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dan(at)syz.com
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:24 pm Post subject: Slick magneto maintenance

Hi everyone.



When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with (66LR37SCNN and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so I've been treating them as something of a black box that I haven't wanted to fiddle with as they work well.  But that's hardly the right attitude to have for an experimental aircraft   In particular, from what I understand, the magneto breaker points should be checked periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well as engine timing, etc.  And precious little (ie: no) documentation came with them.



Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how to do this?  Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually removing the magnetos themselves.  Though eventually, I know they're going to have to be pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my pocket the right way to put them back.



Thanks!



Dan

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rleffler

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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:44 am Post subject: Slick magneto maintenance

https://www.amazon.com/Magneto-Ignition-System-John-Schwaner/dp/B0006P6ZLW

 

 

 This book can be hard to find, but it appears that Amazon has hard copies.   There is also an electronic version on google play.

 

 

 

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  --> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Charrois <dan(at)syz.com>

 

 Hi everyone.

 

 When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with (66LR37SCNN and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so I've been treating them as something of a black box that I haven't wanted to fiddle with as they work well.  But that's hardly  the right attitude to have for an experimental aircraft   In particular, from what I understand, the magneto breaker points should be checked periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well as engine timing, etc.  And precious little (ie: no)  documentation came with them.

 

 Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how to do this?  Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually removing the magnetos themselves.  Though eventually, I know they're going to have to be pulled, and when that happens  I'd rather have in my pocket the right way to put them back.

 

 Thanks!

 

 Dan

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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:43 am Post subject: Slick magneto maintenance

For what it is worth, common practice for Slicks has been to have a 

competent magneto shop do an inspect and repair as necessary at 500 

hours, and to buy new mags at 1000 hours. Main reason is cost of by the 

book overhaul can exceed price of new. Typically the 500 hour will 

replace points and maybe a few other items, and the mags will be 

reliable for the 2nd 500 hours. There are some service bulletins that 

call for 500 hour inspection, which you don't have to do, but it is 

generally a good idea, and is required on some certified engines used in 

commercial operations.



On 12/4/2017 11:23 PM, Dan Charrois wrote:

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 Hi everyone.

 

 When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with (66LR37SCNN and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so I've been treating them as something of a black box that I haven't wanted to fiddle with as they work well.  But that's hardly the right attitude to have for an experimental aircraft   In particular, from what I understand, the magneto breaker points should be checked periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well as engine timing, etc.  And precious little (ie: no) documentation came with them.

 

 Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how to do this?  Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually removing the magnetos themselves.  Though eventually, I know they're going to have to be pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my pocket the right way to put them back.

 

 Thanks!

 

 Dan

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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:49 am Post subject: Slick magneto maintenance

I don't know if you just meant physical copies rather than hard 

cover....I don't think I have ever seen it in anything but paperback.

I have a copy. It is informative and useful, but not exactly a 

maintenance or overhaul manual.

Kelly

Unfortunately when Sacramento Skyranch closed its business, John 

Schwaner's publishing of the magneto book, engine book and Mechanics 

Toolbox CD seemed to also disappear. I have and use all three.



On 12/5/2017 2:43 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   https://www.amazon.com/Magneto-Ignition-System-John-Schwaner/dp/B0006P6ZLW

 

 This book can be hard to find, but it appears that Amazon has hard 

 copies.   There is also an electronic version on google play.

 

 Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

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 <owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com> on behalf of Dan Charrois 

 <dan(at)syz.com>

 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:23:20 AM

 *To:* RV10-List Digest Server

 *Subject:* Slick magneto maintenance

 

 

 Hi everyone.

 

 When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with 

 (66LR37SCNN and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so 

 I've been treating them as something of a black box that I haven't 

 wanted to fiddle with as they work well.  But that's hardly the right 

 attitude to have for an experimental aircraft   In particular, from 

 what I understand, the magneto breaker points should be checked 

 periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well as engine 

 timing, etc.  And precious little (ie: no) documentation came with them.

 

 Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how 

 to do this?  Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually 

 removing the magnetos themselves.  Though eventually, I know they're 

 going to have to be pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my 

 pocket the right way to put them back.

 

 Thanks!

 

 Dan

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 President, Syzygy Research & Technology

 Phone: 780-961-2213

 

 

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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:34 am Post subject: Slick magneto maintenance

See  		 	 	 		 			 				 					

L-1363F 4300/6300 Series Magneto Maintenance and Overhaul Manual 		 	 	 		

 Do not archive  					

 				

 			

 		

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		  On Dec 5, 2017, at 5:47 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com (kellym(at)aviating.com)> wrote:

--> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com (kellym(at)aviating.com)>I don't know if you just meant physical copies rather than hard cover....I don't think I have ever seen it in anything but paperback.I have a copy. It is informative and useful, but not exactly a maintenance or overhaul manual.KellyUnfortunately when Sacramento Skyranch closed its business, John Schwaner's publishing of the magneto book, engine book and Mechanics Toolbox CD seemed to also disappear. I have and use all three.On 12/5/2017 2:43 AM, Bob Leffler wrote: 	  Quote: 	
		  owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) <owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)> on behalf of Dan Charrois <dan(at)syz.com (dan(at)syz.com)>*Sent:* Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:23:20 AM*To:* RV10-List Digest Server*Subject:* Slick magneto maintenance--> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Charrois <dan(at)syz.com (dan(at)syz.com)>Hi everyone.When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with (66LR37SCNN and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so I've been treating them as something of a black box that I haven't wanted to fiddle with as they work well.  But that's hardly the right attitude to have for an experimental aircraft   In particular, from what I understand, the magneto breaker points should be checked periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well as engine timing, etc.  And precious little (ie: no) documentation came with them.Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how to do this?  Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually removing the magnetos themselves.  Though eventually, I know they're going to have to be pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my pocket the right way to put them back.Thanks!Dan---Dan CharroisPresident, Syzygy Research & TechnologyPhone: 780-961-2213===========Email Forum --List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List===========p;   - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -ums.matronics.com===========p;  - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI -matronics.com===========p; - List Contribution Web Site -p;                  -Matt Dralle, List Admin.http://www.matronics.com/contribution=========== 	
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Lenny Iszak

Joined: 23 Mar 2008
Posts: 270

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:45 am Post subject: Slick magneto maintenance

Tim did an excellent writeup on mag timing based on the Sac Skyranch instructions, adding his comments explaining it further.



Hereâ€™s a link:

http://www.myrv10.com/tips/maintenance/Mag_Timing/tims_slick_timing_info.html

Lenny





On Dec 5, 2017, at 1:23 AM, Dan Charrois <dan(at)syz.com (dan(at)syz.com)> wrote:

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		  --> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Charrois <dan(at)syz.com (dan(at)syz.com)>



Hi everyone.



When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with (66LR37SCNN and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so I've been treating them as something of a black box that I haven't wanted to fiddle with as they work well.  But that's hardly the right attitude to have for an experimental aircraft   In particular, from what I understand, the magneto breaker points should be checked periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well as engine timing, etc.  And precious little (ie: no) documentation came with them.



Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how to do this?  Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually removing the magnetos themselves.  Though eventually, I know they're going to have to be pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my pocket the right way to put them back.



Thanks!



Dan

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2014 RV-10, N311LZ - 500 hrs

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2882

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:26 am Post subject: Slick magneto maintenance

Anyone have this in .pdf I can get?  I just checked and I have L-1363C, 

so I'd just like to update.

Tim





On 12/05/2017 08:33 AM, Rob Kermanj wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   See

 

 L-1363F 4300/6300 Series Magneto Maintenance and Overhaul Manual

 

   Do not archive

Lenny Iszak

Joined: 23 Mar 2008
Posts: 270

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:23 am Post subject: Slick magneto maintenance

Found it here:



http://veteranflyg.se/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Slick-4300_6300-Overhaul-Manual-L-1363F.pdf



Lenny



 	  Quote: 	
		   On Dec 5, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Anyone have this in .pdf I can get?  I just checked and I have L-1363C, so I'd just like to update.

 Tim

 

 

 

 

 On 12/05/2017 08:33 AM, Rob Kermanj wrote:

> See

> L-1363F 4300/6300 Series Magneto Maintenance and Overhaul Manual

>  Do not archive

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Lenny Iszak
Palm City, FL
2014 RV-10, N311LZ - 500 hrs

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2882

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:01 am Post subject: Slick magneto maintenance

Super, thanks a million!

I tried a whole pile of google hits and they all either wanted me to

sign up for something or they were fishy.

I skimmed this.  I found it funny that the whole revision

from D to E was just to change the company name from Unison to

Champion. So if you have D, you're pretty close to F.

Tim

On 12/05/2017 11:21 AM, Lenny Iszak wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Found it here:

 

 http://veteranflyg.se/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Slick-4300_6300-Overhaul-Manual-L-1363F.pdf

 

 Lenny

dan(at)syz.com
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:38 pm Post subject: Slick magneto maintenance

Perfect - exactly what I was looking for!  Thanks a lot - mags are definitely something I want to approach with the proper documentation!



Dan



 	  Quote: 	
		   On 2017-Dec-05, at 7:33 AM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 

 See 

 L-1363F 4300/6300 Series Magneto Maintenance and Overhaul Manual

 

  Do not archive 

 

 

> On Dec 5, 2017, at 5:47 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:

> 

> 

> 

> I don't know if you just meant physical copies rather than hard cover....I don't think I have ever seen it in anything but paperback.

> I have a copy. It is informative and useful, but not exactly a maintenance or overhaul manual.

> Kelly

> Unfortunately when Sacramento Skyranch closed its business, John Schwaner's publishing of the magneto book, engine book and Mechanics Toolbox CD seemed to also disappear. I have and use all three.

> 

> On 12/5/2017 2:43 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:

>> https://www.amazon.com/Magneto-Ignition-System-John-Schwaner/dp/B0006P6ZLW

>> This book can be hard to find, but it appears that Amazon has hard copies.   There is also an electronic version on google play.

>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com> on behalf of Dan Charrois <dan(at)syz.com>

>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:23:20 AM

>> *To:* RV10-List Digest Server

>> *Subject:* Slick magneto maintenance

>> 

>> Hi everyone.

>> When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with (66LR37SCNN and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so I've been treating them as something of a black box that I haven't wanted to fiddle with as they work well.  But that's hardly the right attitude to have for an experimental aircraft   In particular, from what I understand, the magneto breaker points should be checked periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well as engine timing, etc.  And precious little (ie: no) documentation came with them.

>> Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how to do this?  Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually removing the magnetos themselves.  Though eventually, I know they're going to have to be pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my pocket the right way to put them back.

>> Thanks!

>> Dan

>> ---

>> Dan Charrois

>> President, Syzygy Research & Technology

>> Phone: 780-961-2213

>> ===========

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flysrv10(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:58 pm Post subject: Slick magneto maintenance

The good thing about magnetos is that they talk to you. You will know long before a failure that the mag is sick. At least that has been my experience for the past 30 years of flying. 



Do not archive. 



Sent from my iPhone



 	  Quote: 	
		   On Dec 5, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Dan Charrois <dan(at)syz.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Perfect - exactly what I was looking for!  Thanks a lot - mags are definitely something I want to approach with the proper documentation!

 

 Dan

 

> On 2017-Dec-05, at 7:33 AM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10(at)gmail.com> wrote:

> 

> See 

> L-1363F 4300/6300 Series Magneto Maintenance and Overhaul Manual

> 

> Do not archive 

> 

> 

>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 5:47 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> I don't know if you just meant physical copies rather than hard cover....I don't think I have ever seen it in anything but paperback.

>> I have a copy. It is informative and useful, but not exactly a maintenance or overhaul manual.

>> Kelly

>> Unfortunately when Sacramento Skyranch closed its business, John Schwaner's publishing of the magneto book, engine book and Mechanics Toolbox CD seemed to also disappear. I have and use all three.

>> 

>>> On 12/5/2017 2:43 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:

>>> https://www.amazon.com/Magneto-Ignition-System-John-Schwaner/dp/B0006P6ZLW

>>> This book can be hard to find, but it appears that Amazon has hard copies.   There is also an electronic version on google play.

>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com> on behalf of Dan Charrois <dan(at)syz.com>

>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:23:20 AM

>>> *To:* RV10-List Digest Server

>>> *Subject:* Slick magneto maintenance

>>> 

>>> Hi everyone.

>>> When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with (66LR37SCNN and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so I've been treating them as something of a black box that I haven't wanted to fiddle with as they work well.  But that's hardly the right attitude to have for an experimental aircraft   In particular, from what I understand, the magneto breaker points should be checked periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well as engine timing, etc.  And precious little (ie: no) documentation came with them.

>>> Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how to do this?  Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually removing the magnetos themselves.  Though eventually, I know they're going to have to be pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my pocket the right way to put them back.

>>> Thanks!

>>> Dan

>>> ---

>>> Dan Charrois

>>> President, Syzygy Research & Technology

>>> Phone: 780-961-2213

>>> ===========

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>>> -List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List

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>>> p;                  -Matt Dralle, List Admin.

>>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution

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>> 

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> 

 

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