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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:33 am    Post subject: Outside aircraft Reply with quote
Hi Richard,
Thanks for your message,personally I would never leave DH outside for any
Appreciable time,with or without covers.
I've done quite a bit of gliding in my time,so I'm well familiar with composites and their draw-backs.
Did you sand back,dry out and re-paint
Your tailplanes?
The aircraft I saw here in the U.K.at first
Looked ok,but on closer inspection,it was obvious it was in a sorry state,with
Quite a few blisters mid-way on the D-box on the wing,..just where you don't want to see them.
So,it looks like it would require major strip dry out at 35-40 c dehumidifiers,
Silica gel etc,and even then there could
Be underlying freezing damage to the structure,which would require investigation before any re-painting was
carried out.
If you do leave your aircraft out,a polish with good old beeswax is a good tip to help keep the water out.
Best Regards
Andy Cullum.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:23 pm    Post subject: Outside aircraft Reply with quote
Sounds to me like this ship would deserve full sand bagging for checking POS and NEG G-loading before flight test...

On Jul 5, 2013, at 11:33 AM, andrew cullum wrote:

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The aircraft I saw here in the U.K.at first
Looked ok,but on closer inspection,it was obvious it was in a sorry state,with
Quite a few blisters mid-way on the D-box on the wing,..just where you don't want to see them.
So,it looks like it would require major strip dry out at 35-40 c dehumidifiers,
Silica gel etc,and even then there could
Be underlying freezing damage to the structure,which would require investigation before any re-painting was
carried out.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:53 pm    Post subject: Outside aircraft Reply with quote
Yes,good point Fred.
Just to illustrate my point,a few years ago there was a Rallye Minerva parked at a local airfield.
It had a composite Hoffman variable pitch propellor,almost brand new.
Sadly, the owner hadnt paid the bill for
Maintenance,so the company put it outside,without removing the propellor.
It remained outside for about 18 months,which meant particularly cold temps in winter,snow etc.
I examined the prop and lo and behold,
Every blade had a nasty crack at the base close to the vari pitch hub,about 2" long....water ingress and freezing damage obviously.
I rest my case.
Andy Cullum.

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On 6 Jul 2013, at 00:28, "Fred Klein" <fklein(at)orcasonline.com> wrote:

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Sounds to me like this ship would deserve full sand bagging for checking POS and NEG G-loading before flight test...

On Jul 5, 2013, at 11:33 AM, andrew cullum wrote:

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> The aircraft I saw here in the U.K.at first
> Looked ok,but on closer inspection,it was obvious it was in a sorry state,with
> Quite a few blisters mid-way on the D-box on the wing,..just where you don't want to see them.
> So,it looks like it would require major strip dry out at 35-40 c dehumidifiers,
> Silica gel etc,and even then there could
> Be underlying freezing damage to the structure,which would require investigation before any re-painting was
> carried out.








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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:24 am    Post subject: Re: Outside aircraft Reply with quote
I can't understand the motivation for these threads, this and the one re G KITS, unless I am being thick it sounds like someone has wandered up to someone elses plane seen letters faded etc and proceeded to have a public, in print for all time, slagging off of it and its state. Is this a good way to carry on? This doesnt sound like the europa forum to me. Even if there were facts rather than views it wouldnt be fair.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:11 am    Post subject: Outside aircraft Reply with quote
Agreed.................

We will all be able to criticise another aircraft if we want too, there but for the grace of God go I

from the other one!


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I can't understand the motivation for these threads, this and the one re G KITS, unless I am being thick it sounds like someone has wandered up to someone elses plane seen letters faded etc and proceeded to have a public, in print for all time, slagging off of it and its state. Is this a good way to carry on? This doesnt sound like the europa forum to me. Even if there were facts rather than views it wouldnt be fair.

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