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slyck(at)frontiernet.net
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:12 pm Post subject: Trailer challenge

We try to suppress misleading and inflammatory news about aviation because of our exasperatingly ignorant pressand politicians.  How many of us have groaned at the reading of a news report that has but the slightest relation to reality

or common sense.  -Stuff like: "the pilot took off without clearance" .  Yikes! we all do that every time we fly our Kolbs, but the

common public thinks we are on some kind of a leash like in Russia.  Problem is, dimwits like our very own NY senator

Schumer would like to have it that way.   So we quietly wait one more time for the nonsense to blow over.

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On 6, Jan 2010, at 7:04 PM, pj.ladd wrote:

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		  another good word, picture 

Doctor Evil stroking his cat and laughing hysterically while plotting world 

domination in his Kolb).>>

 

Hi Dana,

glorious picture. LOL

 

Don`t really want to start a big thing over this. I know that the American thinks automatically, that anything which government or `authority` does is suspect, and I have a certain sympathy with that stance but in view of 9/11 etc., if |I was in charge I would certainly want some control of aircraft and pushing an unregistered plane through a hole in the hedge without any say so from the control tower would worry me. If in the first instance I could only do it for airfields which were receiving government funding, that would be the first step..

What damage they can do is largely irrelevant. I remember having to get a Million pounds worth of insurance to fly my glider into an RAF airfield because they maintained  some stores there. 

 

Cheers

 

Pat

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:42 pm Post subject: Trailer challenge

PatNot to prolong things, but one problem here is that (I've been told at least) if any airfield gets money from the US government, they have to fence the entire perimeter. So they all do. But in many/most areas, white-tailed deer will jump any 6' high fence to get in, and are absolute HELL to get off the field again. So the 9' high fences. 

Nothing's easy these days! -- as I'm sure you've noticed.

All the best in 2010.

Russ

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On Jan 6, 2010, at 7:04 PM, pj.ladd wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  another good word, picture 

Doctor Evil stroking his cat and laughing hysterically while plotting world 

domination in his Kolb).>>

 

Hi Dana,

glorious picture. LOL

 

Don`t really want to start a big thing over this. I know that the American thinks automatically, that anything which government or `authority` does is suspect, and I have a certain sympathy with that stance but in view of 9/11 etc., if |I was in charge I would certainly want some control of aircraft and pushing an unregistered plane through a hole in the hedge without any say so from the control tower would worry me. If in the first instance I could only do it for airfields which were receiving government funding, that would be the first step..

What damage they can do is largely irrelevant. I remember having to get a Million pounds worth of insurance to fly my glider into an RAF airfield because they maintained  some stores there. 

 

Cheers

 

Pat

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Dana

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:54 pm Post subject: Trailer challenge

At 07:22 PM 1/6/2010, robert bean wrote:

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		  ...Stuff like: "the pilot took off without clearance"... 	


 .. "without filing a flight plan"... in (oh, the horror!) an UNREGISTERED aircraft!



 -Dana



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Dana

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:54 pm Post subject: Trailer challenge

Pat,



 What control tower?  We have about 20,000 airports in the US, only about 700 of which have control towers.  Probably only 10% of US airports even have anybody present most of the time.  There's simply no way that keeping a guy who lives in a house adjacent to an airport from taxiing from his private hangar onto the airport is going to do ANYTHING to protect the general public.  The rules everybody's talking about don't even apply to trailering through the gate, only to adjacent property owners.



 We take our freedoms seriously here (or most of us do)... the faceless bureaucrat in Washington justifying his budget by hassling sport pilots at a sleepy little airfield way out in the country and claiming "it's for our own good" is the real evildoer.



 There are far better ways to combat terrorism, but they're not politically correct so of course we won't do them.



 -Dana



 

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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:25 am Post subject: Trailer challenge

What control tower?>>

  

 Hi Dana,

  

 Of course you are right. I tend to forget the basic  difference between the USA and the UK which is SIZE.  I think it would be  difficult in the UK to find even a farm strip which is not overlooked by someone  . A change in the pattern of use would probably be remarked on and noted. Also  we have no `flying communities` where you could taxi from your house to the peri  track. 

  

 Cheers

  

 Pat

  

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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:01 am Post subject: Trailer challenge

Not to prolong things>>

  

 Hi Russ,

 I am quite sure there are ramifications of which I  am not aware. I was really just noting that just because` authority` wants  something done it is not automatically bad.

  

 I think the American `stand on your own feet`   philosophy is wholly admirable and the idea that  `guv`ment  interference` should be treated with suspicion is great. The trouble is that at  the other end of the spectrum this means that a National Health Bill, which  means that you don`t have to sell your house before you can go into hospital,  and which most of the rest of the world accept as a basic tenet of a civilized  country is looked on as rank Communism in the USA.

  

 Never mind, its the differences between countries  and attitudes which help to make this life interesting.

  

 Off next week to Bangkok, and Cambodia, down the  Mekong and then Australia and then a month on the beach in New Zealand. That  ought to turn up a few different attitudes to life. Money for one with the  Cambodian Riel at 6,618 to the £.  

  

 Finished my anti cancer course of  treatment  last week so there is nothing to  be done before I get back to the UK in March. Then there will be a biopsy and,  depending on the result, I shall have some more treatment or not.  All  without paying a penny.

  

 The plane is laid up, drained, plugs out and  `winterised`, wheels off the ground and everything covered up. All ready  to  start flying again in April, I hope.

  

 Wx has been bad in the UK for the last 3 weeks.  Scotland and the north have had  snow and temps below freezing. Not much by  the standards of some of your States but because we don`t get it very often we  do not have the infrastructure of machines standing by to deal with it. We have  been lucky locally. About 8 inches of snow a couple of nights ago but today is  cold and bright sun. Everything looks like a picture. Very icy, last night temps  down to 10 dgrees C below..

  

 Wendy has bought a small `netbook` portable and  various `dongles` which I hope will mean we can stay in touch with the list  while we are away.

  

 All the best

  

 Pat

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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:11 am Post subject: Trailer challenge

Stuff like: "the pilot took off without clearance"  .  >>

  

 Hi Robert,

 Yea! Shock, horror! No flight plan? No radio? This  must be stopped!

  

 The trouble is that the ignorant, particularly the  press, is not interested in improving their knowledge.

 Many years ago when I was Secretary of my gliding  club I got fed up with every away landing being reported as a crash. I contacted  the editors of all our local papers and told them that if they wanted the pukka  gen on anything happening just give me a ring and I would give them an  update.  None of them ever did. It is just too easy to run a headline about  `Crashed glider" than to check on the facts.

  

 People!

  

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 Pat

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