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nwcmc(at)tiscali.co.uk
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:55 am Post subject: Parts for Bing Carbs

Looking to longer term servicing I have been costing the rubber connectors which connect the carbs to the manifolds on the Rotax engines. In the UK these are an extortionate price of about 50UK pounds each. I checked the price in France and they were still about 50 Euros each. I recently spoke to the owner of a Banbi (which also uses the Rotax) and he says that these parts can be obtained much cheaper from BMW as they are used with Bing carbs on BMW motorcycles. He also said that the rubber diaphragms within the carbs are also much cheaper from BMW. Has anyone else got any suggestions on this?  

   

Nigel Charles

Trevpond(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:03 am Post subject: Parts for Bing Carbs

Hi Nigel,

  

 Certainly sounds right, BMW motorcycles always used Bing Carbs.

  

  

 Trev Pond

 Kit 598

peter.rees01(at)tiscali.c
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:32 am Post subject: Parts for Bing Carbs

We changed ours about 6 months ago - I read an article about how someones

split due to ageing - the split put the carbs way out of balance and it could

have got pretty nasty. Lockwood in the US recommend (from memory) and absolute

maximum service life of 5 years.



I looked around because, as you say, they're really expensive over here -

you can get them cheaper in the US but you can't buy directly as Rotax limit

where dealers are allowed to send good. By the time they've been posted to

a friendly rotax user in the US and then posted on with the risk of the tax

man putting his hand out on the way into the country, it just wasn't worth

it - we just paid skydrive the silly amount of money (about 45gbp each plus

the vat mans share) and they were here next day - really didn't seem worth

lots of effort to save £20 or so.



Peter



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jodel(at)nildram.co.uk
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:56 am Post subject: Parts for Bing Carbs

See  the ad on page 15 of the latest "Loop"  Aerosport are selling them for  £23.38 (ex vat I assume).  There is no mention of any rotax parts on their  website though.

  

 Simon

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BEBERRY(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:02 am Post subject: Parts for Bing Carbs

In a message dated 19/07/2006 16:59:08 GMT Daylight Time,  jodel(at)nildram.co.uk writes:

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Looking to longer term servicing I    have been costing the rubber connectors which connect the carbs to the manifolds on the Rotax engines. In the    UK these are an extortionate price    of about 50UK pounds each. I checked the price in    France and they were still about 50    Euros each. I recently spoke to the owner of a Banbi    (which also uses the Rotax) and he says that these parts can be obtained much    cheaper from BMW as they are used with Bing carbs on    BMW motorcycles. He also said that the rubber diaphragms within the carbs are also much cheaper from BMW. Has anyone else got    any suggestions on this?   

  	


 

 And the Plugs!

  

 Patrick

europabill(at)bellsouth.n
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:27 pm Post subject: Parts for Bing Carbs

Watch Ebay.  Someone sells a version of the conectors for $39US.   Look like they are better quality than the much higher priced Rotax part.

  

 Bill

 A010 Monowheel Classic

  

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ami(at)mcfadyean.freeserv
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:27 pm Post subject: Parts for Bing Carbs

The Rotax manual recommends replacement of all rubber components at 5 years.

Mandatory on the certified version.



Duncan McF

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peter.rees01(at)tiscali.c
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:59 pm Post subject: Parts for Bing Carbs

Hi Duncan



The lockwood article was pretty strong in its recommendation to change them 

at 5 year intervals - especially the older types (like the ones we had) 

which don't have the sleeve over the tightening screw to prevent you from 

over tightening it. If you do this, it weakens the wall - If this cracks, 

you could loose all power from one side of the engine while the other side 

is generating full power - sounds like a good way to rip the engine from the 

mount and subsequent total loss of control - therefore sounded like £100 

well spent as our engine is about 8 years + old and sat most of that time in 

unused.



Changing all rubber parts - carb sockets, oil hoses, water hoses and fuel 

hoses cost us about £250 - do that every 5 years and you're looking at £1 a 

week.



exclusive distribution rights in the UK which can only be good news (except 

for skydrive!).





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nwcmc(at)tiscali.co.uk
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:16 am Post subject: Parts for Bing Carbs

It turns out that price is for another type of carb. The Rotax Bing carb rubbers are £41.26 incl VAT.  

   

Nigel  

   

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 From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Simon Smith

 Sent: 19 July 2006 16:55

 To: europa-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: Parts for Bing Carbs  

     

See the ad on page 15 of the latest "Loop"  Aerosport are selling them for £23.38 (ex vat I assume).  There is no mention of any rotax parts on their website though.  

    

   

    

Simon  

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BEBERRY(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:37 pm Post subject: Parts for Bing Carbs

I would think that, at a conservative estimate, the cost of production of  the Rotax Bing Carburretor rubbers are about 80p each.  Who is being ripped  off?

  

 Patrick

danny shepherd

Joined: 27 Jan 2006
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Location: north Wales, United Kingdom

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:02 pm Post subject: Parts for Bing Carbs

us !!!!!



BEBERRY(at)aol.com wrote:



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		   I would think that, at a conservative estimate, the cost of production 

 of the Rotax Bing Carburretor rubbers are about 80p each.  Who is 

 being ripped off?

  

 Patrick



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peter.rees01(at)tiscali.c
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:49 pm Post subject: Parts for Bing Carbs

You may think they're expensive but be warned.......



The Rotax 'official' oil and water hose are each about £17 per metre - I 

thought this was a ridiculous price when we changed all of the hoses on 

G-MFHI.



However....... I recently changed the water hoses on my Kit Car (can't get 

enough fibreglass!) using hose from the local motor factor. About 10 hours 

later, I arrived home and as I was putting the car into the garage, one of 

the new hoses split clean open for about 2 inches along its length dumping 

all of the coolant onto the floor!!! (imagine if this was your Rotax!!!!)



I guess the message here is - if you buy Rotax parts, you've a much better 

idea that the parts you're buying have come though a prescriptive inspection 

and test process - if you nip to the motor factors for your parts and there 

is problem, the insurance company may well ask a few awkward questions.



Peter





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ami(at)mcfadyean.freeserv
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:28 pm Post subject: Parts for Bing Carbs

Actually, the 1/2" water hose on the Rotax is 'standard' car heater stuff!

The oil hose isn't; it's Kevlar reinforced with a high temperature rating,

but available through non-Rotax sources at about the same price as Rotax.



Duncan McF.

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