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ronlee(at)pcisys.net
Guest

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:23 pm Post subject: Large attachments

I just had a file come through that had an attachment or embedded

 picture that was over 3 Meg in size.   With dialup that is  unacceptable.

  

 Please use smaller files/embedded picture sizes.

  

 Ron Lee

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JohnInReno

Joined: 08 Sep 2007
Posts: 150

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:16 pm Post subject: Large attachments

Agreed. It is always best to be careful.

 

 Ron - Can your email program skip large messages? In Thunderbird on my laptop, it fetches the first part of the text and then displays a message allowing the rest of to be downloaded or ignored.

 

 John

 

 Ron Lee wrote: [quote]            I just had a file come through that had an attachment or embedded

   picture that was over 3 Meg in size.   With dialup that is unacceptable.

    

   Please use smaller files/embedded picture sizes.

    

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John Morgensen
RV-9A - Born on July 3, 2013
RV4 - for sale

n1cxo320(at)salidaco.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:18 pm Post subject: Large attachments

I agree. I have had several in the last few days  that tied up my dialup system FOR OVER AN HOUR. The sender was advertising some  things he wanted to sell. That's fine, but how about reduceing the size (mb) to  mere kb ... the photo will still be just fine; we don't need ultra pixel  fidelity.

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
Guest

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:26 pm Post subject: Large attachments

I reduce all pics I send over the I'net to 640X480.  Aught to be a 

'standard' ..... which it is, kinda.

Linn

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John Fasching wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   I agree. I have had several in the last few days that tied up my dialup 

 system FOR OVER AN HOUR. The sender was advertising some things he 

 wanted to sell. That's fine, but how about reduceing the size (mb) to 

 mere kb ... the photo will still be just fine; we don't need ultra pixel 

 fidelity.

jsflyrv(at)verizon.net
Guest

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:05 pm Post subject: Large attachments

From who? I have not received any large files from anyone on the 

RV-list. Matt posted some pictures of his RV-8 seats.

Beautiful seats Matt, only question is where does the kitchen sink go? 

Jerry

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John Morgensen wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Agreed. It is always best to be careful.

 Ron - Can your email program skip large messages? In Thunderbird on my 

 laptop, it fetches the first part of the text and then displays a 

 message allowing the rest of to be downloaded or ignored.

 John

 Ron Lee wrote:

> I just had a file come through that had an attachment or embedded

> picture that was over 3 Meg in size.   With dialup that is unacceptable.

>  

> Please use smaller files/embedded picture sizes.

>  

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mark(at)macomb.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:54 pm Post subject: Large attachments

The silly thing is that Windows XP and Vista make it so easy to avoid 

this sort of thing. If you are viewing a picture and then right click 

and then send, the program will offer to resize the picture. I work at 

an ISP and big attachments clogging up dialup mail accounts is our most 

common help desk problem.



Mark

Ron Lee wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   I just had a file come through that had an attachment or embedded

 picture that was over 3 Meg in size.   With dialup that is unacceptable.

  

 Please use smaller files/embedded picture sizes.

  

 Ron Lee

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robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:12 pm Post subject: Large attachments

I am sure it was a post from me. I sent 3 photos totaling 1.2

(one-point-two) Mb offing to sell an RV-8 Cowl at a significant

discount. I assumed I was doing a service to some -8 builder on a budget

(not a money making venture). I could have slimmed down the images even

further but I wanted to make sure the prospective buyer was able to see

detail. Sorry it's been about 16 years since I was dial up.



Robin

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ronlee(at)pcisys.net
Guest

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:00 am Post subject: Large attachments

The sender is not important.  What happens is that my email downloads

that message and effectively ties it up until done.  I know that dialup is

antiquated but it is what I have.



I had to disconnect from the internet then go into my email via the web 

portal

and find the message and delete it.



My safety was never in jeopardy but it is a nuisance.  This is just a 

request

to make those pictures smaller for posting.  If someone needs more detail

they can ask for it.



Do not archive



Ron Lee

AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:47 am Post subject: Large attachments

Robin, I looked back on my incoming and surmised it was Matt's leather

seats post but you could be right.



The issue is and will remain the desire of a few to hobble the use by

the many of 21 century technology because they choose to remain strapped

with late 20th century bandwidth.  Choices abound. For some it's an

issue of cost.  They do not see the additional value.  There are several

services that provide satellite downlink using 20th century request

telephone uplink technology.  It can work as far north as Alaska and I

live in a forest.



I enjoy Matt's hosting and will continue to want to stay on the bus

rather than stop frequently for a few. As you know I also love your

photos.  One service might be for members to use the 19th century

telephone and read the posts so as not to jam up the tin cans and string

which are clearly run too tight with their computers. 



Just checked my Comcast service and a 35Mb file takes 14 seconds.  The

service is half the cost of my twisted pair telephony.  Just a

contrarian perspective.



Keep the information flowing.



John

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ronlee(at)pcisys.net
Guest

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:30 am Post subject: Large attachments

Very condescending John.  It is also easy for a poster to reduce the picture

size to one that is not problematic.



Ron Lee



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ghinman(at)mts.net
Guest

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:10 am Post subject: Large attachments

Use Microsoft ImageResizer.exe

  http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/Downloads/powertoys/Xppowertoys.mspx

          To reduce size of pictures.



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George H. Inman

ghinman(at)mts.net

jsflyrv(at)verizon.net
Guest

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:35 am Post subject: Large attachments

George Inman 204 287 8334 wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 <ghinman(at)mts.net>



                Use Microsoft ImageResizer.exe

  http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/Downloads/powertoys/Xppowertoys.mspx

          To reduce size of pictures.



Actually if it was Matts seat photos they were just the right size, 
	


would not want them any smaller.

I agree that it is time to get modernized and use a internet connection 

that is up to date.

Some of the cheap  or free dial ups are clunky and not worth using when 

there are options

today for _*almost*_ all to have faster internets.

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jfogarty(at)tds.net
Guest

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:50 am Post subject: Large attachments

Guys,  I think it was the RV8 metal plenum photo's, my computer handled them 

without any problem and the photo's were great.  Here's the deal, we all 

have different providers, some of them are really fast and some are really 

slow....., but I was happy to get all the great photo's.  The RV builder did 

say; "I hope this file is not too big."   Just my 2 cents.



Jim

RV9a MN

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skylor4(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:36 am Post subject: Large attachments

Ron,



Doesn't your e-mail software have an option to "ignore e-mails larger than xxx kB" or "download only headers larger than xxkBytes"?  I you used that then you would avoid having to expect the rest of the world to lower their e-mail standards to fit your personal needs.



Skylor



--- On Sat, 8/15/09, Ron Lee <ronlee(at)pcisys.net> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  

From: Ron Lee <ronlee(at)pcisys.net>

Subject: Re: Large attachments

To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 5:58 AM



--> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Lee" <[url=/mc/compose?to=ronlee(at)pcisys.net]ronlee(at)pcisys.net[/url]>



The sender is not important.  What  happens is that my email downloads

that message and effectively ties it up until done.  I know that dialup is

antiquated but it is what I have.



I had to disconnect from the internet then go into my email via the web portal

and find the message and delete it.



My safety was never in jeopardy but it is a nuisance.  This is just a request

to make those pictures smaller for posting.  If someone needs more detail

they can ask for it.



Do not archive



Ron Lee 



http://forums.matronics.com[/url]                     &nbstp://www.matronics.com/contribution" =======





	


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sbuc(at)hiwaay.net
Guest

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:40 am Post subject: Large attachments

Ron Lee wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Very condescending John.  It is also easy for a poster to reduce the 

 picture

 size to one that is not problematic.

 

 Ron Lee


	


Why not just upload the large images to one of the free photo hosting 

sites and put the URL in the email?????



Sam Buchanan

robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:36 am Post subject: Large attachments

A few points. 

I loved PowerToys as a simple right click image resizing tool but when I

"upgraded" to Vista PowerToys was not compatible. Based on this

conversation I just installed VSO Image Resizer and will give that a try

for quick resizings. It seems to work OK but not as ultra simple as

PowerToys. On a side note I did shortly thereafter make a webpage to

display my items for sale but they sold so quickly that few people saw

the page.  www.painttheweb.com/rv-8a/cowl 



Robin

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denis.walsh(at)comcast.ne
Guest

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:22 am Post subject: Large attachments

It is likely most of us are pretty well gagged with too much info on  

this minor problem.



I expect Matt can and will make an adjustment to the ground rules if  

warranted.



Let's all go to our corners and take a break.

On Aug 15, 2009, at 9:49 , Jim Fogarty, Lakes & Leisure Realty, Inc.  

wrote:



[quote] 

 Inc." <jfogarty(at)tds.net>



 Guys,  I think it was the RV8 metal plenum photo's, my computer  

 handled them without any problem and the photo's were great.  Here's  

 the deal, we all have different providers, some of them are really  

 fast and some are really slow....., but I was happy to get all the  

 great photo's.  The RV builder did say; "I hope this file is not too  

 big."   Just my 2 cents.



 Jim

 RV9a MN

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khorton01(at)rogers.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:54 pm Post subject: Large attachments

I am sympathetic to the issues caused by dial-up, having spent too  

many years on that service.  But, now that Matt is allowing  

attachments on his e-mail lists, it is a fact of life that some of  

those attachments are going to be larger than a dial-up user will  

want.  It isn't reasonable to expect that every user will manage to  

remember to think of the poor dial-up users every time.



Just complaining on the list is not going to do the job, as there is  

zero chance you will change everyone's behaviour.  If you want to  

solve the problem for good, you'll need to do it yourself, rather than  

depending on other people to solve your problem for you.  Most e-mail  

programs have options that allow the user to specify a maximum  

attachment size that will be downloaded.  If you really want to solve  

this problem, and your e-mail client doesn't have this option, maybe  

it is time to switch to another e-mail program.



Kevin Horton



On 15 Aug 2009, at 10:28, Ron Lee wrote:



[quote] 



 Very condescending John.  It is also easy for a poster to reduce the  

 picture

 size to one that is not problematic.



 Ron Lee



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bobbyhester(at)newwavecom
Guest

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:24 pm Post subject: Large attachments

Use this program and we won't have this problem anymore.

http://picasa.google.com/



Here is an example of what it will let you do and for free!

http://picasaweb.google.com/bobbyhesterKY/RichmondFlyInPictures09#

Click on slideshow near the left or click on a picture



----

Surfing the web from Hopkinsville, KY

Check out the latest on my website at:

http://home.newwavecomm.net/bobbyhester/2009JanJulyFlying.htm



Jim Fogarty, Lakes & Leisure Realty, Inc. wrote:

[quote] 

 Inc." <jfogarty(at)tds.net>



 Guys,  I think it was the RV8 metal plenum photo's, my computer 

 handled them without any problem and the photo's were great.  Here's 

 the deal, we all have different providers, some of them are really 

 fast and some are really slow....., but I was happy to get all the 

 great photo's.  The RV builder did say; "I hope this file is not too 

 big."   Just my 2 cents.



 Jim

 RV9a MN

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timb

Joined: 16 Apr 2008
Posts: 77
Location: Frankston, Texas

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:25 am Post subject: Large attachments

I have to say I am quite surprised by the responses on this list.  Photos

are not really enhanced by a resolution over about 76 when passed around in

email or posted on the web.  I have high speed Internet but still don't see

any point in consuming my bandwidth or all the shared bandwidth for large

photos.  I get a bit annoyed when sitting in an airport connected to my

blackberry on a slow connection trying to get a work email and then somebody

sends a 8Meg photo in a joke while I have to stop and change my email

settings, or log in via a web page to go get rid of it first.



Just because your car goes 120 mph doesn't make it OK to do so.  Really we

should all get a bit more educated about the technology and not just assume

because a huge file fits it is the right thing to do and the few who can't

are in the wrong.  We have at least some obligation to be realistic about

what we are doing.  The software to fix the issue is readily available for

free.  I take all my photos in high resolution in the event I want to print

them, but resize everything before posting on the Net.



Sorry, I never rant on this list and don't like it, but like I said the

responses have surprised me a bit. 



Tim Bryan

RV-6 Flying

N616TB over 120 hours now



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