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				 Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:58 pm    Post subject: another video | 
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				Yesterday I inadvertently posted that I was going to check for some Elk, so today I did so. None were to be found! I took some video anyway, and figured I would share. From the looks of things you are not having very nice weather in the East, but it was nice here today. A bit cool 42 degrees when I took off.
 
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				 Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:02 pm    Post subject: another video | 
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				A bit cool????? I workt in -63F once. your temps re near-tropical. But many thanx your videos. Look forward to seeing some elk, sometime
  Fair winds,
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 Yesterday I inadvertently posted that I was going to check for some Elk, so today I did so. None were to be found! I took some video anyway, and figured I would share. From the looks of things you are not having very nice weather in the East, but it was nice here today. A bit cool 42 degrees when I took off.
 https://vimeo.com/156633142  password owyheeflyer
 
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				 Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:12 pm    Post subject: Re: another video | 
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				Thanks for the Video Larry!
 It's too cold for me to consider flyin' yet, good to see you out and about.
 
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				 Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:05 am    Post subject: another video | 
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				Nice video as always. Thanks. pity about the elk. Still, they are not very  bright and have probably gone off to vote for Trump!!!.  Pat
     
   From: Larry Cottrell (lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com) 
  Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 12:58 AM
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  Subject: another video
   
 
   Yesterday I inadvertently posted that I was going to check for some  Elk, so today I did so. None were to be found! I took some video anyway, and  figured I would share. From the looks of things you are not having very nice  weather in the East, but it was nice here today. A bit cool 42 degrees when I  took off.   
  https://vimeo.com/156633142   password owyheeflyer
   
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				 Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:45 am    Post subject: another video | 
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				All right Patrick!!   Did you mother call you by your proper name     when you were a bad boy!!         Herb 
      
      On 02/25/2016 04:05 AM, Patrick Ladd       wrote:
      
       	  | Quote: | 	 		                             Nice video as always. Thanks. pity about the elk. Still,             they are not very bright and have probably gone off to vote             for Trump!!!.  Pat
                                         
                                 From: Larry Cottrell (lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com)                 
                  Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 12:58 AM
                  To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)                 
                  Subject: another video
                
              
               
            
                         Yesterday I inadvertently posted that I was               going to check for some Elk, so today I did so. None were               to be found! I took some video anyway, and figured I would               share. From the looks of things you are not having very               nice weather in the East, but it was nice here today. A               bit cool 42 degrees when I took off.                
                https://vimeo.com/156633142                  password owyheeflyer
                 
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				 Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:32 am    Post subject: another video | 
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				Excellent video Larry, as usual!
  
  
  Kurt
  
  
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  Sent from my iPhone
  
  On Feb 24, 2016, at 18:03, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com (lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
  
  
   	  | Quote: | 	 		    Yesterday I inadvertently posted that I was going to check for some Elk, so today I did so. None were to be found! I took some video anyway, and figured I would share. From the looks of things you are not having very nice weather in the East,  but it was nice here today. A bit cool 42 degrees when I took off. 
  
  https://vimeo.com/156633142  password owyheeflyer
  
  
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				 Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:54 am    Post subject: another video | 
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				The fact that our situation has gotten to the point where Trump or Hillary are the two most viable candidates to lead the nation.... THAT is the larger problem. It's a significant failure of both the Democratic and Republican party systems that they could not put forth a Kennedy, or a Reagan, or an Eisenhower, or a Truman.
 
 Anyway, with that off my chest, I'm waiting for my Firestar kit to arrive, and I can't wait to get started on it. Can anyone here tell me which is the best or best compromise choice for wheels brakes and tires, for my particular intended use? I will be building up this Firestar specifically as an off-airport, back country, extreme STOL aircraft to explore small landing areas. I want to do the hilltops, and small mountain meadows, and dirt trails, the small clearings, etc. So for this I need large tires and good brakes.
 
 Which combinations of wheels/brakes/tires have been successful on the Kolb aircraft for this type of mission?
 
 Bill Berle
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 On Thu, 2/25/16, Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com> wrote:
 
  Subject: Re: another video
  To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
  Date: Thursday, February 25, 2016, 4:45 AM
  
  
      All right Patrick!!   Did you mother call you by your
  proper name
      when you were a bad boy!!         Herb 
  
      
  
      On 02/25/2016 04:05 AM,
  Patrick Ladd
        wrote:
  
      
      
        
          
            Nice video as always. Thanks. pity about the
  elk. Still,
              they are not very bright and have probably gone
  off to vote
              for Trump!!!.  Pat
            
              
                 
                
                  From: Larry
  Cottrell
                  
                  Sent: Thursday, February 25,
  2016 12:58 AM
                  To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
                  
                  Subject: another
  video
                
              
               
            
            
              Yesterday I inadvertently posted
  that I was
                going to check for some Elk, so today I did
  so. None were
                to be found! I took some video anyway, and
  figured I would
                share. From the looks of things you are not
  having very
                nice weather in the East, but it was nice here
  today. A
                bit cool 42 degrees when I took off.
                 
                https://vimeo.com/156633142 
                  password owyheeflyer
                 
                Larry
  
                   
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				 Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:06 am    Post subject: another video | 
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				Bill,
 
 This is a very friendly forum and injecting politics into it is a sure 
 way to reduce that great quality.  Please keep your political opinions 
 at the poker table.  Thanks.
 
 Good luck building your Firestar.  There's lots of good advice to be had 
 here, so don't hesitate to ask.
 
 Dave Kulp
 Bethlehem, PA
 
 On 2/25/2016 12:53 PM, Bill Berle wrote:
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   
 
  The fact that our situation has gotten to the point where Trump or Hillary are the two most viable candidates to lead the nation.... THAT is the larger problem. It's a significant failure of both the Democratic and Republican party systems that they could not put forth a Kennedy, or a Reagan, or an Eisenhower, or a Truman.
 
  Anyway, with that off my chest, I'm waiting for my Firestar kit to arrive, and I can't wait to get started on it. Can anyone here tell me which is the best or best compromise choice for wheels brakes and tires, for my particular intended use? I will be building up this Firestar specifically as an off-airport, back country, extreme STOL aircraft to explore small landing areas. I want to do the hilltops, and small mountain meadows, and dirt trails, the small clearings, etc. So for this I need large tires and good brakes.
 
  Which combinations of wheels/brakes/tires have been successful on the Kolb aircraft for this type of mission?
 
  Bill Berle
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  On Thu, 2/25/16, Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com> wrote:
 
    Subject: Re: another video
    To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
    Date: Thursday, February 25, 2016, 4:45 AM
    
    
        All right Patrick!!   Did you mother call you by your
    proper name
        when you were a bad boy!!         Herb
    
        
    
        On 02/25/2016 04:05 AM,
    Patrick Ladd
          wrote:
    
        
        
          
            
              Nice video as always. Thanks. pity about the
    elk. Still,
                they are not very bright and have probably gone
    off to vote
                for Trump!!!.  Pat
              
                
                   
                  
                    From: Larry
    Cottrell
                    
                    Sent: Thursday, February 25,
    2016 12:58 AM
                    To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
                    
                    Subject: another
    video
                  
                
                 
              
              
                Yesterday I inadvertently posted
    that I was
                  going to check for some Elk, so today I did
    so. None were
                  to be found! I took some video anyway, and
    figured I would
                  share. From the looks of things you are not
    having very
                  nice weather in the East, but it was nice here
    today. A
                  bit cool 42 degrees when I took off.
                   
                  https://vimeo.com/156633142
                    password owyheeflyer
                   
                  Larry
    
                     
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				 Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:00 am    Post subject: another video | 
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				One of the tire companies is now making "tundra tires" that will fit on the 6 inch rims that most are using. There was a recent (last 6 months) I think from Nick Cassara about them. Fairly spendy however. I have 800 x 6 on my firestar with the tires secured by screws so that I can run 6 lbs of air. Other wise the tires spin when you land and shear off the valve stems. I personally prefer individual brakes, and a breakaway tail wheel. You will also need to brace the tail post, so that it can withstand the pressures put on it by the individual braking.
 
  I have 6 inch mech brakes, and it seems to be able to do the job for me. I got on them a bit hard last year and it caused the plane to do little jumps as it was bouncing the plane back up in the air. So I know that I get all the braking that I need. I would prefer ?possibly? the hydrallic ones but that requires buying two entire systems to have individual. 
 
 You will of course need VG's, and for that I would recommend JC Gilpin.  
   http://www.stolspeed.com/
 Then of course you will need the 36 inch long tempered steel gear legs, making sure that you have the heavy duty axle fittings.
 I also recommend a Spot tracking unit, so that if worse comes to worse they will know where to find you.
 That will give you the best possibility to survive what you plan to do. The only other thing that you will need is training, and some pretty big cahones.
 Larry
 
 On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net (victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net)> wrote:
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  Anyway, with that off my chest, I'm waiting for my Firestar kit to arrive, and I can't wait to get started on it. Can anyone here tell me which is the best or best compromise choice for wheels brakes and tires, for my particular intended use? I will be building up this Firestar specifically as an off-airport, back country, extreme STOL aircraft to explore small landing areas. I want to do the hilltops, and small mountain meadows, and dirt trails, the small clearings, etc. So for this I need large tires and good brakes.
  
  Which combinations of wheels/brakes/tires have been successful on the Kolb aircraft for this type of mission?
  
 Bill
  
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				 Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:39 am    Post subject: another video | 
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				Larry how do you put screws into the tires without puncturing the inner tube, or generating cracks in the rim? If I'm seeing your photo right, are you flying your FS up there in NV someplace? Where are you based?
 
 I am planning on VG's (I know, I know... some people think they work and others don't), and I am planning on an aluminum sheeted leading edge, and some other STOL mods bouncing around in my head.
 
 Larry does your FS have flaperons, or separate flaps, or no flap features?
 
 I do have a little bit of training already, although it is not the formal back country training like you can take classes in Idaho. I was once a sailplane racer in the western US, and I've had my share of off-airport landings in the gilders, in some really strange places (like the helicopter pad at the USMC Mountain Warfare training facility in Bridgeport). I will be starting off a little conservatively, especially since it will be a new type of aircraft for me.
 
 Tell me about bracing the tailpost... braced in which direction, and braced to what?
 
 Bill Berle
 www.ezflaphandle.com  - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
 www.grantstar.net           - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
 
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 On Thu, 2/25/16, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> wrote:
 
  Subject: Re: another video
  To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com" <kolb-list(at)matronics.com>
  Date: Thursday, February 25, 2016, 11:00 AM
  
  One of the tire
  companies is now making "tundra tires" that will
  fit on the 6 inch rims that most are using. There was a
  recent (last 6 months) I think from Nick Cassara about them.
  Fairly spendy however. I have 800 x 6 on my firestar with
  the tires secured by screws so that I can run 6 lbs of air.
  Other wise the tires spin when you land and shear off the
  valve stems. I personally prefer individual brakes, and a
  breakaway tail wheel. You will also need to brace the tail
  post, so that it can withstand the pressures put on it by
  the individual braking.
   I have 6 inch mech brakes, and it seems to be
  able to do the job for me. I got on them a bit hard last
  year and it caused the plane to do little jumps as it was
  bouncing the plane back up in the air. So I know that I get
  all the braking that I need. I would prefer ?possibly? the
  hydrallic ones but that requires buying two entire systems
  to have individual. 
  You will of course need VG's, and for that I
  would recommend JC Gilpin.  
    http://www.stolspeed.com/
  Then of course you will need the 36 inch long
  tempered steel gear legs, making sure that you have the
  heavy duty axle fittings.
  I also recommend a Spot tracking unit, so that if
  worse comes to worse they will know where to find
  you.
  That will give you the best possibility to
  survive what you plan to do. The only other thing that you
  will need is training, and some pretty big
  cahones.Larry
  
  
  On Thu, Feb 25, 2016
  at 10:53 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net>
  wrote:
  -->
  Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net>
  
  
  
  
  Anyway, with that off my chest, I'm waiting for my
  Firestar kit to arrive, and I can't wait to get started
  on it. Can anyone here tell me which is the best or best
  compromise choice for wheels brakes and tires, for my
  particular intended use? I will be building up this Firestar
  specifically as an off-airport, back country, extreme STOL
  aircraft to explore small landing areas. I want to do the
  hilltops, and small mountain meadows, and dirt trails, the
  small clearings, etc. So for this I need large tires and
  good brakes.
  
  
  
  Which combinations of wheels/brakes/tires have been
  successful on the Kolb aircraft for this type of mission?
  
  
  Bill
  
  
  
  
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  tolerant I am of those who are
  intolerant.
  If you forward this email, or any part of
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				 Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:24 pm    Post subject: another video | 
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				http://www.jegs.com/p/JEGS-Performance-Products/JEGS-Wheel-Rim-to-Tire-Screw-Kit/756883/10002/-1  It was pointed out to me that you could get the screws cheaper than what I spent on these. YOu just need to have the right size drill bit because you want to cut some threads into the rim. I don't think you are going to have any problem with Alum rims cracking.
 The rim is aluminum, and the bead of the tire is big enough that the screws don't touch the tube. I did however use a washer between the screws and the rim to make sure. Almost all of the tundra tires are secured to the rim with screws.
 Firestar's do not have flaps or flaperons. I have been told that they don't need them.
 I don't know about alum leading edges and stuff, but the plane will perform better the lighter it is. Your decision of course.
 Disclaimer: I am not a "builder" as such. All and any advice is worth what you paid for it.
 Larry
 On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net (victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net)> wrote:
  	  | Quote: | 	 		  --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net (victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net)>
  
  Larry how do you put screws into the tires without puncturing the inner tube, or generating cracks in the rim? If I'm seeing your photo right, are you flying your FS up there in NV someplace? Where are you based?
  
  I am planning on VG's (I know, I know... some people think they work and others don't), and I am planning on an aluminum sheeted leading edge, and some other STOL mods bouncing around in my head.
  
  Larry does your FS have flaperons, or separate flaps, or no flap features?
  
  I do have a little bit of training already, although it is not the formal back country training like you can take classes in Idaho. I was once a sailplane racer in the western US, and I've had my share of off-airport landings in the gilders, in some really strange places (like the helicopter pad at the USMC Mountain Warfare training facility in Bridgeport). I will be starting off a little conservatively, especially since it will be a new type of aircraft for me.
  
  Tell me about bracing the tailpost... braced in which direction, and braced to what?
  
  Bill Berle
  www.ezflaphandle.com  - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
  www.grantstar.net           - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
  
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  On Thu, 2/25/16, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com (lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
  
   Subject: Re: another video
   To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)" <kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)>
   Date: Thursday, February 25, 2016, 11:00 AM
  
   One of the tire
   companies is now making "tundra tires" that will
   fit on the 6 inch rims that most are using. There was a
   recent (last 6 months) I think from Nick Cassara about them.
   Fairly spendy however. I have 800 x 6 on my firestar with
   the tires secured by screws so that I can run 6 lbs of air.
   Other wise the tires spin when you land and shear off the
   valve stems. I personally prefer individual brakes, and a
   breakaway tail wheel. You will also need to brace the tail
   post, so that it can withstand the pressures put on it by
   the individual braking.
    I have 6 inch mech brakes, and it seems to be
   able to do the job for me. I got on them a bit hard last
   year and it caused the plane to do little jumps as it was
   bouncing the plane back up in the air. So I know that I get
   all the braking that I need. I would prefer ?possibly? the
   hydrallic ones but that requires buying two entire systems
   to have individual. 
   You will of course need VG's, and for that I
   would recommend JC Gilpin.  
     http://www.stolspeed.com/
   Then of course you will need the 36 inch long
   tempered steel gear legs, making sure that you have the
   heavy duty axle fittings.
   I also recommend a Spot tracking unit, so that if
   worse comes to worse they will know where to find
   you.
   That will give you the best possibility to
   survive what you plan to do. The only other thing that you
   will need is training, and some pretty big
   cahones.Larry
  
  
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   Anyway, with that off my chest, I'm waiting for my
   Firestar kit to arrive, and I can't wait to get started
   on it. Can anyone here tell me which is the best or best
   compromise choice for wheels brakes and tires, for my
   particular intended use? I will be building up this Firestar
   specifically as an off-airport, back country, extreme STOL
   aircraft to explore small landing areas. I want to do the
   hilltops, and small mountain meadows, and dirt trails, the
   small clearings, etc. So for this I need large tires and
   good brakes.
  
  
  
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   successful on the Kolb aircraft for this type of mission?
  
  
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				These are the largest tires I could find for a 6" rim.  There may be some that are larger in diameter but they are also much wider and width causes a lot of drag for little or no improvement on the ground.  This tire comes in two versions.  One with a full set of treads and one that is considerably lighter and has a lot of the rubber removed from the tread.
 
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				These tires ( Buffed smooth) are actually about 4 pounds lighter than the 800 x6 that I currently have on my plane. They will also make your wallet a lot lighter as well.Larry 
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  These are the largest tires I could find for a 6" rim.  There may be some that are larger in diameter but they are also much wider and width causes a lot of drag for little or no improvement on the ground.  This tire comes in two versions.  One with a full set of treads and one that is considerably lighter and has a lot of the rubber removed from the tread.
  
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				I agree.  Doubt I'd pay that much money for someone to wear the tread off my tire.
  
 I have run 8x6 air trac ribs for many, many hours and made many, many landings.  Still have a lot of life left in them.  I don't notice the weight.  Have enough horses note to have to worry about a couple pounds here and there.  I run 6 psi in mine without screws, but the MATCO rims grab much better than the rims Larry C is using.
  
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 These tires ( Buffed smooth) are actually about 4 pounds lighter than the 800 x6 that I currently have on my plane. They will also make your wallet a lot lighter as well.
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