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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:03 pm    Post subject: Recording a NMEA GPS stream Reply with quote

Guys,

Does anyone know anything about Arduino boards? Can these devices be used to monitor an NMEA datastream and record to USB stick or SD card?

This may sound really basic to some, but it is a question that has been occasionally exercising my brain on and off for some years, how to record the NMEA datastream from a GPS device? About 12 years ago I was involved in re-instrumenting a glider that required the GPS to provide data to a glide computer that provided data to a PDA. I had only worked with 1553 before that and had to learn about NMEA. The PDA software vendor provided a utility that would record the datastream - which was very useful in debugging that installation.

Since then I have occasionally wanted to record a NMEA datastream, but not so much that I really looked into it seriously. I have recently re-built my panel. The GPS feeds into the EFIS are not working properly so now I need a datastream monitor - this device seems like it might do the trick.

Does anyone have any experience using such a board or are there any resources on-line that explain how to do this?

Thanks, Pete
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:44 pm    Post subject: Recording a NMEA GPS stream Reply with quote

At 04:01 PM 8/20/2012, you wrote:
Quote:
Guys,

Does anyone know anything about Arduino boards? Can these devices be used to monitor an NMEA datastream and record to USB stick or SD card?

Sure. There are several add-ons to the
generic Arduino boards to talk to SD cards,
thumbdrives, etc.

http://tinyurl.com/8m7m7sb

The NMEA data stream is plain vanilla
RS232 levels and formatted data streams
of data delivered in a series of bytes.

I'm sure you could set up a board to
simply record the data as presented or
you could parse the string out to record
say lat, lot, gs, crs, and date-time . . .
a sort of second by second logbook of where
you've been and how fast you got there.



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:55 pm    Post subject: Recording a NMEA GPS stream Reply with quote

Well, a little more surfing has revealed this device

ArduLog Data Logger

looks like what I need, and less than £15. I know this is a UK site, but similar stuff must exist in the US. I guess 5v from a GPS cigarette lighter power supply will work to power it.

Pete

On 20/08/2012 22:01, Peter Pengilly wrote:

[quote] Guys,

Does anyone know anything about Arduino boards? Can these devices be used to monitor an NMEA datastream and record to USB stick or SD card?

This may sound really basic to some, but it is a question that has been occasionally exercising my brain on and off for some years, how to record the NMEA datastream from a GPS device? About 12 years ago I was involved in re-instrumenting a glider that required the GPS to provide data to a glide computer that provided data to a PDA. I had only worked with 1553 before that and had to learn about NMEA. The PDA software vendor provided a utility that would record the datastream - which was very useful in debugging that installation.

Since then I have occasionally wanted to record a NMEA datastream, but not so much that I really looked into it seriously. I have recently re-built my panel. The GPS feeds into the EFIS are not working properly so now I need a datastream monitor - this device seems like it might do the trick.

Does anyone have any experience using such a board or are there any resources on-line that explain how to do this?

Thanks, Pete
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:04 pm    Post subject: Recording a NMEA GPS stream Reply with quote

Quote:
The GPS feeds into the EFIS are not working properly so now I need a datastream monitor - this device seems like it might do the trick.

Hmmm . . . I missed this point the first pass through
your query. For a troubleshooting monitor, you may
be better served with a lap-top configured with an
RS-232 to USB adapter and a utility to read data
streams and put them up on the screen in real time
either as a scrolling presentation . . . or parse
of some interesting words and display current values
in a box on the screen.

I used to do this kind of stuff all the time at
Beech/RAC/HBC. I could get my laptop and data acquisition
system going and installed before the legacy service
organizations could get their work orders approved
and funded. Damn it was nice to have a dedicated
budget for such things!

Did all my lap-top work in compiled basic.



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:45 pm    Post subject: Recording a NMEA GPS stream Reply with quote

If you're really interested in embedded programming and you want to avoid the laptop, the Arduinos probably will fit the bill.  However, if you just want to troubleshoot NMEA, then a laptop with serial port (or USB adapter) and software would be fastest.  You can probably tap off the GPS' TxD pin to your laptop's RxD pin.

A Google search turns up a few programs, none of which I have experience with, but all look useful of some sort.

http://www.visualgps.net/visualgps/
http://homepage2.nifty.com/k8/gps/
http://www.aviadesign.com/Monitor/
  -Jeff-

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)> wrote:
[quote]
Quote:
 The GPS feeds into the EFIS are not working properly so now I need a datastream monitor - this device seems like it might do the trick.


  Hmmm . . . I missed this point the first pass through
  your query. For a troubleshooting monitor, you may
  be better served with a lap-top configured with an
  RS-232 to USB adapter and a utility to read data
  streams and put them up on the screen in real time
  either as a scrolling presentation . . . or parse
  of some interesting words and display current values
  in a box on the screen.

  I used to do this kind of stuff all the time at
  Beech/RAC/HBC. I could get my laptop and data acquisition
  system going and installed before the legacy service
  organizations could get their work orders approved
  and funded. Damn it was nice to have a dedicated
  budget for such things!

  Did all my lap-top work in compiled basic.



  Bob . . .

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:13 pm    Post subject: Recording a NMEA GPS stream Reply with quote

Thanks for all the pointers - I don't have a laptop at present so figured a small datalogger would be cheaper!

Peter

On 21/08/2012 05:44, Jeff B. wrote:

[quote]If you're really interested in embedded programming and you want to avoid the laptop, the Arduinos probably will fit the bill. However, if you just want to troubleshoot NMEA, then a laptop with serial port (or USB adapter) and software would be fastest. You can probably tap off the GPS' TxD pin to your laptop's RxD pin.

A Google search turns up a few programs, none of which I have experience with, but all look useful of some sort.

http://www.visualgps.net/visualgps/
http://homepage2.nifty.com/k8/gps/
http://www.aviadesign.com/Monitor/


-Jeff-

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)> wrote:
Quote:
Quote:
The GPS feeds into the EFIS are not working properly so now I need a datastream monitor - this device seems like it might do the trick.


Hmmm . . . I missed this point the first pass through
your query. For a troubleshooting monitor, you may
be better served with a lap-top configured with an
RS-232 to USB adapter and a utility to read data
streams and put them up on the screen in real time
either as a scrolling presentation . . . or parse
of some interesting words and display current values
in a box on the screen.

I used to do this kind of stuff all the time at
Beech/RAC/HBC. I could get my laptop and data acquisition
system going and installed before the legacy service
organizations could get their work orders approved
and funded. Damn it was nice to have a dedicated
budget for such things!

Did all my lap-top work in compiled basic.



Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:59 pm    Post subject: Recording a NMEA GPS stream Reply with quote

The combination of these two should do nicely, no coding required (but
you can also use them to learn about microcontrollers if you want to):
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10216
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/8780

Henry
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Peter Pengilly <peter(at)sportingaero.com> wrote:
Quote:
Thanks for all the pointers - I don't have a laptop at present so figured a
small datalogger would be cheaper!

Peter
On 21/08/2012 05:44, Jeff B. wrote:

If you're really interested in embedded programming and you want to avoid
the laptop, the Arduinos probably will fit the bill. However, if you just
want to troubleshoot NMEA, then a laptop with serial port (or USB adapter)
and software would be fastest. You can probably tap off the GPS' TxD pin to
your laptop's RxD pin.

A Google search turns up a few programs, none of which I have experience
with, but all look useful of some sort.

http://www.visualgps.net/visualgps/
http://homepage2.nifty.com/k8/gps/
http://www.aviadesign.com/Monitor/
-Jeff-

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III
<nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com> wrote:
>
> The GPS feeds into the EFIS are not working properly so now I need a
> datastream monitor - this device seems like it might do the trick.
> Hmmm . . . I missed this point the first pass through
> your query. For a troubleshooting monitor, you may
> be better served with a lap-top configured with an
> RS-232 to USB adapter and a utility to read data
> streams and put them up on the screen in real time
> either as a scrolling presentation . . . or parse
> of some interesting words and display current values
> in a box on the screen.
>
> I used to do this kind of stuff all the time at
> Beech/RAC/HBC. I could get my laptop and data acquisition
> system going and installed before the legacy service
> organizations could get their work orders approved
> and funded. Damn it was nice to have a dedicated
> budget for such things!
>
> Did all my lap-top work in compiled basic.
> Bob . . .





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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Recording a NMEA GPS stream Reply with quote

I made one of these a while back. Works great!

http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=84045


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:28 am    Post subject: Recording a NMEA GPS stream Reply with quote

Cool, thanks!

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I made one of these a while back. Works great!

http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=84045


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