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jean-paul.roy4(at)tlb.sym
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:30 am Post subject: Elevator solid rivets

Good morning all

Out of curiosity, I wanted to know the reason why Zenith asks for the installation of solid rivets on the elevator trailing edge versus pulled rivets.



Secondly, what is the best tool to use for those rivets?



Jean-Paul Roy

7-6265 tail almost complete

Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1416
Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:50 am Post subject: Re: Elevator solid rivets

I have to ask. Where are there solid rivets on the elevator? It's been a while since I built that part but I would think I would remember. In fact I'm sure I haven't installed a single solid rivet in my XL.



Of course there are some installed by the factory in the wing spar but I really don't remember any in the tail.

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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

shilocom(at)mcmsys.com
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:57 am Post subject: Elevator solid rivets

If You don't have a reivet squeezer you can use a solid surface and a flat ended

punch and hammer.  If they are calling for round headed rivets, you will need

a die made to fit the round rivet.  I have taken a bucking bar or good size

piece of bar stock and drilled it and inserted the die in it.  For a few rivets

you might be able to machine a recess to fit the rivet head using a die grinding

burr in a drill press and get by.  Bob U. 



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Good morning all

Out of curiosity, I wanted to know the reason why Zenith asks for the installation

of solid rivets on the elevator trailing edge versus pulled rivets.
	


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Secondly, what is the best tool to use for those rivets?



Jean-Paul Roy

7-6265 tail almost complete

Tebenkof(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:50 am Post subject: Elevator solid rivets

You have probably realized this by now, but the pulled rivets have a big  

knobby end on the back side, normally hidden inside the structure.  Solid  rivets 

are much cleaner on the trailing edges.

jean-paul.roy4(at)tlb.sym
Guest

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:24 am Post subject: Elevator solid rivets

Gig, the solid rivets are to be installed at the trailing edge of the

elevator



Jean-Paul

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cscsail(at)gmavt.net
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:26 am Post subject: elevator solid rivets

I made a squeezer like the one shown here:  http://ch701.com/Tools/budget%20plyers/pliers.htm

works very well and was easy to make.

Gordon

jean-paul.roy4(at)tlb.sym
Guest

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:29 am Post subject: Elevator solid rivets

Yes of course. That makes much sense. Elementary...... Thank you



Jean-Paul

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moorecomp(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:01 am Post subject: Elevator solid rivets

Gig,



The XL elevator uses a closed trailing edge skin. A

bend in the skin forms the trailing edge. On the 701,

the skin wraps from the rear on the bottom, all the

way around the front, to the rear on top. It must be

riveted together at the trailing edge. Thus the solid

rivets are the best looking option.



Craig Moore A&P

701 builder wannabe 

do not archive

--- Gig Giacona <wr.giacona(at)cox.net> wrote:



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 <wr.giacona(at)cox.net>

 

 I have to ask. Where are there solid rivets on the

 elevator? It's been a while since I built that part

 but I would think I would remember. In fact I'm sure

 I haven't installed a single solid rivet in my XL.

 

 Of course there are some installed by the factory in

 the wing spar but I really don't remember any in the

 tail.

 

 --------

 W.R. Gig Giacona

 601XL Under Construction

 See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

ggower_99(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:39 am Post subject: Elevator solid rivets

This rivets are the little ones that go in the trailing edge, they are the soft kind.   

  There is a tool at AS&S to press them "Rivet Squeezer",

   

   Saludos 

  Gary Gower.



Gig Giacona <wr.giacona(at)cox.net> wrote:

  



I have to ask. Where are there solid rivets on the elevator? It's been a while since I built that part but I would think I would remember. In fact I'm sure I haven't installed a single solid rivet in my XL.



Of course there are some installed by the factory in the wing spar but I really don't remember any in the tail.



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601XL Under Construction

See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

		

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daberti(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:41 pm Post subject: elevator solid rivets

Oh NO!! You used a green scotch brite!!

I made a squeezer like the one shown here:

http://ch701.com/Tools/budget%20plyers/pliers.htm

works very well and was easy to make.

Gordon



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jean-paul.roy4(at)tlb.sym
Guest

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:00 pm Post subject: elevator solid rivets

Thank you Dave or Gordon. Exactly what I was looking for. I'll make myself a

set.



Jean-Paul



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Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1416
Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:00 am Post subject: Re: Elevator solid rivets

I forgot he was building a 701.



 	  moorecomp(at)yahoo.com wrote: 	
		  Gig,



The XL elevator uses a closed trailing edge skin. A

bend in the skin forms the trailing edge. On the 701,

the skin wraps from the rear on the bottom, all the

way around the front, to the rear on top. It must be

riveted together at the trailing edge. Thus the solid

rivets are the best looking option.



Craig Moore A&P

701 builder wannabe 

do not archive

--- Gig Giacona <wr.giacona(at)cox.net> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 <wr.giacona(at)cox.net>

 

 I have to ask. Where are there solid rivets on the

 elevator? It's been a while since I built that part

 but I would think I would remember. In fact I'm sure

 I haven't installed a single solid rivet in my XL.

 

 Of course there are some installed by the factory in

 the wing spar but I really don't remember any in the

 tail.

 

 --------

 W.R. Gig Giacona

 601XL Under Construction

 See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

_________________
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

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