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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:55 am    Post subject: Cylinders: ECI vs Superior or Others Reply with quote
I'm looking for decision support… To all the Engine
Gurus and Roll your own engine builders out there,
which is the cylinder kit to by in today’s market. So
many things are changing. It seems like everyday
products are being improved and or modified in some
way. I will not be going with standard compression
pistons and have not settled on the type of pistons or
the ratio yet. I would like to discuss overall
quality, casting, manufacturing methods etc... Which
will require a port clean up? Who's cleaned up their
fins from casing issues? Is anyone using a cryogenic
process on wear parts? Etc... Any information or
advice is appreciated.

Thanks in advance!
__________________
Darrell Reiley
RV7A "Reiley Rocket"
N622DR Reserved

CenTex_RV_Aircraft-owner(at)yahoogroups.com



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Gary.A.Sobek



Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 217
Location: SoCAL USA
PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 4:47 pm    Post subject: Cylinders: ECI vs Superior or Others Reply with quote
Darrell:

I am particial to the Superior Investment Cast Millineum cylinders. I have
S/N: 8, 9, 10, and 11 installed on my airplane. They are match flowed and
have 10:1 NFS pistons. Check the hours. Plan to take the cylinders off
when oil consumption gets high or compression gets low. Could be within the
next 1 months. I will have the cylinders inspected. If they have no
CRACKS, they may be rebuilt will all new parts and reinstalled or bored
0.010 over and rebuilt. I have budget for NEW cylinders and may go that way
if the rebuild approaches 70% of the new cost.

Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,936 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA

DO NOT ARCHIVE

----Original Message Follows----
From: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003(at)yahoo.com>
Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
To: RV-List <rv-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Cylinders: ECI vs Superior or Others
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:54:55 -0700 (PDT)



I'm looking for decision support… To all the Engine
Gurus and Roll your own engine builders out there,
which is the cylinder kit to by in today’s market. So
many things are changing. It seems like everyday
products are being improved and or modified in some
way. I will not be going with standard compression
pistons and have not settled on the type of pistons or
the ratio yet. I would like to discuss overall
quality, casting, manufacturing methods etc... Which
will require a port clean up? Who's cleaned up their
fins from casing issues? Is anyone using a cryogenic
process on wear parts? Etc... Any information or
advice is appreciated.

Thanks in advance!
__________________
Darrell Reiley
RV7A "Reiley Rocket"
N622DR Reserved

CenTex_RV_Aircraft-owner(at)yahoogroups.com

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lifeofreiley2003(at)yahoo
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 5:37 pm    Post subject: Cylinders: ECI vs Superior or Others Reply with quote
Gary,

Thanks for the info. How many years to accumulate the
hours? What's your oil consumption now?

-D-

--- RV6 Flyer <rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

<rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com>

Darrell:

I am particial to the Superior Investment Cast
Millineum cylinders. I have
S/N: 8, 9, 10, and 11 installed on my airplane.
They are match flowed and
have 10:1 NFS pistons. Check the hours. Plan to
take the cylinders off
when oil consumption gets high or compression gets
low. Could be within the
next 1 months. I will have the cylinders inspected.
If they have no
CRACKS, they may be rebuilt will all new parts and
reinstalled or bored
0.010 over and rebuilt. I have budget for NEW
cylinders and may go that way
if the rebuild approaches 70% of the new cost.

Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,936 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA

DO NOT ARCHIVE

----Original Message Follows----
From: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003(at)yahoo.com>
Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
To: RV-List <rv-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Cylinders: ECI vs Superior or
Others
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:54:55 -0700 (PDT)


<lifeofreiley2003(at)yahoo.com>

I'm looking for decision support… To all the Engine
Gurus and Roll your own engine builders out there,
which is the cylinder kit to by in today’s market.
So
many things are changing. It seems like everyday
products are being improved and or modified in some
way. I will not be going with standard compression
pistons and have not settled on the type of pistons
or
the ratio yet. I would like to discuss overall
quality, casting, manufacturing methods etc... Which
will require a port clean up? Who's cleaned up their
fins from casing issues? Is anyone using a cryogenic
process on wear parts? Etc... Any information or
advice is appreciated.

Thanks in advance!
__________________


Darrell Reiley
RV7A "Reiley Rocket"
N622DR Reserved

CenTex_RV_Aircraft-owner(at)yahoogroups.com







__________________________________________________





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Gary.A.Sobek



Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 217
Location: SoCAL USA
PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:35 am    Post subject: Cylinders: ECI vs Superior or Others Reply with quote
8 years 11 months.

6 hours / quart now.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,938 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA


----Original Message Follows----
From: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003(at)yahoo.com>
Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Cylinders: ECI vs Superior or Others
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:37:23 -0700 (PDT)



Gary,

Thanks for the info. How many years to accumulate the
hours? What's your oil consumption now?

-D-

--- RV6 Flyer <rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> <rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com>
>
> Darrell:
>
> I am particial to the Superior Investment Cast
> Millineum cylinders. I have
> S/N: 8, 9, 10, and 11 installed on my airplane.
> They are match flowed and
> have 10:1 NFS pistons. Check the hours. Plan to
> take the cylinders off
> when oil consumption gets high or compression gets
> low. Could be within the
> next 1 months. I will have the cylinders inspected.
> If they have no
> CRACKS, they may be rebuilt will all new parts and
> reinstalled or bored
> 0.010 over and rebuilt. I have budget for NEW
> cylinders and may go that way
> if the rebuild approaches 70% of the new cost.
>
> Gary A. Sobek
> "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
> 1,936 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003(at)yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
> To: RV-List <rv-list(at)matronics.com>
> Subject: Cylinders: ECI vs Superior or
> Others
> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:54:55 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
> <lifeofreiley2003(at)yahoo.com>
>
> I'm looking for decision support… To all the Engine
> Gurus and Roll your own engine builders out there,
> which is the cylinder kit to by in today’s market.
> So
> many things are changing. It seems like everyday
> products are being improved and or modified in some
> way. I will not be going with standard compression
> pistons and have not settled on the type of pistons
> or
> the ratio yet. I would like to discuss overall
> quality, casting, manufacturing methods etc... Which
> will require a port clean up? Who's cleaned up their
> fins from casing issues? Is anyone using a cryogenic
> process on wear parts? Etc... Any information or
> advice is appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance!
> __________________
>
>
> Darrell Reiley
> RV7A "Reiley Rocket"
> N622DR Reserved
>
> CenTex_RV_Aircraft-owner(at)yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
> Web Forums!
>
>
> Admin.
>
>
>
>
>
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:31 pm    Post subject: Cylinders: ECI vs Superior or Others Reply with quote
Hi Gary,

There's a high level of respect for your knowledge
and opinions in the RV community. I wanted to get your
thoughts on a few questions I've been pondering. I
hope you don't mind...?

I've read a few negative comments regarding steel
cylinders being used with high compression pistons.
Can you comment on this subject?

You are using 10 to 1 pistons, any issues with the
engine running smooth? Did your cylinders come flow
matched?
Darrell


--- RV6 Flyer <rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

<rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com>

Darrell:

I am particial to the Superior Investment Cast
Millineum cylinders. I have
S/N: 8, 9, 10, and 11 installed on my airplane.
They are match flowed and
have 10:1 NFS pistons. Check the hours. Plan to
take the cylinders off
when oil consumption gets high or compression gets
low. Could be within the
next 1 months. I will have the cylinders inspected.
If they have no
CRACKS, they may be rebuilt will all new parts and
reinstalled or bored
0.010 over and rebuilt. I have budget for NEW
cylinders and may go that way
if the rebuild approaches 70% of the new cost.

Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,936 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA

DO NOT ARCHIVE

----Original Message Follows----
From: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003(at)yahoo.com>
Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
To: RV-List <rv-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Cylinders: ECI vs Superior or
Others
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:54:55 -0700 (PDT)


<lifeofreiley2003(at)yahoo.com>

I'm looking for decision support… To all the Engine
Gurus and Roll your own engine builders out there,
which is the cylinder kit to by in today’s market.
So
many things are changing. It seems like everyday
products are being improved and or modified in some
way. I will not be going with standard compression
pistons and have not settled on the type of pistons
or
the ratio yet. I would like to discuss overall
quality, casting, manufacturing methods etc... Which
will require a port clean up? Who's cleaned up their
fins from casing issues? Is anyone using a cryogenic
process on wear parts? Etc... Any information or
advice is appreciated.

Thanks in advance!
__________________


Darrell Reiley
RV7A "Reiley Rocket"
N622DR Reserved

CenTex_RV_Aircraft-owner(at)yahoogroups.com







__________________________________________________





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Darrell Reiley
RV7A "Reiley Rocket"
N622DR Reserved

CenTex_RV_Aircraft-owner(at)yahoogroups.com



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lifeofreiley2003(at)yahoo
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:21 pm    Post subject: Cylinders: ECI vs Superior or Others Reply with quote
Oops, not a list email... please do not archive
previous email.

Darrell

DO NOT ARCHIVE
--- Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

Quote:

<lifeofreiley2003(at)yahoo.com>

Hi Gary,

There's a high level of respect for your knowledge
and opinions in the RV community. I wanted to get
your
thoughts on a few questions I've been pondering. I
hope you don't mind...?

I've read a few negative comments regarding steel
cylinders being used with high compression pistons.
Can you comment on this subject?

You are using 10 to 1 pistons, any issues with the
engine running smooth? Did your cylinders come flow
matched?


Darrell




--- RV6 Flyer <rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> <rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com>
>
> Darrell:
>
> I am particial to the Superior Investment Cast
> Millineum cylinders. I have
> S/N: 8, 9, 10, and 11 installed on my airplane.
> They are match flowed and
> have 10:1 NFS pistons. Check the hours. Plan to
> take the cylinders off
> when oil consumption gets high or compression gets
> low. Could be within the
> next 1 months. I will have the cylinders
inspected.
> If they have no
> CRACKS, they may be rebuilt will all new parts and
> reinstalled or bored
> 0.010 over and rebuilt. I have budget for NEW
> cylinders and may go that way
> if the rebuild approaches 70% of the new cost.
>
> Gary A. Sobek
> "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
> 1,936 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003(at)yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
> To: RV-List <rv-list(at)matronics.com>
> Subject: Cylinders: ECI vs Superior or
> Others
> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:54:55 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
> <lifeofreiley2003(at)yahoo.com>
>
> I'm looking for decision support… To all the
Engine
> Gurus and Roll your own engine builders out there,
> which is the cylinder kit to by in today’s market.
> So
> many things are changing. It seems like everyday
> products are being improved and or modified in
some
> way. I will not be going with standard compression
> pistons and have not settled on the type of
pistons
> or
> the ratio yet. I would like to discuss overall
> quality, casting, manufacturing methods etc...
Which
> will require a port clean up? Who's cleaned up
their
> fins from casing issues? Is anyone using a
cryogenic
> process on wear parts? Etc... Any information or
> advice is appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance!
> __________________
>
>
> Darrell Reiley
> RV7A "Reiley Rocket"
> N622DR Reserved
>
> CenTex_RV_Aircraft-owner(at)yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
> Web Forums!
>
>
> Admin.
>
>
>
>
>


Darrell Reiley
RV7A "Reiley Rocket"
N622DR Reserved

CenTex_RV_Aircraft-owner(at)yahoogroups.com







__________________________________________________


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Admin.







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RV7A "Reiley Rocket"
N622DR Reserved

CenTex_RV_Aircraft-owner(at)yahoogroups.com



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Charles Heathco



Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 201
PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:39 pm    Post subject: Cylinders: ECI vs Superior or Others Reply with quote
FWIW just installed an engine with 171 hrs on Superior cylinders, and had to take #4 in for OH after lapping both valves. Rings wore out and piston scraping cyl wall. Superior said SORRY/ Charlie Heathco
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Gary.A.Sobek



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:23 pm    Post subject: Cylinders: ECI vs Superior or Others Reply with quote
I have Superior cylinders s/n 8, 9, 10 , and 11 running for the past almost
9 years and 1,950 hours. Compression is still good and using 1 qt of oil
every 6 hours. About ready to retire them.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,950 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Charles Heathco" <cheathco(at)cox.net>
Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
To: <rv-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Cylinders: ECI vs Superior or Others
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:36:54 -0500

FWIW just installed an engine with 171 hrs on Superior cylinders, and had
to take #4 in for OH after lapping both valves. Rings wore out and piston
scraping cyl wall. Superior said SORRY/ Charlie Heathco

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