Matronics Email Lists :: View topic

Matronics Email Lists
Web Forum Interface to the Matronics Email Lists

Get Email Distribution Too! FAQ Search Memberlist Usergroups Register

Profile Log in to check your private messages Log in

Low Fuel Warning

Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> Kitfox-List

View previous topic :: View next topic

Author Message

algate(at)attglobal.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:23 pm Post subject: Low Fuel Warning

Sorry to rehash old subjects but I know that a lot of the Kitfoxes with wing

tanks only use a low fuel warning device mounted on the small header tank.

Can I get info/ pricing and contact for this device.



Regards 

Gary Algate

pwmac(at)sisna.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:20 pm Post subject: Low Fuel Warning

I bought mine from either Wicks or ACS. It screws in place of the 

brass fitting. Compatible with alcohol and gasoline.

Very inexpensive float switch to turn on a red light on your panel.

Paul

==============

At 02:25 PM 7/11/2006, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  



Sorry to rehash old subjects but I know that a lot of the Kitfoxes with wing

tanks only use a low fuel warning device mounted on the small header tank.

Can I get info/ pricing and contact for this device.



Regards

Gary Algate

shericom(at)rogers.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject: Low Fuel Warning

Gary, You will find one by going to www.murlewilliamsaviation.com in his online catalog for $95.00 US, I am thinking of ordering one my self, let me know if you find anything better, Don



Don Stevenson, Caledon, Ontario

M4/1200 Speedster-912UL



---

algate(at)attglobal.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:14 am Post subject: Low Fuel Warning

Thanks Don  

   

Gary  

         

  

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donald STEVENSON

 Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:37 PM

 To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Low Fuel Warning  

  

       

Gary, You will find one by going to www.murlewilliamsaviation.com in his online catalog for $95.00 US, I am thinking of ordering one my self, let me know if you find anything better, Don

 

 Don Stevenson, Caledon, Ontario

 M4/1200 Speedster-912UL    

----- Original Message ----

 w:st="on">kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:25:41 PM

    

--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Algate" <algate(at)attglobal.net>

 

 Sorry to rehash old subjects but I know that a lot of the Kitfoxes

msm_9949(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:12 am Post subject: Low Fuel Warning

Hi Gary.

   

  I got mine (float type) from ACS. I think it cost about $25. An orange LED indicator light for the panel was $2-3 from Radio Shack. Easy to install and works great! Indicator lights up with about 15 min of fuel left. I'm thinking of adding an audio waring as well. 



Donald STEVENSON <shericom(at)rogers.com> wrote:

  [quote]        Gary, You will find one by going to www.murlewilliamsaviation.com in his online catalog for $95.00 US, I am thinking of ordering one my self, let me know if you find anything better, Don



Don Stevenson,  Caledon, Ontario

M4/1200 Speedster-912UL



  ---

dave(at)cfisher.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:49 am Post subject: Low Fuel Warning

Marco the Navman has a alarm setting as well.   

  

 You punch in total fuel and set the alarm at where  you want it to go off and it goes off after that amount of fuel has gone  through. 

 I set mine at 14 litres and total fuel  at  70 litres and when the fuel flow hits 14.5 the audible alarm goes off  and with a 582 running and headset on I can clearly hear it .   

  

 Now it is not by actual fuel but by virtual fuel  calculated by the Navman which does seem very accurate.    

 I also have windows in both fuel tanks and the dash  tank to be able to see the fuel level at all times. 

  

 I also use a calibrated dip stick for wing tanks  that I dip to confirm the fuel  level. But this will do you no good if you  leave a gas cap loose and all of your fuel gets siphoned out.

  

  

 Dave

  

  

 [quote]   ---

lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:56 am Post subject: Low Fuel Warning

Sitting here doing something else, I thought of this system and remembered a 

recent report from the Lancair list.



First, I like the translucent fuel tanks that show fuel remaining as you 

note or the sight gauges or even looking at the transparent vent line.  This 

would have helped the Lancair pilot avoid his surprise.



The Lancair list story goes like this:



 A guy with a fuel monitor reports that he had been using his fuel burn and 

hours left for his fuel management.  After his last flight - bringing his 

airpland home from servicing where it had been for about two weeks.  The 

long cross country flight was uneventful, and upon arrival at his home field 

he refuels.  I don't remember his reported fuel capacity, but he loaded fuel 

to within a few gallons of that capacity.  This amount didn't correspond 

with the fuel monitor and after some thinking he realized that the 

difference was exactly five gallons.  He strongly suspects that during his 

airplane's stay at the repair shop, someone short of cash, integrety, and 

brains simply drained five gallons of his gas into a can for use elsewhere.



Another list member then reported on an airplane readying for flight that 

was discovered during the preflight to be bone dry.  Apparently the high 

price of fuel has brought out the "Midnight Entrepreneurs".



The Lancair List then had the expected long semi flaming session about what 

constitutes a proper fuel assessment during the preflight and the relative 

distribution of brains in that group.



Another reason to be careful with too much reliance on fuel totalizers has 

to do with the last homeward flight from the Desert Fox fly-in when the line 

boy didn't get my fuel cap on squarely and I had almost a full tank of fuel 

sucked out before I noticed anything amis.



Be careful with too much reliance on these devices that calculate fuel 

remaining based on only what it knows - fuel added and fuel flow - there may 

be other factors that may come into play.



Also be careful with to much reliance on others that are servicing our 

airplanes.   I sure learned from my experience.  The cap was on and pointed 

in the right direction, but only one tang was engaged.



Lowell



---

dave(at)cfisher.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:22 pm Post subject: Low Fuel Warning

Lowell,



I learned many years ago as part of my walkaround that when at tail of plane 

to look forward and check gas caps and make sure they are there in in right 

position visually.  After a  refueling -same thing walkaround look at tail, 

make sure tailwheel still there etc  and look forward to gas caps.   The low 

pressure on top of wings will drain your tanks very quickly if the cap comes 

off.  I would only gues that a poor sealing cap "might " do the same.

Dave



---

mike
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: Low Fuel Warning

I do one better, I put my hand on each fuel cap and wiggle it to make sure not only is it on, but that is on proper before climbing into the cockpit. I grab the vent on the fox and gentley tug on them.  It's turned into a habit that I don't forget.  So far I've left the cap off once.  Glad I do this.

mike
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: Low Fuel Warning

Oh, and for the reply for the nighttime theifs, I always pull the caps and look inside for the fuel level, big habit also.

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject: Low Fuel Warning

Anybody else blow through the vent to be sure no critters are setting 

up housekeeping?



Lynn

p.s. yes, I use fuel vent covers, and a pitot cover, but now and then I 

forget to put 'em on...and no, I don't blow into the pitot tube. : )

On Wednesday, July 12, 2006, at 04:41  PM, kitfoxmike wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 I do one better, I put my hand on each fuel cap and wiggle it to make 

 sure not only is it on, but that is on proper before climbing into the 

 cockpit. I grab the vent on the fox and gentley tug on them.  It's 

 turned into a habit that I don't forget.  So far I've left the cap off 

 once.  Glad I do this.



 --------

 kitfoxmike

 kitfox4 1200 912ul speedster

 http://www.frappr.com/kitfoxmike





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=46740#46740

_________________
Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject: Low Fuel Warning

Due to reasons of transporting my plane on floats I defuel the plane after

every flight.  On one occasion I forgot to replace the fuel cap on the right

wing.  Now I check the caps before flying and before towing.



I have made mention of the next point on other lists.  That is the value of

the post flight inspection.  As soon after flying as is practical I do a

post flight inspection.  That way if there is anything that I noticed not to

be 100% in flight I can fix it before the next flight.  This post-flight

inspection is done in addition to, not instead of a pre-flight inspection.

I do the post-flight inspection not as a time saver but as an extra edge on

the side of safety.  Some times I have felt a rush to get a pre-flight done.

At that point I usually make a decision to spend a specific period of time

on my pre-flight so nothing will be overlooked.  



In Canada, the Department of Transportation publishes the twelve deadly sins

for AMEs (Aircraft Maintenance Engineers)  One of those Deadly sins is

pressure to rush a job.  When I was doing my flight lessons on just about

every lesson I would find something that required attention before the next

flight.  The CFI complimented me on the thoroughness of my inspections.

After several weeks I think the maintenance staff started paying more

attention to the aircraft because it became increasingly difficult to find

faults.



Noel



[quote] --

bnn(at)nethere.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:22 am Post subject: Low Fuel Warning

At 11:55 AM 7/12/2006, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  The Lancair List then had the expected long semi flaming session about what

constitutes a proper fuel assessment during the preflight and the relative

distribution of brains in that group.


	


ROFLOL!



I see you enjoy the Lancair list in much the same way I do. I'm very glad 

the Kitfox list has less, ahem, "capable" pilots. (They're certainly more 

civil.)

Guy Buchanan

K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.



Do not archive

Display posts from previous:

	Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> Kitfox-List	All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

Jump to:

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum