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Guys,
Not to beat a dead horse, but how difficult is it to trim your messages and not just lazily hit reply and include a ton of extraneous info (like I just did as an example) that all of us "Digest" guys have to sort through? It's just poor list etiquette...
Beyond that...it costs storage space on the server (which translates to $$$ for the host). From the usage guidelines:
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
My guess is that YOU get pretty upset when some Sunday flier keys the mic at a busy airport and says "Uhhhhhhhh, this is,uhhhh, Three Niner Three Echooooooo....we're, uhhhh, on the 45.....uhhhh....about three miles from, uh, entering the downwind......and, uhhhh, we'll be landing....uhhhh...hey Jerry, you there?....."
Well, that's exactly what untrimmed posts are to this list! 
Thanks in advance from all of us.
Bdog
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Total Messages Posted Tue 03/09/10: 19
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Today's Message Index:
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1. 04:37 AM - Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas (keithmckinley)
2. 05:05 AM - Re: Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas (Eric Wobschall)
3. 06:57 AM - Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas (keithmckinley)
4. 06:57 AM - Re: Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas (vectorwarbirds(at)aol.com (vectorwarbirds(at)aol.com))
5. 07:09 AM - Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas (keithmckinley)
6. 07:10 AM - Re: Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas (Mark Davis)
7. 07:42 AM - Re: Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas (T A LEWIS)
8. 09:25 AM - Re: Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas (Roger Kemp M.D.)
9. 01:30 PM - Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas (keithmckinley)
10. 03:11 PM - Re: Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas (vectorwarbirds(at)aol.com (vectorwarbirds(at)aol.com))
11. 03:13 PM - Re: Re: Commercial use? (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
12. 03:21 PM - Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas (keithmckinley)
13. 05:02 PM - Re: Re: Commercial use? (Sam Sax)
14. 07:09 PM - Re: Re: Commercial use? (vectorwarbirds(at)aol.com (vectorwarbirds(at)aol.com))
15. 07:31 PM - Re: Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas (bill wade)
16. 07:34 PM - Re: Re: Commercial use? (KingCJ6(at)aol.com (KingCJ6(at)aol.com))
17. 07:48 PM - Re: Re: Commercial use? (vectorwarbirds(at)aol.com (vectorwarbirds(at)aol.com))
18. 08:12 PM - Re: Re: Commercial use? (cjpilot710(at)AOL.COM (cjpilot710(at)AOL.COM))
19. 10:05 PM - Fuel pump parts (Tom Elliott)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 04:37:50 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas
From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley(at)townisp.com (keith.mckinley(at)townisp.com)>
A consideration for Mogas containing ethanol might be to use Marine Stabil.
http://www.goldeagle.com/brands/stabil/products.aspx#marine_formula
Comes out to about 6 cents per gallon to treat your fuel. I always use 2oz of
MMO per 5 gal as well
Thoughts?
Keith
--------
Keith McKinley
700HS
KFIT
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289767#289767
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 05:05:20 AM PST US
From: Eric Wobschall <eric(at)buffaloskyline.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas
Nice that it fights the hygroscopic effect of ethanol, but of course
that doesn't keep it from eating seals, etc. Also, is spalling also
an issue with ethanol? Apparently, the guys who use MoGas never use a
version with ethanol, but I think that there can be a certain amount
(<10%?) before they have to tell you about it. Around here (NE), it
seems to always have it.
MMO seems to at least be harmless. Not sure about that "vapor blast"
thing that supposed to be happening. I know it's been used forever,
but I'm not sanguine about something that has the word "mystery" in
it's name.
I worry about improvising things as long as the approved fuels are
available. Of course, I appreciate the research and anecdotal reports,
considering the likely demise of 100LL.
On Mar 9, 2010, at 7:36 AM, keithmckinley wrote:
________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 06:57:34 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas
From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley(at)townisp.com>
Radio,
I sent you a PM with some info on Mogas in northern NEw England. Don;t know where
you are.
Keith
--------
Keith McKinley
700HS
KFIT
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289784#289784
________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 06:57:40 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas
From: vectorwarbirds(at)aol.com
Gentlemen,
If you will take some time to research the web concerning running ethanol
in aircraft you might find out the same thing we did. That almost 100%
of aircraft hoses made in the last 15 years are alcohol proof. Our long
term testing on CJ rubber produced zero effects. Thats a year soaking in
it by the way. There are many university studies and many US aircraft fl
ying on it. even P&W 985's in AG service. I believe its a lot easier and
safer to research the smartest people in the USA doing the research and
try and understand their findings instead of just a bunch of opinions on
the List. Mine included. You probably know as well as I do that 100LL
has been just a way to fleece the aviation world for years now, or why wo
uld the FAA issue STC's for using mogas in many US aircraft for so many ye
ars?
But in the final analysis eariler we have been running mogas with and with
out E10 for years now in three CJs and one Yak 18T, not one single problem
ever. But as I said do some research for yourself.
TGB
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LawnDart
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| Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:29 am Post subject: Re: Yak-List Digest: 19 Msgs - 03/09/10 |
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LOL!
[quote="barryhancock"]Guys,
Not to beat a dead horse, but how difficult is it to trim your messages and not just lazily hit reply and include a ton of extraneous info (like I just did as an example) that all of us "Digest" guys have to sort through? It's just poor list etiquette...
Beyond that...it costs storage space on the server (which translates to $$$ for the host). From the usage guidelines:
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
My guess is that YOU get pretty upset when some Sunday flier keys the mic at a busy airport and says "Uhhhhhhhh, this is,uhhhh, Three Niner Three Echooooooo....we're, uhhhh, on the 45.....uhhhh....about three miles from, uh, entering the downwind......and, uhhhh, we'll be landing....uhhhh...hey Jerry, you there?....."
Well, that's exactly what untrimmed posts are to this list!
Thanks in advance from all of us.
Bdog
On Mar 9, 2010, at 11:59 PM, Yak-List Digest Server wrote:
[quote]*
Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
Today's complete Yak-List Digest can also be found in either of the
two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
such as Notepad or with a web browser.
HTML Version:
[url=http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter=2010-03-09&Archive=Yak]http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter=2010-03-09&Archive=Yak[/url]
Text Version:
[url=http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter=2010-03-09&Archive=Yak]http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter=2010-03-09&Archive=Yak[/url]
=======================
EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
=======================
----------------------------------------------------------
� � Yak-List Digest Archive
� � ---
� Total Messages Posted Tue 03/09/10: 19
----------------------------------------------------------
Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 04:37 AM - Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas (keithmckinley)
2. 05:05 AM - Re: Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas (Eric Wobschall)
3. 06:57 AM - Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas (keithmckinley)
4. 06:57 AM - Re: Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas (vectorwarbirds(at)aol.com ([email]vectorwarbirds(at)aol.com[/email]))
5. 07:09 AM - Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas (keithmckinley)
6. 07:10 AM - Re: Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas (Mark Davis)
7. 07:42 AM - Re: Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas (T A LEWIS)
8. 09:25 AM - Re: Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas (Roger Kemp M.D.)
9. 01:30 PM - Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas (keithmckinley)
10. 03:11 PM - Re: Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas (vectorwarbirds(at)aol.com ([email]vectorwarbirds(at)aol.com[/email]))
11. 03:13 PM - Re: Re: Commercial use? (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
12. 03:21 PM - Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas (keithmckinley)
13. 05:02 PM - Re: Re: Commercial use? (Sam Sax)
14. 07:09 PM - Re: Re: Commercial use? (vectorwarbirds(at)aol.com ([email]vectorwarbirds(at)aol.com[/email]))
15. 07:31 PM - Re: Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas (bill wade)
16. 07:34 PM - Re: Re: Commercial use? (KingCJ6(at)aol.com ([email]KingCJ6(at)aol.com[/email]))
17. 07:48 PM - Re: Re: Commercial use? (vectorwarbirds(at)aol.com ([email]vectorwarbirds(at)aol.com[/email]))
18. 08:12 PM - Re: Re: Commercial use? (cjpilot710(at)AOL.COM ([email]cjpilot710(at)AOL.COM[/email]))
19. 10:05 PM - Fuel pump parts (Tom Elliott)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 04:37:50 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas
From: "keithmckinley" <keith>
A consideration for Mogas containing ethanol might be to use Marine Stabil.
[url=http://www.goldeagle.com/brands/stabil/products.aspx#marine_formula]http://www.goldeagle.com/brands/stabil/products.aspx#marine_formula[/url]
Comes out to about 6 cents per gallon to treat your fuel. I always use 2oz of
MMO per 5 gal as well
Thoughts?
Keith
--------
Keith McKinley
700HS
KFIT
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289767#289767
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 05:05:20 AM PST US
From: Eric Wobschall <eric>
Subject: Re: Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas
Nice that it fights the hygroscopic effect of ethanol, but of course
that doesn't keep it from eating seals, etc. Also, is spalling also
an issue with ethanol? Apparently, the guys who use MoGas never use a
version with ethanol, but I think that there can be a certain amount
(<10%?) before they have to tell you about it. Around here (NE), it
seems to always have it.
MMO seems to at least be harmless. Not sure about that "vapor blast"
thing that supposed to be happening. I know it's been used forever,
but I'm not sanguine about something that has the word "mystery" in
it's name.
I worry about improvising things as long as the approved fuels are
available. Of course, I appreciate the research and anecdotal reports,
considering the likely demise of 100LL.
On Mar 9, 2010, at 7:36 AM, keithmckinley wrote:
[quote][quote]
[/quote]
A consideration for Mogas containing ethanol might be to use Marine
Stabil.
http://www.goldeagle.com/brands/stabil/products.aspx#marine_formula
Comes out to about 6 cents per gallon to treat your fuel. I always
use 2oz of MMO per 5 gal as well
Thoughts?
Keith
--------
Keith McKinley
700HS
KFIT
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289767#289767
[/quote]
________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 06:57:34 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas
From: "keithmckinley" <keith>
Radio,
I sent you a PM with some info on Mogas in northern NEw England. Don;t know where
you are.
Keith
--------
Keith McKinley
700HS
KFIT
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289784#289784
________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 06:57:40 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Re: Nanchangs, Sun N Fun and Mogas
From: vectorwarbirds(at)aol.com
Gentlemen,
If you will take some time to research the web concerning running ethanol
in aircraft you might find out the same thing we did. That almost 100%
of aircraft hoses made in the last 15 years are alcohol proof. Our long
term testing on CJ rubber produced zero effects. Thats a year soaking in
it by the way. There are many university studies and many US aircraft fl
ying on it. even P&W 985's in AG service. I believe its a lot easier and
safer to research the smartest people in the USA doing the research and
try and understand their findings instead of just a bunch of opinions on
the List. Mine included. You probably know as well as I do that 100LL
has been just a way to fleece the aviation world for years now, or why wo
uld the FAA issue STC's for using mogas in many US aircraft for so many ye
ars?
But in the final analysis eariler we have been running mogas with and with
out E10 for years now in three CJs and one Yak 18T, not one single problem
ever. But as I said do some research for yourself.
TGB
--[/quote]
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