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clint_bazzill(at)hotmail.
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:46 am Post subject: Sport Pilot

I think that an inflight adjustable prop is ok, keep the switch in the 

engine compartment.  Clint

From: Jimmie Blackwell <jimmieblackwell(at)sbcglobal.net>

Reply-To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Sport Pilot

Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 07:20:27 -0800 (PST)




<jimmieblackwell(at)sbcglobal.net>



It is documented in Part 1 of the Sport Pilot ruling under Definitions and 

Abbreviations.



   The definition says in part, "Light-sport aircraft means an aircraft, 

other than a helicopter or powered-lift that, since its original 

certification, has continued to meet the following:  (7) A fixed or 

ground-adjustable propeller if a powered aircraft other than a glider".



   I certainly agree that one should be able to change an in-flight 

adjustable prop to a fixed pitch prop on a Model IV and fly it under sport 

pilot rules.  However, the above rule is pretty clear and my conversations 

with AOPA and EAA indicate that the FAA has no intention of backing off.



   I think the important thing for anyone considering buying an airplane 

that they think is ok for a sport pilot to fly should check the history to 

make sure as to how the plane was originally certified.



   Hope this helps.



   Jimmie



flier <FLIER(at)sbcglobal.net> wrote:

   



Jimmie,



Any prop change is a major that usually requires a

new test phase as well as new airworthiness

documentation. I can't imagine that going through

that process and having a legal airworthy aircraft

that meets the limitations of a Sport Pilot rating

could NOT be flown by a Sport Pilot?? Where is that

documented?



Thanks,



Ted

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From: Jimmie Blackwell

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Sport Pilot



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 >I do not know if AOPA is in correct, but I do know

that for an airplane to be qualified for Sport Pilot

it must have been originally certified and

continually maintained at a maximum gross weight of

1320 lbs. and other criteria such as a fixed pitch or

ground adjustable prop. For example, if a Kitfox

ever had an inflight adjustable prop it can never be

legally flown by someone flying under sport pilot

rules. I know it does not make sense, but that is

the rule. Let's be glad that the rule is there,

though it is not perfect.

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 > Jimmie

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 >Jim Crowder wrote:

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 >AOPA Says:

 >>* You can modify your aircraft (if you're the

manufacturer) to

 >>meet the definition of LSA.

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jimlc(at)att.net
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:53 am Post subject: Sport Pilot

At 09:44 AM 3/9/2006, you wrote:

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		  I think that an inflight adjustable prop is ok, keep the switch in the

engine compartment.  Clint


	


I thought the same thing, but I think I will change it, lower my 

actual aircraft empty weight, and use that and the resulting lower 

performance as my excuse as manufacturer for lowering my gross weight 

to 1320 lbs.



Jim Crowder

roncarolnikko(at)hotmail.
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:28 am Post subject: Sport Pilot

Agreed!  I registered N117AF ELSA and regret it.  Even though I am a PPL I 

can never fly it at night, over town, or for aerobatics, etc...     Ron NB 

Ore

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		  From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean(at)cableone.net>

Reply-To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

To: <kitfox-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: RE: Sport Pilot

Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 09:42:31 -0700






This can be a heated discussion as I have had my fare share of discussion

about this...



Lets make sure that we do not confuse:



Sport Pilot is the persons license and has nothing to do with aircraft.

Other then you can fly one.



Light Sport Aircraft (LSA) is the Aircrafts license (Certificate Category)

	Under this category is:	LSA

				ELSA

				SLSA



If you are building an aircraft that qualifies as AB I would not recommend

registering in any of the above categories. Keep it in the Experimental AB

category. As long as it meets the definition of what a Sport Pilot can fly

then it can be flown by a Sport Pilot or above.



As for the Gross weight... If you are flying a Model IV or earlier model

then it's not an issue... If you are flying a Model 5 or newer that has 

been

registered at a higher then 1320 Gross then it's up for discussion..

Personally... I feel it can be done and without too much headache. A little

hoop jumping maybe... and this is where it gets heated..

Fly Safe !!

John McBean

www.sportplanellc.com

"The Sky is not the Limit...  It's a Playground"

georgewells(at)adelphia.n
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:05 am Post subject: Sport Pilot

According to my FSDO -- You can put any gross wgt you want on an experimental aircraft (not a certifed plane)

 My mod 5 has a 1550 Gross and all I have to do is put a new plate on it listing a 1320 gross.

But like the FSDO said don't exceed the 1320 then because you will be illegal.

jimmieblackwell(at)sbcglo
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:07 am Post subject: Sport Pilot

I do not want to beat this horse to much, but I went down that road and the bottom line is that a Kitfox that has or had an in-flight adjustable prop can never be legally flown by someone operating under sport pilot rules.  I don't like the rule either.

   

   Before you move the switch suggest you talk to Joe Norris at EAA.

   

  Jimmie



Jim Crowder <jimlc(at)att.net> wrote:

  



At 09:44 AM 3/9/2006, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  I think that an inflight adjustable prop is ok, keep the switch in the

engine compartment. Clint


	


I thought the same thing, but I think I will change it, lower my 

actual aircraft empty weight, and use that and the resulting lower 

performance as my excuse as manufacturer for lowering my gross weight 

to 1320 lbs.



Jim Crowder

jdmcbean(at)cableone.net
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:16 am Post subject: Sport Pilot

Loose the term in-flight adjustable... electric adjustable.



Fly Safe !!

John McBean

www.sportplanellc.com

"The Sky is not the Limit...  It's a Playground"



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jimlc(at)att.net
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:09 am Post subject: Sport Pilot

At 11:13 AM 3/9/2006, you wrote:

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		  Loose the term in-flight adjustable... electric adjustable.



Fly Safe !!

John McBean


	


What are the ramifications of this?



Jim Crowder

FLIER(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:11 am Post subject: Sport Pilot

Jimmie,



IMHO that's not correct.  An experimental AB aircraft 

with an approved airworthy fixed pitch or ground 

adjustable can be flown by a Sport Pilot regardless 

of its history.



The aircraft cannot become registered as an LSA but a 

Sport Pilot can fly it.

--- Original Message ---

From: Jimmie Blackwell <jimmieblackwell(at)sbcglobal.net>

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Sport Pilot



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I do not want to beat this horse to much, but I went 

down that road and the bottom line is that a Kitfox 
	


that has or had an in-flight adjustable prop can 

never be legally flown by someone operating under 

sport pilot rules.  I don't like the rule either.

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   Before you move the switch suggest you talk to 

Joe Norris at EAA.
	


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  Jimmie



Jim Crowder <jimlc(at)att.net> wrote:

  



At 09:44 AM 3/9/2006, you wrote:

>I think that an inflight adjustable prop is ok, 

keep the switch in the
	


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		  >engine compartment. Clint



I thought the same thing, but I think I will change 

it, lower my 
	


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		  actual aircraft empty weight, and use that and the 

resulting lower 
	


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		  performance as my excuse as manufacturer for 

lowering my gross weight 
	


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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:25 am Post subject: Sport Pilot

This is valid before the aircraft is certified.  Once

certified, there is no reverse, i.e., if if was

certified at 1550 Gross, it can't be changed.



Jose 



--- "George Wells(at)adelphia.net"

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 According to my FSDO -- You can put any gross wgt

 you want on an experimental aircraft (not a certifed

 plane)

  My mod 5 has a 1550 Gross and all I have to do is

 put a new plate on it listing a 1320 gross.

 But like the FSDO said don't exceed the 1320 then

 because you will be illegal.

 

 

 



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Kitfox II/582->Jabiru 2200

"A slow flight in the Caribbean..."

hank(at)hankseidel.com
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:38 am Post subject: Sport Pilot

Aren't there STC kits for the installation of larger engines in  

production aircraft that allow for an increase in GW. Isn't that  

possible with a homebuilt?



On Mar 9, 2006, at 1:24 PM, Jose M. Toro wrote:



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 This is valid before the aircraft is certified.  Once

 certified, there is no reverse, i.e., if if was

 certified at 1550 Gross, it can't be changed.



 Jose



 --- "George Wells(at)adelphia.net"

 <georgewells(at)adelphia.net> wrote:



> 

> Wells(at)adelphia.net" <georgewells(at)adelphia.net>

>

> According to my FSDO -- You can put any gross wgt

> you want on an experimental aircraft (not a certifed

> plane)

>  My mod 5 has a 1550 Gross and all I have to do is

> put a new plate on it listing a 1320 gross.

> But like the FSDO said don't exceed the 1320 then

> because you will be illegal.

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 "A slow flight in the Caribbean..."

jimmieblackwell(at)sbcglo
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:04 pm Post subject: Sport Pilot

I respect your opinion. I do ask that you please understand that I thoroughly researched this subject months ago.  My biggest concern is that someone will be misled into thinking that they can take an in-flight adjustable prop off a kitfox and replace it with a ground adjustable and make it a legal machine to be flown by someone operating under sport pilot rules.  Remember, when an aircraft is certified, the certification record shows the type prop and this is a matter of record with the FAA.  

  Please do not take my word for this.  Call EAA and ask.  

  I will not comment any further on this subject on the list.  If anyone wishes to discuss my research on this matter please call me at 512 258-7020.  Would be happy to hear from you.

  Jimmie

Jimmie,

IMHO that's not correct. An experimental AB aircraft 

with an approved airworthy fixed pitch or ground 

adjustable can be flown by a Sport Pilot regardless 

of its history.

The aircraft cannot become registered as an LSA but a 

Sport Pilot can fly it.

--- Original Message ---

From: Jimmie Blackwell 

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Sport Pilot

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 	  Quote: 	

I do not want to beat this horse to much, but I went 

down that road and the bottom line is that a Kitfox 

that has or had an in-flight adjustable prop can 

never be legally flown by someone operating under 

sport pilot rules. I don't like the rule either.

 	  Quote: 	

 Before you move the switch suggest you talk to 

Joe Norris at EAA.

 	  Quote: 	

 Jimmie

Jim Crowder wrote:

At 09:44 AM 3/9/2006, you wrote:

>I think that an inflight adjustable prop is ok, 

keep the switch in the

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		  >engine compartment. Clint

I thought the same thing, but I think I will change 

it, lower my 

 	  Quote: 	
		  actual aircraft empty weight, and use that and the 

resulting lower 

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		  performance as my excuse as manufacturer for 

lowering my gross weight 

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		  to 1320 lbs.

Jim Crowder

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alnanarthur(at)sbcglobal.
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:10 pm Post subject: Sport Pilot

Hi again  Jim,



If , when you applied for your original Special Airworthiness  

Certificate (Experimental) you stated that you had an in-flight  

adjustable propeller and/or a gross weight greater than 1320#,   "  

you're screwed".



You referenced the AOPA web site info which I  copied and pasted here:



  Can I change the weight of an experimental amateur-built that I  

have built so it meets the 1,320-pound limit for light sport aircraft?

As the builder of a home-built airplane that has yet to receive its  

experimental airworthiness certificate, you may decrease or increase  

the weight as necessary to have the airplane meet the definition of  

light sport aircraft, which is defined as having a maximum gross  

weight of 1,320 pounds. However, once a weight limit has been set as  

part of the airplane's experimental amateur-built certification  

process, the original builder, future owners, and repairmen are  

prohibited from making any modifications to the weight for the  

purpose of meeting the definition of light sport aircraft.



Updated Wednesday, February 08, 2006 10:47:15 AM



On Mar 9, 2006, at 8:05 AM, Jim Crowder wrote:



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 At 08:27 AM 3/9/2006, you wrote:

> Jim,

>

> You might  talk  to your local Flight Standards Office about de-

> registering the aircraft and using it for parts to build a completely

> different experimental aircraft.



 This was my previous plan.  It now appears unnecessary.



 Jim Crowder

dan(at)azshowersolutions.
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:31 pm Post subject: Sport Pilot

Geeze,  I just got home and checked the e-mails.You guys not only beat the dead horse...you turned it into hamburger! ha

  Good discussion though. Just to clarify, I wasn't really looking to register as anything other than experimental. I simply asked  the question (about LSA) out of curiosity and got the no way Hosea answer. Funny though, (and this was brought up earlier), the plane IS still a kit and has never been issued an airworthyness cert. so, if I were nutz and wanted to pursue the red tape monster a little more...I suppose I could press the issue. Not a chance though because I do have an adjustable prop I will be installing in front of the 912s.

  Cheers,

  Dan

  www.azshowersolutions.com/Kitfox1.html

alnanarthur <alnanarthur(at)sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Hi again Jim,

If , when you applied for your original Special Airworthiness 

Certificate (Experimental) you stated that you had an in-flight 

adjustable propeller and/or a gross weight greater than 1320#, " 

you're screwed".

You referenced the AOPA web site info which I copied and pasted here:

Can I change the weight of an experimental amateur-built that I 

have built so it meets the 1,320-pound limit for light sport aircraft?

As the builder of a home-built airplane that has yet to receive its 

experimental airworthiness certificate, you may decrease or increase 

the weight as necessary to have the airplane meet the definition of 

light sport aircraft, which is defined as having a maximum gross 

weight of 1,320 pounds. However, once a weight limit has been set as 

part of the airplane's experimental amateur-built certification 

process, the original builder, future owners, and repairmen are 

prohibited from making any modifications to the weight for the 

purpose of meeting the definition of light sport aircraft.

Updated Wednesday, February 08, 2006 10:47:15 AM

On Mar 9, 2006, at 8:05 AM, Jim Crowder wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 At 08:27 AM 3/9/2006, you wrote:

> Jim,

>

> You might talk to your local Flight Standards Office about de-

> registering the aircraft and using it for parts to build a completely

> different experimental aircraft.

 This was my previous plan. It now appears unnecessary.

 Jim Crowder

Malcolmbru(at)AOL.COM
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:42 pm Post subject: Sport Pilot

Dan unless you are very confident your medical condition will out live this  

airplane I would lean toward qualifying  for sport pilot. It may be  worth 

more money being a little heaver with more options but you may need to  sell it 

if you loose your medical.  mal

jimlc(at)att.net
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:11 am Post subject: Sport Pilot

At 04:10 PM 3/9/2006, you wrote:

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		  You referenced the AOPA web site info which I  copied and pasted here:



   Can I change the weight of an experimental amateur-built that I

have built so it meets the 1,320-pound limit for light sport aircraft?

As the builder of a home-built airplane that has yet to receive its

experimental airworthiness certificate, you may decrease or increase

the weight as necessary to have the airplane meet the definition of

light sport aircraft, which is defined as having a maximum gross

weight of 1,320 pounds. However, once a weight limit has been set as

part of the airplane's experimental amateur-built certification

process, the original builder, future owners, and repairmen are

prohibited from making any modifications to the weight for the

purpose of meeting the definition of light sport aircraft.


	


You are correct.  In plain English, this paragraph is in direct 

conflict with the one I quoted, but I did find this one later on.  I 

will now see if I can perhaps surrender my current airworthiness 

certificate, keep the fuselage, replace the total power system, and 

create a lighter plane with a gross weight of 1320 lbs. and otherwise 

meet the requirements.



Jim Crowder

dan(at)azshowersolutions.
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:51 am Post subject: Sport Pilot

Mal, That is an interesting thought. I'm sure many of us don't anticipate loosing our medical any time soon, yet, life can blindside us sometimes. Let me throw this out to see if I am correct in my understanding...

  If I loose my medical I'm grounded permanently. There is no way I could jump over to Sport PIlot.

  If I get the Sport Pilot ticket now and loose my medical in the future, I can still fly a plane that the Sport Pilot rules allow.  Is that the correct scoop?

  Thanks, Dan

  www.azshowersolutions.com/Kitfox1.html



Malcolmbru(at)aol.com wrote:

  



Dan unless you are very confident your medical condition will out live this 

airplane I would lean toward qualifying for sport pilot. It may be worth 

more money being a little heaver with more options but you may need to sell it 

if you loose your medical. mal

aldaniels(at)fmtc.com
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:05 am Post subject: Sport Pilot

You can usually get your medical back, but it can be a pain and very 

expensive to keep up.( I just talked to a pilot that pays $3000 per year 

for test because he put on his medical form that he thought he might 

have had a Kidney stone. The FAA requires him to take these test every 

12 months, and it has been going on for several years.)  You would 

usually know if you are not going to pass a medical, and as long as you 

did not fail one you are OK SP. If you fail a medical you need to get a 

waver on the condition and get a valid medical, and then never take 

another medical. Example. If you start cancer treatment but still have a 

valid medical, just don't go for another medical and you are OK to fly, 

provided you feel you  are safe to fly. This is really unfair as you 

might have failed a medical in the past for something you can not get a 

waver for, and so can never fly, but someone with exactly the same 

condition, but maybe in much worse health that has never had a medical 

is legal to fly. You just have to love what we pay these people to do 

for us.



Dan Billingsley wrote:



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Mal, That is an interesting thought. I'm sure many of us don't anticipate loosing our medical any time soon, yet, life can blindside us sometimes. Let me throw this out to see if I am correct in my understanding...

  If I loose my medical I'm grounded permanently. There is no way I could jump over to Sport PIlot.

  If I get the Sport Pilot ticket now and loose my medical in the future, I can still fly a plane that the Sport Pilot rules allow.  Is that the correct scoop?

  Thanks, Dan

  www.azshowersolutions.com/Kitfox1.html



Malcolmbru(at)aol.com wrote:

  



Dan unless you are very confident your medical condition will out live this 

airplane I would lean toward qualifying for sport pilot. It may be worth 

more money being a little heaver with more options but you may need to sell it 

if you loose your medical. mal

jdmcbean(at)cableone.net
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:41 am Post subject: Sport Pilot

Dan,

	If you are a licensed Private Pilot and let your medical expire. Not

revoked, suspended or denied.  Then you can operate a LSA aircraft as a

Sport Pilot.  Of course there are training requirements but in your case you

have the time in type.  If you go in to renew your medical and it is denied

then you are grounded.  You would have to get your Medical back or get a

Special Issuance Medical before you could fly again.. then let the medical

expire.  There still is the FAR that one must self certify that they are

physically and mentally competent to complete the flight. (catch 22)



Fly Safe !!

John & Debra McBean

www.sportplanellc.com

"The Sky is not the Limit...  It's a Playground"



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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:06 am Post subject: Sport Pilot

Jim, you may be in for disappointment.  The quote below is from the AOPA answer to the question. 



 "As the builder of a home-built airplane that has yet to receive its experimental airworthiness certificate, you may decrease or increase

 	  Quote: 	
		  the weight as necessary to have the airplane meet the definition of

light sport aircraft, which is defined as having a maximum gross

weight of 1,320 pounds. 


	


Now for the hammer.....



However, once a weight limit has been set as

 	  Quote: 	
		  part of the airplane's experimental amateur-built certification

process, the original builder, future owners, and repairmen are

prohibited from making any modifications to the weight for the

purpose of meeting the definition of light sport aircraft.


	


does not sound promising.



John Kerr

-------------- Original message -------------- 

From: Jim Crowder <jimlc(at)att.net> 



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 At 04:10 PM 3/9/2006, you wrote: 

 >You referenced the AOPA web site info which I copied and pasted here: 

 > 

 > Can I change the weight of an experimental amateur-built that I 

 >have built so it meets the 1,320-pound limit for light sport aircraft? 

 >As the builder of a home-built airplane that has yet to receive its 

 >experimental airworthiness certificate, you may decrease or increase 

 >the weight as necessary to have the airplane meet the definition of 

 >light sport aircraft, which is defined as having a maximum gross 

 >weight of 1,320 pounds. However, once a weight limit has been set as 

 >part of the airplane's experimental amateur-built certification 

 >process, the original builder, future owners, and repairmen are 

 >prohibited from making any modifications to the weight for the 

 >purpose of meeting the definition of light sport aircraft. 

 

 You are correct. In plain English, this paragraph is in direct 

 conflict with the one I quoted, but I did find this one later on. I 

 will now see if I can perhaps surrender my current airworthiness 

 certificate, keep the fuselage, replace the total power system, and 

 create a lighter plane with a gross weight of 1320 lbs. and otherwise 

 meet the requirements. 

 

 Jim Crowder 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


	


Jim, you may be in for disappointment. The quote below is from the AOPA answer to the question.



"As the builder of a home-built airplane that has yet to receive its experimental airworthiness certificate, you may decrease or increase

the weight as necessary to have the airplane meet the definition of

light sport aircraft, which is defined as having a maximum gross

weight of 1,320 pounds. 



Now for the hammer.....



However, once a weight limit has been set as

part of the airplane's experimental amateur-built certification

process, the original builder, future owners, and repairmen are

prohibited from making any modifications to the weight for the

purpose of meeting the definition of light sport aircraft.



does not sound promising.



John Kerr

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From: Jim Crowder jimlc(at)att.net 



 -- Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crowder <JIMLC(at)ATT.NET>

 

 At 04:10 PM 3/9/2006, you wrote: 

 You referenced the AOPA web site info which I copied and pasted here: 

  

  Can I change the weight of an experimental amateur-built that I 

 have built so it meets the 1,320-pound limit for light sport aircraft? 

 As the builder of a home-built airplane that has yet to receive its 

 experimental airworthiness certificate, you may decrease or increase 

 the weight as necessary to have the airplane meet the definition of 

 light sport aircraft, which is defined as having a maximum gross 

 weight of 1,320 pounds. However, once a weight limit has been set as 

 part o

 f the airplane's experimental amateur-built certification 

 process, the original builder, future owners, and repairmen are 

 prohibited from making any modifications to the weight for the 

 purpose of meeting the definition of light sport aircraft. 

 

 You are correct. In plain English, this paragraph is in direct 

 conflict with the one I quoted, but I did find this one later on. I 

 will now see if I can perhaps surrender my current airworthiness 

 certificate, keep the fuselage, replace the total power system, and 

 create a lighter plane with a gross weight of 1320 lbs. and otherwise 

 meet the requirements. 

 

 Jim Crowder 

 

 

 

 

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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:13 am Post subject: Sport Pilot

Jim,



I guess that I would first ask the local FAA folks some hypothetical  

questions concerning assembling an experimental

aircraft from cannibalized  parts from a de-registered  aircraft.   

And what a hypothetical person would need to do to register

said aircraft.  How to prove 51% and  so forth.   I would also get an  

new N number to start a completely new  history for the new airplane.



My Kitfox 5 is certified with a gross weight of 1232# since I  

finished building prior to the final rule.



Allan & Nancy Arthur

Kitfox 5, N40AA

Rotax 912s, Warpdrive 3 blade

Byron Airport (C83)  Hanger C8



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  I will now see if I can perhaps surrender my current airworthiness

 certificate, keep the fuselage, replace the total power system, and

 create a lighter plane with a gross weight of 1320 lbs. and otherwise

 meet the requirements.



 Jim Crowder

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