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Glenn Horne

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 96

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:55 pm Post subject: Weight

List, Glenn Horne here. I have a Model II with a  582.

 I would like to get some empty weight of other  Model II w/ 582's.

 Mine seems to be little heavy empty.581  lb's.

 Thanks

 Glenn

  

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Mnflyer

Joined: 15 May 2006
Posts: 78

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: Weight

Hi Glenn, my Model III weighed 510 lbs when it had a 582 while not the same model its close, now with the HKS installed it comes in at 525 lbs.

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rliebmann(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:14 pm Post subject: Weight

Glen,

  

 My Model 2/582 weights in at 535 lbs. including a  BRS.

  

 Ron

  

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eskflyer(at)lvcisp.com
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:37 pm Post subject: Weight

Model 2 with 582 c box ivo inflight , 467 lbs  empty

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Beemer

Joined: 26 Aug 2006
Posts: 87
Location: Middle Georgia

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject: Weight

My 2 with the 582 was at 478.  

   

Bradley  

         

  

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of john perry

 Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 5:37 PM

 To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Weight  

  

     

Model 2 with 582 c box ivo inflight , 467 lbs empty  

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KF2 (and now an M3!)
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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 4:04 pm Post subject: Weight

Good Lord, you guys must be filling the wings with helium! These low  

weights have got to be with the 6 gallon tanks, right? What else  

makes these planes so light compared to the IV's? Jeez, if my ex- 

wives climbed on your scales we might still be married.



Lynn

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On Jan 14, 2007, at 6:39 PM, Bradley M Webb wrote:



[quote] My 2 with the 582 was at 478.



 Bradley



 From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox- 

 list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of john perry

 Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 5:37 PM

 To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Weight



 Model 2 with 582 c box ivo inflight , 467 lbs empty



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dave

Joined: 22 Sep 2006
Posts: 1382

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 4:16 pm Post subject: Weight

MY IV is about 540 



my Buddies Model 1 is 430 with 503 



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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject: Weight

I believe you made that same remark when I told you my IV-1050 weighed only  575 with a subaru on front, but it is a fact.  Now that I have added the  farings for the struts and landing gear, it is about  585.

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eskflyer(at)lvcisp.com
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:08 pm Post subject: Weight

nope , 13 gallon right tank and 10 gallon nose tank . . did a new weight and 

balance last year after installing new ELT and was same weight . light coats 

of poly brush and poly spray and very light coat of paint . . Makes for a 

great awsome offroad vehicle not to metion the climbout and STOL performance

Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:46 pm Post subject: Weight

I haven't weighed mine but the  W&B that came with it says 511 on wheels.

  

  

 

Noel [quote]   

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Kitfox III-A
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wliles(at)bayou.com
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject: Weight

What makes the 1s and 2s and 3s so light is thiner spars, fewer ribs, 

light fabric, thinner and smaller diameter struts, simple, light 

engines, single fuselage fuel tank, or smaller wing tanks, minimal 

instrumentation, no amenities such as cabin heat, insulation, baggage 

storage, etc.  In other words the least amount of materials were used to 

make a safe airplane with an enclosed cabin.  If it wasn't necessary for 

flight and minimal comfort it isn't on the airplane.  And that's why a 

503 powered Model II or a B Model Avid with minimal equipment and paint 

can get off in under 100 feet and climb like a bat.  Each succeding 

Model gained horsepower, comfort, and weight, lots of weight.  Of course 

most builders seem to have to improve things, which almost always means 

adding weight, often lots of weight which results in some fat Model 2s 

and 3s.  Glenn's model II weighs almost as much as my Avid MK IV STOL 

(547lbs).   I still think the earlier Avids and Kitfoxes when built 

light are the most fun of the litter.

Jerry Liles

Lynn Matteson wrote:

[quote] 

 Good Lord, you guys must be filling the wings with helium! These low  

 weights have got to be with the 6 gallon tanks, right? What else  

 makes these planes so light compared to the IV's? Jeez, if my ex- 

 wives climbed on your scales we might still be married.

 Lynn

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 On Jan 14, 2007, at 6:39 PM, Bradley M Webb wrote:

> My 2 with the 582 was at 478.

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> Bradley

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> From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox- 

> list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of john perry

> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 5:37 PM

> To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

> Subject: Re: Weight

>

> Model 2 with 582 c box ivo inflight , 467 lbs empty

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Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: Weight

What's missing from your  plane??  A starter and battery???

  

 That's  light!

  

  

 

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Kitfox III-A
Aerocet 1100 Floats

eskflyer(at)lvcisp.com
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject: Weight

I have starter  battery 13 gallon wing tank 10  gallon nose tank  nav strobe lights full instruments with lighting and  heater insulation  all the comforts of home and she is only 467 empty . The  secret is in the finishing of the fabric . Use minumum amounts of silver and  paint and you will have a lite weight bird.

  

 John Perry

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rexinator(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:09 am Post subject: Weight

My M2 shows 543 empty on the data plate.

Two 13 gal. wing tanks, one 2 gal. header behind seat, starter battery, 

582 dual carb, gsc 3 blade grnd adj, c-box.



Rex Hefferan

Colorado N740GP

msm_9949(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:17 am Post subject: Weight

Hi Glenn.

   

  My Model 2 is also a little heavy at 535# per the AW certificate. Since initial wt and balance calcs, I've added a cargo pod and a few other odds and ends. I'm guessing it's about 550 now.



Glenn Horne <glennflys(at)verizon.net> wrote:

  [quote]        List, Glenn Horne here. I have a Model II with a 582.

  I would like to get some empty weight of other Model II w/ 582's.

  Mine seems to be little heavy empty.581 lb's.

  Thanks

  Glenn

   

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dcaofak(at)acsalaska.net
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:53 am Post subject: Weight

Watch your ounces when building, save the  pounds.  I used every suggested weight saving in the manual except drilling  holes in the brake rotors.

 Model III, 582 = 439.5 pounds empty.

 This helps make up for the pilots lack of exercise  and weight conditioning.

 Also give a useful load of 660 pounds.

 Regards,

 John Stoner

 Alaska

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eskflyer(at)lvcisp.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:44 am Post subject: Weight

WOW I thought mine was lite. I do have the drilled  rotors though.

 Looks like you should have some great ski flying  this winter John.

 My Bro has his covered now , there in Soldotna . He  will be working on it this next hitch in from the slope . 

  

 Take care fly safe 

 John Perry

  

  

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mclayton(at)rochester.rr.
Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 3:59 pm Post subject: Weight

The W&B data sheet for my KF2 SN89 shows 461 lbs. as the empty  

weight.  Of course, when I am through rebuilding it, I will have to  

redo the Weight and Balance.

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