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Fergus Kyle

Joined: 03 Jun 2007
Posts: 291
Location: Burlington ON Canada

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: Wing sling belting

Cheers,

	Another cry in the wilderness.........

	The original classic trailer wing slings were made from fairly

compliant black rubber which over the years has lent a tender black smudge

on the wing surfaces in my latest transport attempt. Consumed by rage and

jealousy, I ripped the offending materials from the carcass, and am now left

with bitter regret and bits of rubber - and the strange feeling I may have

been a touch venal.

	I am assuming that some of the early trailer-ites may have

encountered the same disappointment and discovered a suitable replacement. I

would like to think there's a supple, strong, compliant white compound

(perhaps food belting) out there waiting to be scooped up and a thankful

discoverer just keening to share his victory information.

	I've tried gleaning details from McMaster-Carr but I'm no chemist

and the technical characteristics escape me. As a result I have five feet of

intransigent, vicious brown crud in the garage waiting to chew holes in my

wings. I'll hoof it with the pinions strapped to my back first...

	If you have superior knowledge and/or experience in this endeavour.

let me be the first to help distribute it. Please?

Ferg

Europa Classic A064 still bumbling ahead

jeff(at)rmmm.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject: Wing sling belting

Ferg,

I don't transport mine but I do have a wing dolly that I've left them 

in for a few years while building other parts. I used 8 inch wide 

strips of carpet. Good old rugged shag carpet. I still use it when I 

have the wings off and it's never left a mark, It's still as strong as 

6 years ago when I built the dolly.



Jeff R.

A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 126 hours and climbing slowly and is cooling 

correctly.

On Jun 25, 2008, at 4:39 PM, Fergus Kyle wrote:



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 Cheers,

 	Another cry in the wilderness.........

 	The original classic trailer wing slings were made from fairly

 compliant black rubber which over the years has lent a tender black 

 smudge

 on the wing surfaces in my latest transport attempt. Consumed by rage 

 and

 jealousy, I ripped the offending materials from the carcass, and am 

 now left

 with bitter regret and bits of rubber - and the strange feeling I may 

 have

 been a touch venal.

 	I am assuming that some of the early trailer-ites may have

 encountered the same disappointment and discovered a suitable 

 replacement. I

 would like to think there's a supple, strong, compliant white compound

 (perhaps food belting) out there waiting to be scooped up and a 

 thankful

 discoverer just keening to share his victory information.

 	I've tried gleaning details from McMaster-Carr but I'm no chemist

 and the technical characteristics escape me. As a result I have five 

 feet of

 intransigent, vicious brown crud in the garage waiting to chew holes 

 in my

 wings. I'll hoof it with the pinions strapped to my back first...

 	If you have superior knowledge and/or experience in this endeavour.

 let me be the first to help distribute it. Please?

 Ferg

 Europa Classic A064 still bumbling ahead

raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
Guest

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:04 pm Post subject: Wing sling belting

Ferg,



 	  Quote: 	
		   If you have superior knowledge and/or experience in this endeavour.


	


Definetely I have not but...



I bought an used old trailer from Germany and modified it little.

Later I installed also a floor to it.

First of all I put those rubbers to the hell,

copied the wing shape and made new ones from wood.

Look at the pics, they are yellow!

Over those those wooden blocks I glued some very SOFT and THICK material.

Just to prevent rubbing the wing painting, I use gling film over the wings everytime I carry them.

That works. Hope this helps. My wings are more beautiful than new ones and I have trailered them

20 times = let is say 400 km = 250 miles.



BTW 1: there are somewhere in the USA a copy pair of my wooden blocks and I hope he is happy w them.

BTW 2: I never carry my stabilators on the trailer!!!



Cleaning: I had same problem in a different place. The door rubber seals marked my cream colour doors ugly black. I tried everything like acetone to clean the door´s inside surfaces. Nothing helped - it was like a shit on the wall. Finally somebody gave me a tip to try method "same". My doors were easily cleaned by rubbing them with just ordinary pencil (india) rubber (eraser). Try it!



Terveisin, Raimo



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topglock(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:06 pm Post subject: Wing sling belting

6" conveyor belting from McMaster-Carr on my transporter, lined with......... you guessed it, carpet.  Three years of to and from (when needed) and no marks on the paint.

 

 Jeff - Baby Blue

 

 JEFF ROBERTS wrote: [quote]--> Europa-List message posted by: JEFF ROBERTS <jeff(at)rmmm.net> (jeff(at)rmmm.net)   

   

 Ferg,   

 I don't transport mine but I do have a wing dolly that I've left them in for a few years while building other parts. I used 8 inch wide strips of carpet. Good old rugged shag carpet. I still use it when I have the wings off and it's never left a mark, It's still as strong as 6 years ago when I built the dolly.   

   

 Jeff R.   

 A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 126 hours and climbing slowly and is cooling correctly.   

   

   

 On Jun 25, 2008, at 4:39 PM, Fergus Kyle wrote:   

   

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		  --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO(at)rac.ca> (VE3LVO(at)rac.ca)     

     

 Cheers,     

     Another cry in the wilderness.........     

     The original classic trailer wing slings were made from fairly     

 compliant black rubber which over the years has lent a tender black smudge     

 on the wing surfaces in my latest transport attempt. Consumed by rage and     

 jealousy, I ripped the offending materials from the carcass, and am now left     

 with bitter regret and bits of rubber - and the strange feeling I may have     

 been a touch venal.     

     I am assuming that some of the early trailer-ites may have     

 encountered the same disappointment and discovered a suitable replacement. I     

 would like to think there's a supple, strong, compliant white compound     

 (perhaps food belting) out there waiting to be scooped up and a thankful     

 discoverer just keening to share his victory information.     

     I've tried gleaning details from McMaster-Carr but I'm no chemist     

 and the technical characteristics escape me. As a result I have five feet of     

 intransigent, vicious brown crud in the garage waiting to chew holes in my     

 wings. I'll hoof it with the pinions strapped to my back first...     

     If you have superior knowledge and/or experience in this endeavour.     

 let me be the first to help distribute it. Please?     

 Ferg     

 Europa Classic A064 still bumbling ahead     

     

     

     

     

     

     

   

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kpaviat(at)verizon.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:08 pm Post subject: Wing sling belting

Hi Fergus! I replaced my sling material with conveyer belt material approx

.050 thick and 4 inches width to support the wing without sagging. To keep

the material from chaffing the wing surface, I first lined the sling with a

thin soft rubber material against the sling and then put a thin layer of

fine felt on the rubber. In other words, the felt contacts the wing so any

rubbing does not result in much friction or staining and the rubber material

absorbs any shock to prevent denting or deformation. You may have to adjust

the width  of the metal support at the sling mounting area to allow for

thickness variations. There are numerous materials available from

McMaster-Carr. Hope this helps!

Kim Prout

ptag.dev(at)tiscali.co.uk
Guest

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:49 pm Post subject: Wing sling belting

Hi! Ferg

I used scrap conveyor belting but lined it with carpet by using a very

strong industrial spray on adhesive. However be careful not to make the

gap too tight or you will squeeze the wing.(lots of places have scrap

belting)

Regards

Bob Harrison G-PTAG



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pr(at)dcanderson.myzen.co
Guest

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:53 am Post subject: Wing sling belting

Fergus,

    Further to the other replies that you have had which suggest lining the 

supporting medium with carpet, the trouble with carpet is that it absorbs 

water if you have to trail in the rain. I now use polypropylene belt with 

synthetic leather sleeve over the top. I still get a slight mark on the wing 

but it is relatively easy to remove.

    Roger (G-BXTD)

Fergus Kyle

Joined: 03 Jun 2007
Posts: 291
Location: Burlington ON Canada

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:09 am Post subject: Wing sling belting

To jeff Roberts, Jeff -Baby blue, Kim, Raimo and Bob,

	Thanks for having taken the time to save my wings. I'm going out to

find the carpeting that fits the bill today. Think I'll slide a plate of

polyethylene next the wings, and force the clamps out a bit. Also, I found

Raimo's solution to be ideal - rub out black rubber with a rubber

eraser.......   Once again, the net pays great dividends!

Cheers, Ferg

Fergus Kyle

Joined: 03 Jun 2007
Posts: 291
Location: Burlington ON Canada

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:34 am Post subject: Wing sling belting

I forgot to thank Frank Wood out in Pincher Creek alberta for having taken

the time with the others to solve my problem.

Thanks, Frank (I learned to fly at Claresholm)

Ferg

jimpuglise(at)comcast.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:29 am Post subject: Wing sling belting

Ferg-

  

 I have gone a little differrent route.  I placed the wings vertically (TE down) and covered about 10 inches of the LE and down about 24 inches with plastic.  I then took 4 plies of uni about 8 inches X 48 inches and laid them over the LE to use it like a mold.  I added plastic on the outside of it and taped it to assure that the UNI held fast to the shape of the wing.  After cure, I cut it into two pieces 4 X 48 and used them to outline the shape of the wing on plywood.  I made up two pieces from plywood and glued the UNI forms into them.  I line the UNI with bubble wrap to transport the wings and it seems to work very well.  For those who are having trouble with rubber getting onto your wings, the bubble wrap may ge a good solution.  It is very inexpensive and can be used several times.

  

 Jim Puglise A-283

  

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jimpuglise(at)comcast.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:29 am Post subject: Wing sling belting

-------------- Original message ----------------------

From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO(at)rac.ca>

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 To jeff Roberts, Jeff -Baby blue, Kim, Raimo and Bob,

 	Thanks for having taken the time to save my wings. I'm going out to

 find the carpeting that fits the bill today. Think I'll slide a plate of

 polyethylene next the wings, and force the clamps out a bit. Also, I found

 Raimo's solution to be ideal - rub out black rubber with a rubber

 eraser.......   Once again, the net pays great dividends!

 Cheers, Ferg

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