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		JOHN TIPTON
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:52 am    Post subject: carling s700 (another question) | 
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				Sorry to hijack the thread ---
 But while were are talking switches: I thought I could sort any 2-10 wiring out: but I have a problem, is it possible to wire this 'wig-wag' device 
 http://www.periheliondesign.com/wigwagmnl.htm
 to give me, with a three position switch: Off - on (both) - wig-wag
 with a 2-10 or any switch for that matter
 Regards
 John
 
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 On 30 Apr 2016, at 08:18 pm, "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)> wrote:
  	  | Quote: | 	 		    At 07:09 AM 4/30/2016, you wrote:
   	  | Quote: | 	 		  For some reason I am really getting confused about the.  Batt/master switch and how it is wired.  I am using a clarling toggle,  S2077 I believe. It has three positions.  I think this switch is a On/On/On type.  You want one position for everything off.  One for Battery only and one for Battery and Alternator.  When I look at the diagram of the switch for page Z-11 it appears that one position connects the Battery only, one connects the battery and the Alt. and one is off. It appears that the one position connects with Term 3 and six which are used as the off position.
 
  Am I even close on this ? | 	  
    Z13/8 doesn't show a progressive transfer battery
    master. It shows a simple DC master ON/OFF wherein
    the alternator can be disabled by pulling the field
    breaker. The switch called out is the simple
    DPDT/ON-ON S700-2-3 device (B&C part number)
 
  <8b672cc.jpg> 
 
    
    Figure Z-11 shows the progressive transfer
    S700-2-10 switch that emulated the split rocker
    switch popularized on many single engine aircraft
    over the years.
  <8b67339.jpg> 
    
    Examination of the schematic symbol illustrates
    internal functionality of the DP3T/ON-ON-ON
    device.
 
    EITHER style of switch can be used . . .
    
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		user9253
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:24 pm    Post subject: Re: carling s700 (another question) | 
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				It seems that you want to wire the wig wag as shown in Eric's diagram "B".
 You can use a DP3T  ON-ON-ON switch as shown in the diagram.  Down position will be off.  Mouser part number 633-M204401.  Do NOT use the 2-10 progressive transfer switch.  
 Or you can use a 3 position ON-OFF-ON DPDT switch with center off.
 Make sure there are no parentheses  in the ON-OFF-ON description because parentheses indicate a momentary switch position.
 
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		Bob McC
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:59 pm    Post subject: carling s700 (another question) | 
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				Diagram “B” on the page you linked gives the operation you’ve described.  
    
 Bob McC  
            
   
 From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Tipton
  Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 3:51 PM
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  Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: carling s700 (another question)  
   
      
 Sorry to hijack the thread ---  
     
    
     
 But while were are talking switches: I thought I could sort any 2-10 wiring out: but I have a problem, is it possible to wire this 'wig-wag' device   
     
    
     
 http://www.periheliondesign.com/wigwagmnl.htm  
     
 
  
    
       
 to give me, with a three position switch: Off - on (both) - wig-wag  
     
 
  
    
       
 with a 2-10 or any switch for that matter  
     
 
  
    
       
 Regards  
     
 
  
    
       
 John
  
  Sent from my iPad    
    
     
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  On 30 Apr 2016, at 08:18 pm, "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)> wrote:  
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 At 07:09 AM 4/30/2016, you wrote:
  
    
 For some reason I am really getting confused about the.  Batt/master switch and how it is wired.  I am using a clarling toggle,  S2077 I believe. It has three positions.  I think this switch is a On/On/On type.  You want one position for everything off.  One for Battery only and one for Battery and Alternator.  When I look at the diagram of the switch for page Z-11 it appears that one position connects the Battery only, one connects the battery and the Alt. and one is off. It appears that the one position connects with Term 3 and six which are used as the off position.
  
  Am I even close on this ?  
 
    Z13/8 doesn't show a progressive transfer battery
    master. It shows a simple DC master ON/OFF wherein
    the alternator can be disabled by pulling the field
    breaker. The switch called out is the simple
    DPDT/ON-ON S700-2-3 device (B&C part number)
  
  <8b672cc.jpg> 
  
    
    Figure Z-11 shows the progressive transfer
    S700-2-10 switch that emulated the split rocker
    switch popularized on many single engine aircraft
    over the years.
  <8b67339.jpg> 
    
    Examination of the schematic symbol illustrates
    internal functionality of the DP3T/ON-ON-ON
    device.
  
    EITHER style of switch can be used . . .  
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