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flyguy

Joined: 04 Mar 2006
Posts: 325

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:04 am Post subject: weekend lunch-NMB

Based on current forecast, I suggest we consider

Saturday noon for those who can go.  Sunday looks very

Lennish, so, barring a drastic chg in forecast, lets

plan to do Rockefellers on saturday. no need to

respond, those who arrive can gather and hoof it down

the street.



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Steve Glasgow

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 674

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject: weekend lunch-NMB

Looks like Cappy is out.  Due to commitments to kids for SAT.

 [quote]   ---

_________________
Steve Glasgow-Cappy
Cappy's Toy
RV-8 N123SG

Larry Bowen

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 802
Location: NC, USA

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:13 pm Post subject: weekend lunch-NMB

No Saturday for us either.  This doesn't look to great  for Sunday or Monday either.

  

 http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/progs/prog48hr.gif

  

 Pam and I are thinking of going tomorrow (Friday).   Anyone else?

 

-

Larry Bowen

Larry(at)BowenAero.com

http://BowenAero.com

  



 [quote]         From: Steve Glasgow    [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com] 

Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006    5:46 PM

To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re:    weekend lunch-NMB

   

   Looks like Cappy is out.  Due to commitments to kids for SAT.

   [quote]     ---

_________________
Larry Bowen
RV-8 SOLD,
RV-7QB in progress...

sportav8r(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:25 am Post subject: weekend lunch-NMB

Happy 4-0, Wizzard!



-Stormy



On 12/28/06, Larry Bowen <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> wrote:

[quote]



 No Saturday for us either.  This doesn't look to great for Sunday or Monday

 either.



 http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/progs/prog48hr.gif



 Pam and I are thinking of going tomorrow (Friday).  Anyone else?



 -

 Larry Bowen

 Larry(at)BowenAero.com

 http://BowenAero.com





  ________________________________

  From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]

 Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 5:46 PM

 To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: weekend lunch-NMB



 Looks like Cappy is out.  Due to commitments to kids for SAT.



 ---

Steve Glasgow

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 674

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:06 am Post subject: weekend lunch-NMB

Good lordy, I forgot Larry is 40.  Congrats!

  

 Cappy

 [quote]   ---

_________________
Steve Glasgow-Cappy
Cappy's Toy
RV-8 N123SG

flyguy

Joined: 04 Mar 2006
Posts: 325

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:24 am Post subject: weekend lunch-NMB

he's still the baby in the group!!!

--- Bill Boyd <sportav8r(at)gmail.com> wrote:



[quote] 

 <sportav8r(at)gmail.com>

 

 Happy 4-0, Wizzard!

 

 -Stormy

 

 On 12/28/06, Larry Bowen <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>

 wrote:

 >

 >

 > No Saturday for us either.  This doesn't look to

 great for Sunday or Monday

 > either.

 >

 > http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/progs/prog48hr.gif

 >

 > Pam and I are thinking of going tomorrow (Friday).

  Anyone else?

 >

 > -

 > Larry Bowen

 > Larry(at)BowenAero.com

 > http://BowenAero.com

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >  ________________________________

 >  From: Steve Glasgow

 [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]

 > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 5:46 PM

 > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com

 > Subject: Re: weekend lunch-NMB

 >

 >

 >

 > Looks like Cappy is out.  Due to commitments to

 kids for SAT.

 >

 > ---

Larry Bowen

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 802
Location: NC, USA

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:50 pm Post subject: weekend lunch-NMB

Thanks.  It was a pretty good birthday.  We did the CRE lunch trip today. 

We were alone, but passed Randy P. and his wife as we walked to

Rockefeller.  The trip down was smooth and uneventful.  The grinch in the

tower seems to have been replaced by someone with a better disposition,

but otherwise less qualified.  Beware.



After we returned and refueled, I gave one of the locals a ride.  I think

he'll be talking about it for a while....standard RV grin.



Cheers,



-- 

Larry Bowen

Larry(at)BowenAero.com

http://BowenAero.com



Bill Boyd wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Happy 4-0, Wizzard!



 -Stormy

_________________
Larry Bowen
RV-8 SOLD,
RV-7QB in progress...

pinkston(at)carolina.rr.c
Guest

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:16 pm Post subject: weekend lunch-NMB

there is a clip board at ramp 66 at the counter asking you to fill it out on

how the tower treated you.I ask about it and the woman said that they have

had many  people coming in unhappy in the way they where handled,or in the

way he talked to other people.  It's about time!   maybe it will get better

now      randy p

---

tadsargent(at)bellsouth.n
Guest

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:04 pm Post subject: weekend lunch-NMB

What am I missing, who is the "Tower Guy" and why do I need to talk to him 

to land at CRE, MYR is far enough south to avoid excess conversation or am I 

off base.

Tad

---

jclarkmail(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:18 pm Post subject: weekend lunch-NMB

There is an operational tower ...

See below.



James

Communication Freqs:        Unicom - 122.95    TWR - 124.6     GND - 121.8    CTAF - 124.6     FSS - ANDERSON 122.1 R 117.6 T 123.6  

Approach Freqs: Jacksonville Center:128.7 ; Myrtle Beach:119.2 ; 





On 12/29/06, tadsargent < tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net (tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:[quote]--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "tadsargent" < tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net (tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net)>



What am I missing, who is the "Tower Guy" and why do I need to talk to him

to land at CRE, MYR is far enough south to avoid excess conversation or am I 

off base.

Tad

---

pinkston(at)carolina.rr.c
Guest

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject: weekend lunch-NMB

cre is class d airspace and there is a jerk that works there sometimes that

chews everybody out seems like. I have be told many times about people

having a bad time with him rp

---

bburril(at)carolina.rr.co
Guest

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:29 pm Post subject: weekend lunch-NMB

Yeah your out there in left field.The tower guy at cre will bust your chops 

if you don,t use the airspace correctly,call in as soon as he thinks you 

should, and don,t even think about calling it myrtle beach grand strand.IT 

IS GRAND STAND ONLY.---

robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:50 pm Post subject: weekend lunch-NMB

I know who you're talking about now... I've heard him myself a few  

times.... really can be a snit, can't he?

"I don't CARE if you've been talking to Myrtle Approach, you're in my  

airspace now, you should have called ME!!!"



There's another guy there though sometimes who's pretty laid back.  

nice voice.



I think we're out for Sunday too if no one else is going.



Y'all have a great New Year!



Robbie Walker



On Dec 29, 2006, at 10:29 PM, bburril wrote:



[quote] 

 <bburril(at)carolina.rr.com>



 Yeah your out there in left field.The tower guy at cre will bust  

 your chops if you don,t use the airspace correctly,call in as soon  

 as he thinks you should, and don,t even think about calling it  

 myrtle beach grand strand.IT IS GRAND STAND ONLY.----- Original  

 Message ----- From: "tadsargent" <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net>

 To: <rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com>

 Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 10:04 PM

 Subject: Re: weekend lunch-NMB

> 

> <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net>

>

> What am I missing, who is the "Tower Guy" and why do I need to  

> talk to him to land at CRE, MYR is far enough south to avoid  

> excess conversation or am I off base.

> Tad

> ---

Larry Bowen

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 802
Location: NC, USA

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:09 pm Post subject: weekend lunch-NMB

So you normally land at CRE without talking to the tower?  No wonder they

are in a bad mood!  



-- 

Larry Bowen

Larry(at)BowenAero.com

http://BowenAero.com



tadsargent wrote:

[quote] 

 <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net>



 What am I missing, who is the "Tower Guy" and why do I need to talk to him

 to land at CRE, MYR is far enough south to avoid excess conversation or am

 I

 off base.

 Tad

 ---

_________________
Larry Bowen
RV-8 SOLD,
RV-7QB in progress...

tadsargent(at)bellsouth.n
Guest

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:27 am Post subject: weekend lunch-NMB

It has been awile since I was there (too many beach trips).  Thanks for the 

info.

Tad

---

Lenleg(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:43 am Post subject: weekend lunch-NMB

The biggest problem I have had in the area is the transition from MYR  Approach to CRE ... he hands you off when you are right at the CRE airspace or  already in it ... you call CRE and tell them and they act like they have never  heard of you .. which they probably haven't since MYR Approach just terminates  your flight at a horrible time giving you absolutely no time to contact CRE  before busting into their space.

  

 When MYR ask do you have CRE in sight .... say no until he has to give you  over to tower ... or don't use MYR for flight following.

  

 Len

  [quote][b]

sportav8r(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:07 am Post subject: weekend lunch-NMB

I see your problem- what's "flight following?" 



Maybe try, "Myrtle Approach, 910LL has Grand Strand in sight (even if

you don't); request frequency change to Ass Hat on 124 point 6 before

I bust his airspace, over."



Y'all have a happy New Year's celebration and we'll catch up with the

gang later in the new year.



-Stormy



On 12/30/06, Lenleg(at)aol.com <Lenleg(at)aol.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  



 The biggest problem I have had in the area is the transition from MYR

 Approach to CRE ... he hands you off when you are right at the CRE airspace

 or already in it ... you call CRE and tell them and they act like they have

 never heard of you .. which they probably haven't since MYR Approach just

 terminates your flight at a horrible time giving you absolutely no time to

 contact CRE before busting into their space.



 When MYR ask do you have CRE in sight .... say no until he has to give you

 over to tower ... or don't use MYR for flight following.



 Len

robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:49 am Post subject: weekend lunch-NMB

Not me!

He's never actually been a jerk to me.

I follow ALL FAA regulations and procedures to-the-letter and never  

make any mistakes! <grin>

It could also be that he recognized the call-signs of the planes I  

rented as being local and didn't want to stir things up too bad.

Truthfully, though, I probably did always contact him outside his  

airspace.

I've actually been surprised that some of my landings didn't elicit  

some kind of response from the tower:

"Nice carrier-trap lieutenant" or "WOW! I didn't know the landing  

gear on a skyhawk was that strong!"

Robbie Walker

On Dec 29, 2006, at 11:03 PM, Larry Bowen wrote:

[quote] 

 <Larry(at)BowenAero.com>

 So you normally land at CRE without talking to the tower?  No  

 wonder they

 are in a bad mood!  

 -- 

 Larry Bowen

 Larry(at)BowenAero.com

 http://BowenAero.com

 tadsargent wrote:

> 

> <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net>

>

> What am I missing, who is the "Tower Guy" and why do I need to  

> talk to him

> to land at CRE, MYR is far enough south to avoid excess  

> conversation or am

> I

> off base.

> Tad

> ---

Larry Bowen

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 802
Location: NC, USA

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:24 am Post subject: weekend lunch-NMB

With that in mind, I did  not talk to MYR, I just called CRE 20 miles out.  All went find until on 2  mile BASE to 05, at 175 knots, he told me to turn LEFT to downwind to be  number two behind a skylane who was just entering a downwind from the  north.  Huh!?  It all went down hill from there.......

 

-

Larry Bowen

Larry(at)BowenAero.com

http://BowenAero.com

  



 [quote]         From: Lenleg(at)aol.com [mailto:Lenleg(at)aol.com]    

Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 7:43 AM

To:    rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List:    weekend lunch-NMB

   

   The biggest problem I have had in the area is the transition from MYR    Approach to CRE ... he hands you off when you are right at the CRE airspace or    already in it ... you call CRE and tell them and they act like they have never    heard of you .. which they probably haven't since MYR Approach just terminates    your flight at a horrible time giving you absolutely no time to contact CRE    before busting into their space.

    

   When MYR ask do you have CRE in sight .... say no until he has to give    you over to tower ... or don't use MYR for flight following.

    

   Len

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Larry Bowen
RV-8 SOLD,
RV-7QB in progress...

MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:29 am Post subject: weekend lunch-NMB

During 3 VMC IFR approaches to Grand Strand 3-5 years ago I noticed that 

there seems to be no communication between Myrtle approach and the 

tower.  Having them in sight 6 miles out seems about right.  Easy to do  

once you've been there a few times.



Some places work better than others.



Bill "Riveting an RV10 tailcone" Watson



Bill Boyd wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 I see your problem- what's "flight following?" 



 Maybe try, "Myrtle Approach, 910LL has Grand Strand in sight (even if

 you don't); request frequency change to Ass Hat on 124 point 6 before

 I bust his airspace, over."



 Y'all have a happy New Year's celebration and we'll catch up with the

 gang later in the new year.



 -Stormy



 On 12/30/06, Lenleg(at)aol.com <Lenleg(at)aol.com> wrote:

> The biggest problem I have had in the area is the transition from MYR

> Approach to CRE ... he hands you off when you are right at the CRE 

> airspace

> or already in it ... you call CRE and tell them and they act like 

> they have

> never heard of you .. which they probably haven't since MYR Approach 

> just

> terminates your flight at a horrible time giving you absolutely no 

> time to

> contact CRE before busting into their space.

>

> When MYR ask do you have CRE in sight .... say no until he has to 

> give you

> over to tower ... or don't use MYR for flight following.

>

> Len

>

>

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