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 Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:58 pm Post subject: Kolb Slingshot Project |
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Kolbers, can anyone tell me whether the Slingshot is one of the more or less desirable of the Kolb line? I know it was the clipped wing "hot rod" of the Kolb line, for more experienced pilots. Higher speeds and probably more sporty handling. Not as much STOL performance as the long wing models.
Yes, yes, there is a reason for this inquiry. I'm taking in a damaged but easily rebuildable Slingshot airframe (no engine/prop) as part of a larger trade. My question for the group is whether this is something that there will be a lot of interest in, or not as much interest as a Firefly, Firestar, Kolbra, etc.
This particular aircraft has damage to both wings but the damage is reasonably minor. I do NOT believe the spars are bent, several of the wing ribs are bent. The ailerons are slightly bent, but easily repairable.The fiberglass nose is un-usable. Steel fuselage cage, tailboom, tail surfaces, engine mount, etc.all appear to be good. Flaperon system is there. Canopy enclosure is there but dirty. Aircraft was hangared before and since the damage, always located in the dry NV desert.
Wing Struts, landing gear, fuel tanks, and instruments are missing. No paperwork or logbooks, but an N number does exist so you can probably get a replacement airworthiness certificate from the feds. I will be able to see the cage serial number when I go pick it up this weekend.
Not having seen it yet (pictures will be forthcoming in a few days) ASSUMING my brief description is accurate, can anyone here still take a guess whether this rebuild project is worth $$$ X, Y, or Z??? Will the experienced Kolb people be elbowing each other out of the way to get at this?
Of course I will formally advertise it on this list first, to give the group members first shot at it.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
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On Wed, 3/8/17, John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> wrote:
Subject: RE: Re: Ultraster Rib Stampings info wanted
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, March 8, 2017, 3:02 PM
"John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
US main spar attachment on inboard rib had little torsional
resistance.
Huge barn door full span ailerons would twist the wing and
cancel out the
aileron input. Could not be ham fisted or fly the US
aggressively in roll.
That really bothered me when I first started flying my
US. My US was the
first fixed wing I had ever flown. I was used to
rotary wing input and
results. First time I dove on my house and tried to
pull out with a big
wingover the US kept right on heading for the lake. I
had a lot to learn
about flying Kolbs.
My original FS had the new ring main spar attach system with
minimal wing
twist. What a great improvement.
I was upset about the US wing twist until I talked with an
old AF bomber
pilot and his experience with wing twist. Seems he
flew the B-47 for a
spell and had the same wing twist problem with it as I did
my little UL. I
felt a little better after I discovered that. He said
aileron input
promptly canceled out with wing twist. Had to be
gentle flying the B-47.
john h
mkIII
Titus, AL
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Herbgh(at)nctc.com
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:09 pm Post subject: Kolb Slingshot Project |
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I may be wrong ,, but I think building and flying a Slingshot was the
impetus that caused Bruce Chestnut to buy the company... .
I bought the red one that may still be on the Kolb site. Came from
the Somerset Ky area...500 hour 582 so I let it sit in the barn til
someone came along....went to Indiana or Ill as I recall..By the
way...those 500 + hours were on a B box with a Warp drive...??? Herb
On 03/08/2017 05:56 PM, Bill Berle wrote:
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Kolbers, can anyone tell me whether the Slingshot is one of the more or less desirable of the Kolb line? I know it was the clipped wing "hot rod" of the Kolb line, for more experienced pilots. Higher speeds and probably more sporty handling. Not as much STOL performance as the long wing models.
Yes, yes, there is a reason for this inquiry. I'm taking in a damaged but easily rebuildable Slingshot airframe (no engine/prop) as part of a larger trade. My question for the group is whether this is something that there will be a lot of interest in, or not as much interest as a Firefly, Firestar, Kolbra, etc.
This particular aircraft has damage to both wings but the damage is reasonably minor. I do NOT believe the spars are bent, several of the wing ribs are bent. The ailerons are slightly bent, but easily repairable.The fiberglass nose is un-usable. Steel fuselage cage, tailboom, tail surfaces, engine mount, etc.all appear to be good. Flaperon system is there. Canopy enclosure is there but dirty. Aircraft was hangared before and since the damage, always located in the dry NV desert.
Wing Struts, landing gear, fuel tanks, and instruments are missing. No paperwork or logbooks, but an N number does exist so you can probably get a replacement airworthiness certificate from the feds. I will be able to see the cage serial number when I go pick it up this weekend.
Not having seen it yet (pictures will be forthcoming in a few days) ASSUMING my brief description is accurate, can anyone here still take a guess whether this rebuild project is worth $$$ X, Y, or Z??? Will the experienced Kolb people be elbowing each other out of the way to get at this?
Of course I will formally advertise it on this list first, to give the group members first shot at it.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
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On Wed, 3/8/17, John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> wrote:
Subject: RE: Re: Ultraster Rib Stampings info wanted
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, March 8, 2017, 3:02 PM
"John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
US main spar attachment on inboard rib had little torsional
resistance.
Huge barn door full span ailerons would twist the wing and
cancel out the
aileron input. Could not be ham fisted or fly the US
aggressively in roll.
That really bothered me when I first started flying my
US. My US was the
first fixed wing I had ever flown. I was used to
rotary wing input and
results. First time I dove on my house and tried to
pull out with a big
wingover the US kept right on heading for the lake. I
had a lot to learn
about flying Kolbs.
My original FS had the new ring main spar attach system with
minimal wing
twist. What a great improvement.
I was upset about the US wing twist until I talked with an
old AF bomber
pilot and his experience with wing twist. Seems he
flew the B-47 for a
spell and had the same wing twist problem with it as I did
my little UL. I
felt a little better after I discovered that. He said
aileron input
promptly canceled out with wing twist. Had to be
gentle flying the B-47.
john h
mkIII
Titus, AL
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John Hauck
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Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:30 pm Post subject: Kolb Slingshot Project |
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I flew Bruce's SS at London, Lakeland, and Oshkosh. Had a 912S with red valve covers then. Was a nice airplane and fun to fly.
I also flew the original SS from old Kolb at Lakeland and Oshkosh. It had a 582 and performed well with that engine. One year at Lakeland I put a professional video cameraman and his huge camera in the back of the SS. He had to rest the front of the camera on my right shoulder. We rung the SS out chasing cows and alligators. It did a good job two up.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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