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frank.hinde(at)hp.com
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:12 pm Post subject: tires

Can someone remind me of the link to get the 8" trailer tires used on

the 601 HD(s) series.



I'm about to sell my plane and I think the mains are gtting a little

thin.



Thanks



Frank



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kellymeiste(at)jcwifi.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:05 pm Post subject: tires

Frank,



I seen the same ZAC supplied trailer tires I had in my kit at my local Wal 

Mart store (auto section).



Kelly

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		   Can someone remind me of the link to get the 8" trailer tires used on

 the 601 HD(s) series.



 I'm about to sell my plane and I think the mains are gtting a little

 thin.



 Thanks



 Frank



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d3dw(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:02 pm Post subject: tires

Frank,

  The Wal-Mart tires are Carlisle tires. they are load range C, which is a little heavier than the ones ZAC supplied...about $9 a tire. I still have them on mine.  don

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frank.hinde(at)hp.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:16 pm Post subject: tires

Cool...Now I have friend that lives just down the road from the "Local"

Walmart some 30 miles away...OK so if I tell him to get 8 by X Carlisle

tires load range C...will that specify them adequately?



What is X by the way...Just got back from doing part of the annual and

forgot to look!



Thanks



Frank

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frank.hinde(at)hp.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:01 am Post subject: tires

Something is not quite right here...



My local Walmart stocks the tires in load range B...They can order them

in load range C but cost $27 retail.



This sounds out of line...are we sure they are load range C????



Thanks



Frank 



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frank.hinde(at)hp.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:59 am Post subject: tires

Further investigation looks like the load range C tires are 6 ply.



Cheng Shin offers a 6 ply tire for $19 (mail order) and $32 for the

Carlisle item also mail order.



Anyone know if the Chen shins work OK...in other words are rated

accordingly?



Or did ZAC originally supply load range B tires?



Help!...



Frank

frank.hinde(at)hp.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:22 am Post subject: tires

Ok now I find out that it seems all tires have gone up in

price...doubled in fact, probably due to the oil price increase.



Anyway, Northern tool still stock Carlisle 'C' range tires for $20...I

read somewhere that maybe these did not fit the forks somehow?...Is this

true?



Thanks



Frank



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leogates(at)allvantage.co
Guest

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 2:45 pm Post subject: tires

Just went out to the hangar to check.  My original ZAC tires (1997 kit) 

are 4.80-8, "NANCO" brand, load range "C".



270 landings in past year and not one sign of wear - grass strip 



Leo Gates

N601Z



Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis) wrote:



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Help!...



Frank

d3dw(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:37 pm Post subject: tires

ZAC originally supplied load range B by Chen, but the inflation capacity is less. the wal-mart tires for $9.95 is what I have been using...they show a higher capacity...that of load range C or close.

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paulhartl(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:42 am Post subject: tires

List, 



I just bought 3 new NANCO 4.80-8 6pr tires directly from MATCO for

$20.37 each.  I ordered them Sunday from MATCO's website, and they

arrived Tuesday via UPS.  Shipping cost was $14.81, totaling $75.92 for

the whole order.  These are the exact same tires that were supplied with

my original ZAC kit, which I purchased in 1998.  They can be found at:

http://www.matcomfg.com/catalog/index.php selecting the  "TIRE; 4.80-8 6

PR (TIRT480-" 



The reason I need new tires is that the inside sidewalls on the mains

had cracked pretty badly over the winter - their first winter outside.

A bit puzzling, since the outside sidewalls look fine, and the nosewheel

looks fine. Tires exposed to oxiding agents like ozone and even regular

atmospheric oxygen do deteriorate over time, and I guess 8 years is a

bit of time - but the part that rankles me is that 7 of those years were

in storage in my garage!  The fact that only the inside sidewalls

cracked makes me wonder if it doesn't have something to do with brake

fluid (DOT 5).  Although I don't have any brake line leaks, I do

remember making a mess when I originally filled them up. 



Paul



Paul Hartl, N414PZ, 601HDS/Jabiru 3300A, 42 hrs, 53 landings

Flight Simulator 2002/4 Zodiac Website: www.members.cox.net/paulhartl

Sun Valley, Idaho 83340 208-788-9147

frank.hinde(at)hp.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:00 am Post subject: tires

Ahh yes, unfortunatly the Matco site is not very easy to use as I could

not find any tires on it yesterday.



When I put " TIRT480-8" into the product search AND selected my country

it took me straight to the tire.



I only hope the carlisle items I ordered fit!...



Frank

601 HDS 394 hours



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paulhartl(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:05 am Post subject: tires

List,



 I forgot to mention that the NANCO tires 

I bought from MATCO state on the sidewalls: 

"6 P.R. 71M, LOAD RANGE C, TUBELESS"

"MAX. LOAD 745 LBS AT 90 P.S.I. COLD"



I use my with inner tubes (which MATCO also supplies) at 30 psi.



Paul



Paul Hartl, N414PZ, 601HDS/Jabiru 3300A, 42 hrs, 53 landings

Flight Simulator 2002/4 Zodiac Website: www.members.cox.net/paulhartl

Sun Valley, Idaho 83340 208-788-9147

cgalley(at)qcbc.org
Guest

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:32 am Post subject: tires

How about the heat from the brakes?



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tallow_98(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:35 am Post subject: Tires

I'd say that the brake fluid did it. Any solvent (oil,

gas, etc) will break down rubber.



Jimmy 601XL



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                      Total Messages Posted Wed

 04/05/06: 16

           



  

  

 Today's Message Index:

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      1. 03:02 AM - Re: Glue for rubber trim on

 canopy  (Jonathan Starke)

      2. 06:58 AM - Re: Glue for rubber trim on

 canopy  (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))

      3. 07:23 AM - Re: Glue for rubber trim on

 canopy  (AVIIDFLYIER(at)aol.com)

      4. 07:39 AM - Re: Glue for rubber trim on

 canopy  (Dave Ruddiman)

      5. 07:42 AM - tires  (Paul Hartl)

      6. 08:00 AM - Subject: ELT and

 Transponder/Altimeter certification  (Paul Hartl)

      7. 08:00 AM - Re: tires  (Hinde, Frank George

 (Corvallis))

      8. 08:05 AM - tires  (Paul Hartl)

      9. 10:25 AM - Re: Glue for rubber trim on

 canopy  (Aaron Gustafson)

     10. 11:32 AM - Re: tires  (cgalley)

     11. 04:12 PM - Homebuilder help videos.- 

 (gfduncan)

     12. 04:33 PM - tire wear  (alex trent)

     13. 04:38 PM - Re: Homebuilder help videos.- 

 (Bill Naumuk)

     14. 05:48 PM - Re: Homebuilder help videos.- 

 (Jean-Paul Roy)

     15. 06:11 PM - Re: Homebuilder help videos.- 

 (William Dominguez)

     16. 11:05 PM - Re: Homebuilder help videos.- 

 (Gary Gower)

  

  

  

 ________________________________  Message 1 

 _____________________________________

 

 

 Time: 03:02:44 AM PST US

 From: "Jonathan Starke" <jonathan(at)entry.co.za>

 Subject: RE: Glue for rubber trim on

 canopy

 

 

 <jonathan(at)entry.co.za>

 

 Hi All,

 

 Just thought I would let you all know, my bird has

 flown the coupe, she is now

 out of the garage, and at the field, awaiting final

 assembly...

 

 Should be test flown this weekedn - can't wait...

 

 Zodiac XL

 912S 

 All complete, in two years to the day!

 

 Cheers

 Jonathan Starke

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

  

  

 

 

 

 ________________________________  Message 2 

 _____________________________________

 

 

 Time: 06:58:57 AM PST US

 Subject: RE: Glue for rubber trim on

 canopy

 From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"

 <frank.hinde(at)hp.com>

 

 

 George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde(at)hp.com>

 

 Congrats Jonathan,

 

 Now please slow down and do not put an artificial

 dead line on

 yourself...Yes you CAN wait!

 

 Assemble the plane and then stand back and go over

 every single stinking

 nut and bolt one last time. Even better have someone

 who knows about

 airplanes do it with you..

 

 You will be amazed how easy it is to overlook

 something. Take another

 day/week/month if you have to...Its nothing in the

 grand scheme of

 things and could save your life.

 

 Have a wonderful first flight.

 

 Frank

 HDS 394 hours 

 

 Do not archive

 

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n801bh(at)netzero.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:33 am Post subject: Tires

I am going with Cy on this one. It probably is the heat off the brake disc. 

Ben Haas

N801BH

www.haaspowerair.com



-- Jimmy Mathis <tallow_98(at)yahoo.com> wrote:




I'd say that the brake fluid did it. Any solvent (oil,

gas, etc) will break down rubber.



Jimmy 601XL



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                            Zenith-List Digest

 Archive

                                       ---

                      Total Messages Posted Wed

 04/05/06: 16

           



  

  

 Today's Message Index:

 ----------------------

  

      1. 03:02 AM - Re: Glue for rubber trim on

 canopy  (Jonathan Starke)

      2. 06:58 AM - Re: Glue for rubber trim on

 canopy  (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))

      3. 07:23 AM - Re: Glue for rubber trim on

 canopy  (AVIIDFLYIER(at)aol.com)

      4. 07:39 AM - Re: Glue for rubber trim on

 canopy  (Dave Ruddiman)

      5. 07:42 AM - tires  (Paul Hartl)

      6. 08:00 AM - Subject: ELT and

 Transponder/Altimeter certification  (Paul Hartl)

      7. 08:00 AM - Re: tires  (Hinde, Frank George

 (Corvallis))

      8. 08:05 AM - tires  (Paul Hartl)

      9. 10:25 AM - Re: Glue for rubber trim on

 canopy  (Aaron Gustafson)

     10. 11:32 AM - Re: tires  (cgalley)

     11. 04:12 PM - Homebuilder help videos.- 

 (gfduncan)

     12. 04:33 PM - tire wear  (alex trent)

     13. 04:38 PM - Re: Homebuilder help videos.- 

 (Bill Naumuk)

     14. 05:48 PM - Re: Homebuilder help videos.- 

 (Jean-Paul Roy)

     15. 06:11 PM - Re: Homebuilder help videos.- 

 (William Dominguez)

     16. 11:05 PM - Re: Homebuilder help videos.- 

 (Gary Gower)

  

  

  

 ________________________________  Message 1 

 _____________________________________

 

 

 Time: 03:02:44 AM PST US

 From: "Jonathan Starke" <jonathan(at)entry.co.za>

 Subject: RE: Glue for rubber trim on

 canopy

 

 

 <jonathan(at)entry.co.za>

 

 Hi All,

 

 Just thought I would let you all know, my bird has

 flown the coupe, she is now

 out of the garage, and at the field, awaiting final

 assembly...

 

 Should be test flown this weekedn - can't wait...

 

 Zodiac XL

 912S 

 All complete, in two years to the day!

 

 Cheers

 Jonathan Starke

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

  

  

 

 

 

 ________________________________  Message 2 

 _____________________________________

 

 

 Time: 06:58:57 AM PST US

 Subject: RE: Glue for rubber trim on

 canopy

 From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"

 <frank.hinde(at)hp.com>

 

 

 George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde(at)hp.com>

 

 Congrats Jonathan,

 

 Now please slow down and do not put an artificial

 dead line on

 yourself...Yes you CAN wait!

 

 Assemble the plane and then stand back and go over

 every single stinking

 nut and bolt one last time. Even better have someone

 who knows about

 airplanes do it with you..

 

 You will be amazed how easy it is to overlook

 something. Take another

 day/week/month if you have to...Its nothing in the

 grand scheme of

 things and could save your life.

 

 Have a wonderful first flight.

 

 Frank

 HDS 394 hours 

 

 Do not archive

 

 --

frank.hinde(at)hp.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:10 am Post subject: Tires

What heat?....MY 601 brakes barely worked well enough to generate any

heat!



Then I fitted brake intensifiers...What a difference, they almost work

now!



Frank



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cgalley(at)qcbc.org
Guest

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:39 am Post subject: Tires

You would be surprised how much heat your brakes generate.  If you don't 

believe, touch the drum or disk after landing. Second thought, don't touch 

them as I would not like to hear you burned your fingers.



Cy Galley

EAA Safety Programs Editor

Always looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot

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