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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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 Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:17 pm Post subject: FAA Meeting |
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Well, I am sure some of you are wondering how the meeting with the FAA went today. I will try to get around to going into more detail for those who want to know in the next couple of days, but the short version is that it went extremely well. Many thanks to whoever “squealed” anonymously to the FAA trying to hurt us (if you are reading this, it backfired unless you truly were trying to help us J ), because it actually helped a lot both in our understanding of what is and is not (probably, since these rules are changing and even they don’t really know where they are going yet) appropriate, and in their understanding more fully what we are about and how we are going about it. We will see when the dust of all of this rule-rewriting settled how things actually stand, but we believe we have made great strides towards complying with the rules that are not even set yet, and there is an outside chance that we may even be able to be a test case for helping to determine how the rules are written/worded. Time will tell!
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Speaking of which, does anybody know if the above tag keeps the posts out of the online forum? I have seen my DNA posts on the forum and wondered if maybe they are removed after a certain amount of time. I have e-mailed Matt without a reply. If they are posted there and left, that would certainly make a difference in the amount I would be willing to write to the list, since they truly would be archived, even when I don’t want them to be. Is if possible that having some other punctuation touching makes the phrase unrecognized by the server?
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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rvbuilder(at)sausen.net
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:05 am Post subject: FAA Meeting |
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That’s good to hear, try to keep us all in the loop on how your future meetings go. I think it’s very valuable to see how the FAA works with the builder assist centers. Especially as they work through the new rule making.
Do not archive seems to have no affect on the web forum post. It really doesn’t make a difference anyway as almost everything that is posted is crawled and archived by other services like Google. I can still find some of my original USENET posts from back in the early 90’s. Once it’s in the ether, it can always be found again.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 9:17 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: FAA Meeting
Well, I am sure some of you are wondering how the meeting with the FAA went today. I will try to get around to going into more detail for those who want to know in the next couple of days, but the short version is that it went extremely well. Many thanks to whoever “squealed” anonymously to the FAA trying to hurt us (if you are reading this, it backfired unless you truly were trying to help us J ), because it actually helped a lot both in our understanding of what is and is not (probably, since these rules are changing and even they don’t really know where they are going yet) appropriate, and in their understanding more fully what we are about and how we are going about it. We will see when the dust of all of this rule-rewriting settled how things actually stand, but we believe we have made great strides towards complying with the rules that are not even set yet, and there is an outside chance that we may even be able to be a test case for helping to determine how the rules are written/worded. Time will tell!
do not archive
Speaking of which, does anybody know if the above tag keeps the posts out of the online forum? I have seen my DNA posts on the forum and wondered if maybe they are removed after a certain amount of time. I have e-mailed Matt without a reply. If they are posted there and left, that would certainly make a difference in the amount I would be willing to write to the list, since they truly would be archived, even when I don’t want them to be. Is if possible that having some other punctuation touching makes the phrase unrecognized by the server?
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:33 am Post subject: FAA Meeting |
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Jesse Saint wrote:
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Speaking of which, does anybody know if the above tag keeps the posts out of the online forum? I have seen my DNA posts on the forum and wondered if maybe they are removed after a certain amount of time.
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I asked the same question when I came on board. It does work to keep extraneous stuff out of the archives. It doesn't matter where in the message it resides ...... even on the end of a 25 hit thread.
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I have e-mailed Matt without a reply. If they are posted there and left, that would certainly make a difference in the amount I would be willing to write to the list, since they truly would be archived, even when I don’t want them to be. Is if possible that having some other punctuation touching makes the phrase unrecognized by the server?
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there is a difference in what gets kept on the server. The message will go out to all the list subscribers no matter what, but without the 'do not archive' ..... those words and nothing else ..... it'll be kept for posterity ..... and eternity as storage drive capability increases. I also think you'll get a response ..... Matt must be one very busy guy.
For me, I use 'do not archive' a lot ...... mostly it's going to be MY opinion and MY experience at this point, and I've been proven wrong in the past. I'd hate to think that just because I was lucky, someone else go hurt as a result of MY post. Just in case any of you have been wondering. Sometimes a poster will disagree with the 'do not archive' in a post and repost it with the verbage removed. That's OK too.
Linn ...... it's in there lots more than once 
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Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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LarryRosen
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: FAA Meeting |
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If you look at the online forum there are 30 pages with the oldest post in December 31, 2006. The formum has a limited retention time. The archives do not have a time limit.
Jesse, Keep up updated please.
Larry Rosen
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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:17 pm Post subject: FAA Meeting |
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That's helpful. Thanks!
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Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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rv10builder(at)verizon.ne
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| Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:47 pm Post subject: FAA Meeting |
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Many thanks to whoever “squealed” anonymously to the FAA trying to hurt us (if you are reading this, it backfired unless you truly were trying to help us J )
Don't know the details but- Sounds like Genesis 50:20
Pascal
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AV8ORJWC
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Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"
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| Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:59 pm Post subject: FAA Meeting |
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Individuals that are compliant with FAA regulations should be a good thing. I don’t think there are many beyond the select few on the ARC committee which know where this is going.
As Frank Paskiewicz, FAA Manager has stated, these proceedings are “Secret and Private”. We will all know soon enough when the NPRM is unleashed upon the Amateur Kit-Building Community. You should keep your committee members informed – in writing, as to how you feel, as they shape the “Future Interpretation”. As to quoting scriptures, I can just see it now, “Michigan Islamo-Fascist group challenges Florida and Central American Christians in US Supreme Court” to build aircraft for private education and enjoyment. TSA is about to take responsibility for screening all airline passengers I.D. and their tickets from airlines – saving millions in airline profit and vastly increasing delays at screening gates. Now there is even invasive x-ray that sees through clothing. If you have never written a response to an NPRM – learn the process. It works.
The world of Unintended Consequence is alive and well with kit builders. Sounds like Jesse has a healthy and strong relationship with his FSDO Airworthiness Inspectors.
John Cox
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pascal
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 3:47 PM
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Subject: Re: FAA Meeting
Many thanks to whoever “squealed” anonymously to the FAA trying to hurt us (if you are reading this, it backfired unless you truly were trying to help us J )
Don't know the details but- Sounds like Genesis 50:20
Pascal
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