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Kelly McMullen

Joined: 16 Apr 2008
Posts: 1188
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:58 am Post subject: Kits

I note that on Tim's site for what is in the various kits, there are

listings for a firewall forward kit, separate from finishing kit.

However, Vans only lists empennage, fuselage, wing and finishing kits.

Has Vans changed how they package things? Or is that just a convenient

division of parts in the finishing kit?

Kelly

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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:17 am Post subject: Kits

The firewall forward kit is listed in the web store separately. Here's a link: http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1233850394-2-318&browse=engines&product=FF_Kit

  

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 --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com>

 

 I note that on Tim's site for what is in the various kits C there are

 listings for a firewall forward kit C separate from finishing kit.

 However C Vans only lists empennage C fuselage C wing and finishing kits.

 Has Vans changed how they package things? Or is that just a convenient

 division of parts in the finishing kit?

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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:11 pm Post subject: Kits

The firewall kit is highly dependent on which engine you get.  There are too

many options, so quite a few folks roll their own.  Vans does sell a

firewall kit for the 540 models they sell.   It's in their catalog.   You

can use those as a starting point if you get an engine from another source.



There is no overlap with the finishing kit.   You can see the details here:

http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1233864459-434-198&bro

wse=engines&product=FF_Kit  The following is off the web store.



The RV-10 Firewall Forward Kits below can be ordered with or without a three

lever throttle/prop/mixture quadrant part number "CT10-3". If you opt for

the NON three lever quadrant, your engine control cables will be supplied as

vernier style.

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		  From December 2007, FWF kits DO NOT contain the wiring harness.

EXAMPLE KIT FOR AN RV-7A, O-360, WITH A CONSTANT-SPEED PROPELLER:
	




1 VA-138    FUEL SUPPLY HOSE 14.0"

1 VA-139    FUEL SUPPLY HOSE 16.5"

1 CT BLUE VPROP 48    7(ALL)/9(ALL)

1 CT BLK THROTTLE 44    6(ALL)/7(360)/9(320)

1 CT RED VMIXTURE 45    7(360)/9(320)

1 FAB-360/540    FLTRD A/BOX-360 FI320

1 BAF-360    COWL BAFFLE KIT 6/7/8

1 VA-149-360-PC KIT    THROTTLE/MIXTURE BRACKET

1 VA-153-PC    McCauley or MT governor cable bracket

1 PROP GOV MT P-860-4   (I)O-320/360 LYCOMING

1 AT0-028X3/16X6    ALUMINUM TUBE SOFT

1 AT6-058X5/16X15 7/8    ALUMINUM TUBE HARD

1 SS304-26GAX1/2X9    STAINLESS CLAMP MATERIAL

1 FF 3/4 FIREWALL PL    SS FIREWALL PLUG

1 ES PC680 INSTALL KIT    BATTERY MOUNT 7/9

1 AS3-063X1X12    ALUMINUM STRIP

1 EA LV-1 HEAT SHIELD    EXHAUST HEAT SHIELD

2 CT A-740 BLACK    PUSH PULL CABLE BLACK

1 DUCT CBT-5/8    COOLING BLAST TUBE

1 EA CV HOSE 9816    BREATHER HOSE 4 CYL

1 EA DYNA BOLT     BOLT SET 4 CYL DYNAFOCAL

4 EA DYNA VI-STD    VIB.ISO. ALL EXCEPT-10

1 EA EXH W/MUFF 320/360    EXHAUST SYSTEM

1 EA OIL COOLER II    O-320/360 OIL COOLER

1 ES 24021    STARTER SOLENOID RELAY

1 ES 24115    MASTER SOLENOID RELAY

1 ES ALTERNATOR DELUXE    60A KIT W/OV PROTECT

1 FF-705    OIL BREATHER TUBE

1 FF-709    OIL COOLER DOUBLER

1 VA-161    GASCOLATOR DOUBLER

1 IE VMP INSTALL KIT    MANIFOLD PRESSURE FITTINGS

1 GAS-5    GASCOLATOR

1 PT-035X1/4X12    FUEL OVERFLOW TUBE

1 VA-102    FUEL PRES. HOSE 15.5

1 VA-168    FIREWALL SENDER MOUNT

1 VA-133    OIL PRESS. HOSE 27.25

1 VA-134    OIL COOLER HOSE 19.0

1 VA-135    OIL COOLER HOSE 16.5

1 VENT DL-03    2" ALUMINUM DUCT FLANGE

1 VENT SCAT 2X6'    RED SCAT TUBE 2"X 6'

1 VENT TG-10    CABIN HEAT SELECTOR

1 DOC FWF COMPLETE    TEXT/DRAWINGS

1 CT BEARING HWR, CARB    BOLT, NUT, WASHERS

1 CT BEARING HWR, PROP    BOLT, NUT, WASHERS

1 BAG 604-1    FF MISC. HDWRE

1 BAG 607    FF MISC. HDWRE

1 BAG 608    FF MISC. HDWRE

1 BAG 611    FF MISC. HDWRE

1 BAG 613-1    FF MISC. HARDWARE

1 BAG 958    AN426AD3-4

1 BAG 991    AN426AD3-3.5

1 BAG 1907    AN426AD4-7

1 BAG 1916    AN426AD3-4.5

1 BAG 1934    AN426AD3-5

1 BAG 1935    AN426AD3-6

1 BAG 312    AN426AD4-6

1 BAG 1978    AN470AD4-5

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Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1706
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:34 pm Post subject: Kits

Thanks for the replies. Appreciate all that. I think it is a bit disingenuous of Vans to not list it in the kit prices <http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/kitprice.htm>, and in the price estimator to show $3400-4800 when the current price is $6000. Oh well, won't be the first chunk overlooked in budget. I don't see a whole lot changing in that kit if you stick with a 540 series engine, regardless of source, which is perhaps 98% of all RV-10s? Obviously we can choose to roll own, with the time issues to research, price, order, etc.

 Kelly

 

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The firewall kit is highly dependent on which engine you get.  There are too

many options, so quite a few folks roll their own.  Vans does sell a

firewall kit for the 540 models they sell.   It's in their catalog.   You

can use those as a starting point if you get an engine from another source.



There is no overlap with the finishing kit.   You can see the details here:

http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1233864459-434-198&bro

wse=engines&product=FF_Kit  The following is off the web store.



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Joined: 25 Oct 2007
Posts: 559
Location: Appleton, WI USA

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 5:59 am Post subject: Kits

There are definitely cheaper and better options for some of the items for the FWF kit.  For instance I believe both Bonaco and Aircrafthose.com have kits to replace the Van’s hoses for less money and with integral fire sleeve.  I know I went through and deleted probably about half the items in the FWF.  

   

Michael  

       

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Thanks for the replies. Appreciate all that. I think it is a bit disingenuous of Vans to not list it in the kit prices <http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/kitprice.htm>, and in the price estimator to show $3400-4800 when the current price is $6000. Oh well, won't be the first chunk overlooked in budget. I don't see a whole lot changing in that kit if you stick with a 540 series engine, regardless of source, which is perhaps 98% of all RV-10s? Obviously we can choose to roll own, with the time issues to research, price, order, etc.

 Kelly

 

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		  --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Leffler" <rv(at)thelefflers.com> The firewall kit is highly dependent on which engine you get.  There are toomany options, so quite a few folks roll their own.  Vans does sell afirewall kit for the 540 models they sell.   It's in their catalog.   Youcan use those as a starting point if you get an engine from another source. There is no overlap with the finishing kit.   You can see the details here:http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1233864459-434-198&browse=engines&product=FF_Kit  The following is off the web store. 	
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