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bicyclop(at)pacbell.net
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 Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:35 pm Post subject: high temp cable ties |
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Sorry Sam, if you think I misquoted you. Such was not my intent, and it
seems clear who said what in the quoted text. What I was trying to do
was to warn others that damage is indeed possible, even if not
inevitable, and to look for and treat it. Personally, I think prevention
is even better. Hanging seems so, so permanent somehow. Please don't do
it. We would all miss your advice and knowledge. 
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
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Sam Buchanan wrote:
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Good grief......now my post to clear up how I was originally misquoted
has been misquoted.........
Guess I will just have to go hang myself with some oil-soaked, abraded
nylon cable ties.....
Sam Buchanan
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Ed wrote:
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> On the other hand, I have seen damage on our 6a caused by cable ties.
> Most places, it just wore through the paint. Other places, it did
> some some damage to the metal. We still have some cable ties, but now
> they have tape or rubber hose between them and the engine mount. I
> highly recommend protecting the engine mount from cable ties and any
> other possible cause of chafing. Even if the metal isn't damaged, it
> is unprotected from corrosion unless you chase it down, prime and
> paint it.
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> Pax,
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> Ed Holyoke
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> Sam Buchanan wrote:
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>> Mike Divan wrote:
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>>> I have been watching the cable tie debate with interest. Lots of
>>> things to think about on both sides. My little bird is extremely well
>>> built (by someone other than me so I can say that) it has cable ties
>>> and 590 + hours. Checking my little bird out I have noticed that the
>>> cable ties hav e abraded some paint. I have looked at a 6 just a
>>> couple hangers away with well over 2000 hours, adle clamps and no
>>> abraded paint. I will be replacing the cable ties with adle (however
>>> you spell it) clamps over time. It just seems better to not have
>>> abraded paint. Anyone trying to decide is welcome to come over and
>>> take a look if that will help you make a decision. Don't know what is
>>> wright or wrong or acceptable in this case I just know what I have
>>> observed and the clamps appear at least to me to be a better choice.
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>> Since my original post has been quoted on several of the replies in
>> this thread, I want to clear up a couple of things:
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>> 1) I agreed with the the person to whom I replied that adel clamps
>> are the preferred way to secure item to the engine mount tubes. I
>> have several adel clamps in my engine installation.
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>> 2) I disagree with the assertion that the use of cable ties will
>> always doom your engine mount to certain damage. Mine and the
>> experience of many other builders would invalidate this position.
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>> Our engine compartments are monitored much more closely than many
>> certificated planes and we have ample opportunity to catch problems
>> before they become problems. If you have used cable ties to attach
>> wiring to the mount, then replacing them with adel clamps would
>> certainly be in keeping with certificated practice. But if the ties
>> remain in place, just keep an eye on them and replace them if/when
>> you see anything that bothers you.
>>
>> Common sense rules. 
>>
>> Sam Buchanan
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sbuc(at)hiwaay.net
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 6:37 pm Post subject: high temp cable ties |
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Ed wrote:
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Sorry Sam, if you think I misquoted you. Such was not my intent, and it
seems clear who said what in the quoted text. What I was trying to do
was to warn others that damage is indeed possible, even if not
inevitable, and to look for and treat it. Personally, I think prevention
is even better. Hanging seems so, so permanent somehow. Please don't do
it. We would all miss your advice and knowledge.
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Thanks for intervening, Ed. I shall put away the nasty cable ties
and press on to fight another day.
Sam Buchanan
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n801bh(at)netzero.com
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:32 am Post subject: high temp cable ties |
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Gosh Sam,,, Remember. if you do want to file your last flight plan try to use the new and improved " Dr Jack Kevorkian" style Adel hanging noose. It will cause alot less abrasions and make it easier for the medical examiner to establish the cause of passing. You will probably be safe though because LocMart will lose your final flight plan. <G>
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d what in the quoted text. What I was trying to do
| Quote: | was to warn others that damage is indeed possible, even if not
inevitable, and to look for and treat it. Personally, I think prevention
is even better. Hanging seems so, so permanent somehow. Please don't do
it. We would all miss your advice and knowledge.
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Thanks for intervening, Ed. I shall put away the nasty cable ties
and press on to fight another day.
Sam Buchanan
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shempdowling2(at)earthlin
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:31 am Post subject: high temp cable ties |
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I see tie wraps on certified planes all the time. What gives?
Shemp/Jeff Dowling
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khorton01(at)rogers.com
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:45 pm Post subject: high temp cable ties |
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Did they have tie wraps to the engine mount when they were delivered
from the factory, or where they added later?
Kevin Horton
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I see tie wraps on certified planes all the time. What gives?
Shemp/Jeff Dowling
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