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darrellhaas(at)gmail.com
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After the Arlington Fly-in I'm pumped to get back to work on my 601XL. What's the easiest way to cut the long sheets of aluminum like your nose piece on the rudder? The aviation tin snips seem to make the edges ripple. Of course it might not be the snips. It could be the operator. Any advice?
Darrell Haas
601 XL, fuse and rudder
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:40 pm Post subject: cutting long cuts of aluminum |
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Have you tried doing a first cut about a quarter of an inch out from the final line and then doing a final cut along the line. Also if you are doing a long straight cut try the Olfa P-800 knife and a straight edge:
http://www.ch601.org/tools/olfa.htm
http://www.olfa.com/UtilityKnivesDetail.aspx?C=35&Id=58
-- Craig
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Subject: cutting long cuts of aluminum
After the Arlington Fly-in I'm pumped to get back to work on my 601XL. What's the easiest way to cut the long sheets of aluminum like your nose piece on the rudder? The aviation tin snips seem to make the edges ripple. Of course it might not be the snips. It could be the operator. Any advice?
Darrell Haas
601 XL, fuse and rudder
N723DD
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject: cutting long cuts of aluminum |
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<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]--> I've found that the best way is to lay a straight edge down, clamp it tightly, and run a utility knife or an Olfa blade about a dozen times down the straightedge. If you do this right at a table edge, you just bend the scored aluminum down, and it will snap cleanly. I use a fairly light touch to keep the blade from wandering, and score it twenty times. when it snaps off, a light touch with the file and you have a nice, dressed straight edge.
Paul Rodriguez
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TxDave
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:38 pm Post subject: Re: cutting long cuts of aluminum |
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I'll agree with the other posters. The Olfa P800 is a great tool. I got mine here:
http://olfablades.stores.yahoo.net/5012.html
Attached are a couple of photos to illustrate its use.
If you haven't done so, I strongly recommend the Scratchbuilding Basics DVD from homebuilthelp.com. Mark and Dave demonstrate the Olfa knife technique along with lots of other great building tips.
Dave Clay
Temple, TX
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sky_ranger161
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| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:23 am Post subject: cutting long cuts of aluminum |
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Hey Darrell,
Like everyone else has said, the Olfa knife is the way to go. My only additional comment is about the straightedge itself. Your local Ace Hardware sells long pieces (8-10 feet) of aluminum flat stock for home improvement projects that make a great straightedge. The one I use is about 1/8" thick by 1-1/4". It works great and can be clamped along the table edge to keep your cuts nice and straight. Make sure you mark it so it doesn't get confused with your regular 6061 stock. I don't know what alloy it is, but it's different.
Hope this helps.
Debo Cox
Nags Head, NC
Scratchbuilt XL/Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/debo
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Subject: cutting long cuts of aluminum
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 10:14 PM
After the Arlington Fly-in I'm pumped to get back to
work on my 601XL.
What's the easiest way to cut the long sheets of
aluminum like your nose
piece on the rudder? The aviation tin snips seem to make
the edges ripple.
Of course it might not be the snips. It could be the
operator. Any advice?
Darrell Haas
601 XL, fuse and rudder
N723DD
do not archive
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naumuk(at)alltel.net
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| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:33 am Post subject: cutting long cuts of aluminum |
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Darryl-
Two thumbs up for the Olfa. Make sure you get the 800, nothing else will do.
Also found a great edge deburring device from Home Depot for less than $7 US (SKU 639272).
It's a little late in the game for me; I could have saved from 30-40 hours had I known about both tools from the get-go.
Bill
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rjscep(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:43 am Post subject: cutting long cuts of aluminum |
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| Quote: | I don't use those aviation snips, all you need is the straight snips
supplied at either True Value hardware or Home Depot. They work better.
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Subject: cutting long cuts of aluminum
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 3:14 AM
After the Arlington Fly-in I'm pumped to get back to
work on my 601XL.
What's the easiest way to cut the long sheets of
aluminum like your nose
piece on the rudder? The aviation tin snips seem to make
the edges ripple.
Of course it might not be the snips. It could be the
operator. Any advice?
Darrell Haas
601 XL, fuse and rudder
N723DD
do not archive
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TxDave
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| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:08 am Post subject: Re: cutting long cuts of aluminum |
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Bill,
What is this great little deburring tool of which you speak? I went to Home Depot's web site and found nothing using the sku number you listed.
Dave Clay
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Thruster87
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| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:53 pm Post subject: Re: cutting long cuts of aluminum |
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A cheap edge de-burring tool can be made by grinding a small V on the side of a hack saw blade or similar.When you pull it at approx 90deg to the edge it chamfers both edges at the same time.If you are keen you can then 320 wet/dry rub it. Cheers
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jkbrumpt(at)sa.chariot.ne
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| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:56 pm Post subject: cutting long cuts of aluminum |
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Hi Bill
Could you post a picture of the edge deburring device
Thanks
John
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| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject: cutting long cuts of aluminum |
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I find that you have to enter your zip code before the Home Depot site will let you do anything.
Anyway I’ve attached a picture of SKU# 639272. Other vendors carry it too. It’s the one with the hollow yellow handle and the dog-leg tip where the different size tips store in the handle. Here is a link to what looks like the same tool on the Avery site:
http://www.averytools.com/pc-74-43-royal-multi-burr-tool.aspx
-- Craig
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Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 7:59 PM
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Subject: Re: cutting long cuts of aluminum
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http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?jspStoreDir=hdus&catalogId=10053&productId=100166541&navFlow=3&keyword=deburring+tool&langId=-1&searchRedirect=deburring+tool&storeId=10051&endecaDataBean=com.homedepot.sa.el.wc.catalog.beans.EndecaDataBean%405294e420&ddkey=Search
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Hi Bill
Could you post a picture of the edge deburring device
Thanks
John
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Subject: Re: Zenith-List: cutting long cuts of aluminum
Darryl-
Two thumbs up for the Olfa. Make sure you get the 800, nothing else will do.
Also found a great edge deburring device from Home Depot for less than $7 US (SKU 639272).
It's a little late in the game for me; I could have saved from 30-40 hours had I known about both tools from the get-go.
Bill
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From: Craig Payne (craig(at)craigandjean.com)
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com (zenith-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:38 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: cutting long cuts of aluminum
Have you tried doing a first cut about a quarter of an inch out from the final line and then doing a final cut along the line. Also if you are doing a long straight cut try the Olfa P-800 knife and a straight edge:
http://www.ch601.org/tools/olfa.htm
http://www.olfa.com/UtilityKnivesDetail.aspx?C=35&Id=58
-- Craig
From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Darrell Haas
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:14 PM
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: cutting long cuts of aluminum
After the Arlington Fly-in I'm pumped to get back to work on my 601XL. What's the easiest way to cut the long sheets of aluminum like your nose piece on the rudder? The aviation tin snips seem to make the edges ripple. Of course it might not be the snips. It could be the operator. Any advice?
Darrell Haas
601 XL, fuse and rudder
N723DD
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:32 am Post subject: Re: cutting long cuts of aluminum |
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I never found the above mentioned Olfa knife at my local Home Depot of Lowe's stores and was too cheap to pay shipping equivalent to or greater than the purchase price of the knife. I used a regular old utility knife with great success for many long cuts. As mentioned, the key is to clamp a straight edge on the side you want to keep. That way if your knife wanders, it wanders into the cut-off side.
Good luck,
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:37 am Post subject: cutting long cuts of aluminum |
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Hi David,
About a year ago I found a scoring blade at Lowe's that fits into my old Stanley blade holder (picture attached). I'm not sure if it works as well as the fabled Olfa knife, but it works fine for me. Looking forward to seeing some of you next week.
Cheers,
Bill
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:00 pm Post subject: cutting long cuts of aluminum |
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Bill-
That looks like it would work.
Bill
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