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hcourier(at)cox.net
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:40 pm Post subject: Commander 680 FLP

Hello Commander website folks,

  

 The plane I fly is going through it's annual inspection and some corrosion  has been found on the left engine, left side motor mount.  The maintenance  folks say it's bad enough that the mount must be replaced.  

  

 Sooooooo.....we're looking for a motor mount.  I don't know the  details, part nos, etc.  If you have knowledge of where such an animal can  be found or think you might have one, please call Brent Cowart, our maintenance  guy at 256-845-9129.  He's the owner of Valley Aviation in Ft. Payne, AL  and knows part nos and details about the engine mount.  

  

 You can also email me or call with any information if that's easier.

  

 A note to any Aero Commander 680FLP owners, MR RPM conversion.  I  recently lost all hydraulics when a small hyd line in the left engine wheel well  broke.  It broke at the flange where the line was secured by the nut to the  connector.  I can't describe the part other than it was normal  aluminium tubing, not very long, about 4-5" with a compount curve and was in  front of the accumulator in the aft area of the left wheel well.   We lost all hydraulic fluid, gear, flaps, brakes and steering.   Landed at Birmingham, AL....there's a long runway there.  Coasted into  the grass between the taxiway and ramp otherwise couldn't stop.  No damage  to plane or pax.  The boss was on board, but he's a cool guy.

  

 You might want to check for cracked hydraulic lines if you have a  680FLP.  Call me if you want more details.    

  

  

  

 Ray Mansfield

 850-217-5185

 N91ES

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rsrandazzo(at)precisionma
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:19 pm Post subject: Commander 680 FLP

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Ray-  

Can you send a photo of the offending segment?  That would help some of us with similar systems to identify and learn…  

Robert S. Randazzo  

N414C  

       

From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Mansfield

 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 5:40 PM

 To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Commander 680 FLP  

  

  

     

Hello Commander website folks,  

    

   

    

The plane I fly is going through it's annual inspection and some corrosion has been found on the left engine, left side motor mount.  The maintenance folks say it's bad enough that the mount must be replaced.    

    

   

    

Sooooooo.....we're looking for a motor mount.  I don't know the details, part nos, etc.  If you have knowledge of where such an animal can be found or think you might have one, please call Brent Cowart, our maintenance guy at 256-845-9129.  He's the owner of Valley Aviation in Ft. Payne, AL and knows part nos and details about the engine mount.    

    

   

    

You can also email me or call with any information if that's easier.  

    

   

    

A note to any Aero Commander 680FLP owners, MR RPM conversion.  I recently lost all hydraulics when a small hyd line in the left engine wheel well broke.  It broke at the flange where the line was secured by the nut to the connector.  I can't describe the part other than it was normal aluminium tubing, not very long, about 4-5" with a compount curve and was in front of the accumulator in the aft area of the left wheel well.  We lost all hydraulic fluid, gear, flaps, brakes and steering.  Landed at Birmingham, AL....there's a long runway there.  Coasted into the grass between the taxiway and ramp otherwise couldn't stop.  No damage to plane or pax.  The boss was on board, but he's a cool guy.  

    

   

    

You might want to check for cracked hydraulic lines if you have a 680FLP.  Call me if you want more details.      

    

   

    

   

    

   

    

Ray Mansfield  

    

850-217-5185  

    

N91ES

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hcourier(at)cox.net
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:42 am Post subject: Commander 680 FLP

Hi Robert, 

  

 Unfortunately I don't have a photo of the  offending hyd line.  Didn't think to take a px when it was off the  plane.  The plane is in Ft. Payne, AL now and I'm in Destin, FL so can't  get a px at the moment.  Besides, it's real hard to see the line where it's  located.  It's just forward of the accumulator in the left wheel  well.  One end is attached to what I believe to be the pressure switch for  the aux hyd pump, and that's where it broke.

  

 Ray M. 

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tfisher(at)commandergroup
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:09 am Post subject: Commander 680 FLP

Thank you your notice I will check the line  today.

 I too have a deteriorating engine mount and need  another, when you find a source please share that with us.

  

 Tom

 C-GISS

 680FLP (Mr.RPM)

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hcourier(at)cox.net
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:40 am Post subject: Commander 680 FLP

Thanks Tom.  Will  let you know if I find a source.

  

 RM

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kamala(at)MSN.COM
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:42 am Post subject: Commander 680 FLP

lost a line in west texas.  in an emergency a John Deere tractor line will get you home. gmc

  From: hcourier(at)cox.net

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Commander-List: Commander 680 FLP 

Date: Tue C 7 Jul 2009 19:39:48 -0500

  .ExternalClass {font-size:10pt;margin-left:10px;color:#0033cc;font-family:Arial C Helvetica;}   Hello Commander website folks C

 The plane I fly is going through it's annual inspection and some corrosion has been found on the left engine C left side motor mount.  The maintenance folks say it's bad enough that the mount must be replaced.  

 Sooooooo.....we're looking for a motor mount.  I don't know the details C part nos C etc.  If you have knowledge of where such an animal can be found or think you might have one C please call Brent Cowart C our maintenance guy at 256-845-9129.  He's the owner of Valley Aviation in Ft. Payne C AL and knows part nos and details about the engine mount.  

 You can also email me or call with any information if that's easier.

 A note to any Aero Commander 680FLP owners C MR RPM conversion.  I recently lost all hydraulics when a small hyd line in the left engine wheel well broke.  It broke at the flange where the line was secured by the nut to the connector.  I can't describe the part other than it was normal aluminium tubing C not very long C about 4-5" with a compount curve and was in front of the accumulator in the aft area of the left wheel well.  We lost all hydraulic fluid C gear C flaps C brakes and steering.  Landed at Birmingham C AL....there's a long runway there.  Coasted into the grass between the taxiway and ramp otherwise couldn't stop.  No damage to plane or pax.  The boss was on board C but he's a cool guy.

 You might want to check for cracked hydraulic lines if you have a 680FLP.  Call me if you want more details.    

 Ray Mansfield

 850-217-5185

 N91ES

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tylor.hall(at)sbcglobal.n
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:14 am Post subject: Commander 680 FLP

What happened to MRRPMPerformance.com???Their web site is down.  The name seems to be available.

Didn't they hold the Mr RPM STC's?

Tylor Hall



On Jul 8, 2009, at 7:15 AM, MASON CHEVAILLIER wrote:

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		  lost a line in west texas.  in an emergency a John Deere tractor line will get you home. gmc

 

From: hcourier(at)cox.net (hcourier(at)cox.net)

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)

Subject: Commander 680 FLP 

Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 19:39:48 -0500



Hello Commander website folks,

 

The plane I fly is going through it's annual inspection and some corrosion has been found on the left engine, left side motor mount.  The maintenance folks say it's bad enough that the mount must be replaced. 

 

Sooooooo.....we're looking for a motor mount.  I don't know the details, part nos, etc.  If you have knowledge of where such an animal can be found or think you might have one, please call Brent Cowart, our maintenance guy at 256-845-9129.  He's the owner of Valley Aviation in Ft. Payne, AL and knows part nos and details about the engine mount. 

 

You can also email me or call with any information if that's easier.

 

A note to any Aero Commander 680FLP owners, MR RPM conversion.  I recently lost all hydraulics when a small hyd line in the left engine wheel well broke.  It broke at the flange where the line was secured by the nut to the connector.  I can't describe the part other than it was normal aluminium tubing, not very long, about 4-5" with a compount curve and was in front of the accumulator in the aft area of the left wheel well.  We lost all hydraulic fluid, gear, flaps, brakes and steering.  Landed at Birmingham, AL....there's a long runway there.  Coasted into the grass between the taxiway and ramp otherwise couldn't stop.  No damage to plane or pax.  The boss was on board, but he's a cool guy.

 

You might want to check for cracked hydraulic lines if you have a 680FLP.  Call me if you want more details.    

 

 

 

Ray Mansfield

850-217-5185

N91ES

 

 

 



	


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BobsV35B(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:07 am Post subject: Commander 680 FLP

Good Morning All,

  

 Just a comment on hydraulic lines in general.

  

 It was just a few months after the DC-10 was introduced to service when one  took off out of MIA and experienced a hydraulic system failure. The captain  declared his emergency and returned to MIA as expeditiously as possible. When he  landed two of the systems were totally inoperative and the third was almost out  of fluid. Another couple of minutes and the airplane would have been  uncontrollable.

  

 It seems that all three of the hydraulic systems were mounted with slightly  flexible mounts to the aircraft structure, but all of the hydraulic lines were  solid tubing.  

 The primary unit failed. 

  

 The secondary took over as it should but the additional strain failed one  of it's supply tubes as well. 

  

 The third system was supplying control, but a crack developed in it's  tubing and fluid was being lost. I may have some of  the details all wrong,  but the fix was to replace all of the connecting tubing with flexible lines in  lieu of the fixed tubing. 

  

 It was a fleet wide mandatory immediate action AD.

  

 If the short tubing in the Aero Commander could possibly be replaced with a  hunk of high quality flexible tubing, it is certainly something I would consider  doing!

  

 Happy Skies,

  

 Old Bob

  

  

  

  In a message dated 7/8/2009 8:42:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  kamala(at)MSN.COM writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		  lost a    line in west texas.  in an emergency a John Deere tractor line will    get you home. gmc

 

      From: hcourier(at)cox.net

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject:    Commander 680 FLP 

Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 19:39:48    -0500



    .ExternalClass {font-size:10pt;margin-left:10px;color:#0033cc;font-family:Arial, Helvetica;}     Hello Commander website folks,

    

   The plane I fly is going through it's annual inspection and some    corrosion has been found on the left engine, left side motor mount.  The    maintenance folks say it's bad enough that the mount must be replaced.     

    

   Sooooooo.....we're looking for a motor mount.  I don't know the    details, part nos, etc.  If you have knowledge of where such an animal    can be found or think you might have one, please call Brent Cowart, our    maintenance guy at 256-845-9129.  He's the owner of Valley Aviation in    Ft. Payne, AL and knows part nos and details about the engine mount.     

    

   You can also email me or call with any information if that's  easier.

    

   A note to any Aero Commander 680FLP owners, MR RPM conversion.  I    recently lost all hydraulics when a small hyd line in the left engine wheel    well broke.  It broke at the flange where the line was secured by the nut    to the connector.  I can't describe the part other than it    was normal aluminium tubing, not very long, about 4-5" with a compount    curve and was in front of the accumulator in the aft area of the    left wheel well.  We lost all hydraulic fluid, gear, flaps, brakes    and steering.  Landed at Birmingham, AL....there's a long runway    there.  Coasted into the grass between the taxiway and ramp    otherwise couldn't stop.  No damage to plane or pax.  The boss was    on board, but he's a cool guy.

    

   You might want to check for cracked hydraulic lines if you have a    680FLP.  Call me if you want more details.    

    

    

    

   Ray Mansfield

   850-217-5185

   N91ES

    

    

 

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blorber(at)southwestcirru
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:41 am Post subject: Commander 680 FLP

Yoda replaced that line on 400CH with flexible line for the exact same reason.  It wasn't leaking, but the pressure regulator was.  When we took out the regulator so that he could cut new gaskets for it, we discovered that the flare was cut through about 40% of the way around.

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hcourier(at)cox.net
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:07 am Post subject: Commander 680 FLP

Did the part have a yellow tag or a GREEN tag?   Ha! Ha! 

---- MASON CHEVAILLIER <kamala(at)MSN.COM> wrote: 



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 lost a line in west texas.  in an emergency a John Deere tractor line will get you home. gmc

  

 


	


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		   From: hcourier(at)cox.net

 To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Commander 680 FLP 

 Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 19:39:48 -0500

 

 

 

 

 Hello Commander website folks,

  

 The plane I fly is going through it's annual inspection and some corrosion has been found on the left engine, left side motor mount.  The maintenance folks say it's bad enough that the mount must be replaced.  

  

 Sooooooo.....we're looking for a motor mount.  I don't know the details, part nos, etc.  If you have knowledge of where such an animal can be found or think you might have one, please call Brent Cowart, our maintenance guy at 256-845-9129.  He's the owner of Valley Aviation in Ft. Payne, AL and knows part nos and details about the engine mount.  

  

 You can also email me or call with any information if that's easier.

  

 A note to any Aero Commander 680FLP owners, MR RPM conversion.  I recently lost all hydraulics when a small hyd line in the left engine wheel well broke.  It broke at the flange where the line was secured by the nut to the connector.  I can't describe the part other than it was normal aluminium tubing, not very long, about 4-5" with a compount curve and was in front of the accumulator in the aft area of the left wheel well.  We lost all hydraulic fluid, gear, flaps, brakes and steering.  Landed at Birmingham, AL....there's a long runway there.  Coasted into the grass between the taxiway and ramp otherwise couldn't stop.  No damage to plane or pax.  The boss was on board, but he's a cool guy.

  

 You might want to check for cracked hydraulic lines if you have a 680FLP.  Call me if you want more details.    

  

  

  

 Ray Mansfield

 850-217-5185

 N91ES

John Vormbaum

Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Posts: 273
Location: SF Bay Area, CA

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:13 am Post subject: Commander 680 FLP

Hey....nothing runs like a Deere!



/J



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