May 25, 2008, at 10:06 PM, Geir Olav Øien wrote:
| Quote: | The tip about gap-sealing the elevator was great, have much more
elevator
authority now. I can 3 point now without the bouncing with the same
flap
setting.
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Well done, Geir! You may also consider gap sealing your rudder. It
should give more directional authority when landing in crosswind
conditions. Not that I have tested much myself, though; as a Norwegian,
I am just as scared as you are of crosswind! 
Cheers,
Michel
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 4:01 am Post subject: finally i got my check ride, BUT. |
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I have close to nothing in gap between the vertical stab, and rudder,
because I have different hinges (-4-1200), and foam-filler on the stab to
minimize clearance. As far as I remember, you Michel has the KF-3 with the
same type of hinges on the rudder as you have on the elevator. This will
create a gap of aprox 1/2".
Geir.
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] På vegne av Michel Verheughe
Sendt: 25. mai 2008 22:58
Til: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Emne: Re: Re: finally i got my check ride, BUT.
On May 25, 2008, at 10:06 PM, Geir Olav Øien wrote:
| Quote: | The tip about gap-sealing the elevator was great, have much more
elevator
authority now. I can 3 point now without the bouncing with the same
flap
setting.
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Well done, Geir! You may also consider gap sealing your rudder. It
should give more directional authority when landing in crosswind
conditions. Not that I have tested much myself, though; as a Norwegian,
I am just as scared as you are of crosswind!
Cheers,
Michel
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