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ces308

Joined: 03 Nov 2008
Posts: 317
Location: houghton lake ,mi

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:48 am Post subject: Re: Starting Problem

well...I talked to Chris at Jabiru in Tenn and unless I want to pay $480.00 for a new started I'm screwed...Basically he said see if you  can cobble the bearing back in the hole....



not the answer I was looking for...back to the hangar.....



chris ambrose

wypaul

Joined: 08 Jun 2007
Posts: 24

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: Starting Problem

Chris,



Not sure what number you tried but the number for Jabiru Pacific is 559-431-1701.  Jim will help you out.

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Paul Spackman
Q-2 Jabiru 3300

info(at)flylightning.net
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:58 pm Post subject: Starting Problem

Chris,



Is this the oilite bronze bushing in the nose of the starter cone?



Nick

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pete(at)usjabiru.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:59 pm Post subject: Starting Problem

Jabiru Pacific is open for business and the phone works fine.  I just called

him.  So before passing on inaccurate info (and potentially damaging info)

you should check the number you dialed to make sure it is 559-431-1701



Pete



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pete(at)usjabiru.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:01 pm Post subject: Starting Problem

You might try taking the starter to an automotive electrical rebuild shop.



Pete



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ces308

Joined: 03 Nov 2008
Posts: 317
Location: houghton lake ,mi

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: Starting Problem

Thank you Paul...



I took the starter apart and found that the front bearing came out of where it was supposed to be .I have to  get the pinion gear off them press the bearing back into it's spot...then punch the edges so it won't come out again.  Hope to be back in the air tomorrow !



chris ambrose

M3X/A-2200 jab    106 hrs

N327CS

max.givan(at)ngc.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:55 pm Post subject: Starting Problem

But do NOT tell them is off of an airplane. Most shops wont touch

airplane repairs due to concern over legal liability



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brooksrv6(at)hotmail.com
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:29 am Post subject: Starting Problem

Chris, I see the "cobbling" possibility we discussed  yesterday is the route you decided to take. In addition to any staking you may  be able to do on that bearing I would still consider the Locktite 620 retaining  compound I also suggested yesterday. Sorry I couldn't be more help,  but I'm not that familiar with the Bosch starter.

 Chris Brooks

  

  

  

  

 Thank you Paul...

       

      I took the starter apart and found that the  front bearing came out of where it

      was  supposed to be .I have to  get the pinion gear off them press the  bearing

      back into it's spot...then punch the  edges so it won't come out again.  Hope  to

      be back in the air tomorrow  !

      

      chris  ambrose

      M3X/A-2200 jab    106  hrs

      N327CS

       



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flyadive(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:58 am Post subject: Starting Problem

Chris:



Did he really say COBBLE?  Other than shoe repair and round rocks...

To cobble something is to assemble hastily or clumsily.



 	  Quote: 	
		  From what I read this is a PRESS FIT gear that engages with the ring

gear of the engine?  If this is the case ... DUMP THE STARTER!  You
	


NEVER want a press fit in an application that takes shear loads.

Bring the starter to a STARTER/ALTERNATOR repair shop.  They will be

able to rebuild it correctly.  Other wise jump all over the supplier.

What MAROON designed that starter engine combination or starter gear

combination.  They should make good on it, other wise they are just

going to get a bad reputation.



Barry

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:39 PM, flylightning <info(at)flylightning.net> wrote:

[quote] 



 Chris,



 Is this the oilite bronze bushing in the nose of the starter cone?



 Nick

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pete(at)usjabiru.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:55 am Post subject: Starting Problem

We have not found that to be the case



Pete



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pete(at)usjabiru.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:54 am Post subject: Starting Problem

Oh No!  Now the MAROON's are designing things?  I always thought design

authority was limited to Greens and Violets with assistance from the Teals.



Pete



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ces308

Joined: 03 Nov 2008
Posts: 317
Location: houghton lake ,mi

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:04 am Post subject: Re: Starting Problem

i GUESS BY "COBBLE" I mean,since the MFG has no fix for it,then do whatever it takes to fix the problem...I fixed the problem and this won't happen again...If anyone out there has the problem of the front bearing coming out and moving back into the armature,Let me know and I will tell you how to fix it.



Chris,I didn't mean to sound disrespectful to you on line yesterday...I guess I was a little disappointed in Jabiru more than anything.Thank you for your input and help !



Thanks all for your help,



chris ambrose

M3X/Jab    106hrs

N327CS

N1BZRich(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:26 pm Post subject: Starting Problem

Now that's funny.  And speaking of teals, aren't they an endangered  species?

 Buz

  

  In a message dated 3/25/2010 12:54:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  pete(at)usjabiru.com writes:

 [quote]-->    JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "Pete Krotje"    <pete(at)usjabiru.com>



Oh No!  Now the MAROON's are designing    things?  I always thought design

authority was limited to Greens and    Violets with assistance from the Teals.



Pete



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From:    owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com

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Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:55 AM

To:    jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Re:    Starting Problem



--> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: FLYaDIVE    <flyadive(at)gmail.com>



Chris:



Did he really say    COBBLE?  Other than shoe repair and round rocks...

To cobble something    is to assemble hastily or clumsily.



 	  Quote: 	
		  From what I read this is a    PRESS FIT gear that engages with the ring

gear of the engine?  If this    is the case ... DUMP THE STARTER!  You
	


NEVER want a press fit in an    application that takes shear loads.

Bring the starter to a    STARTER/ALTERNATOR repair shop.  They will be

able to rebuild it    correctly.  Other wise jump all over the supplier.

What MAROON    designed that starter engine combination or starter gear

combination.     They should make good on it, other wise they are just

going to get a bad    reputation.



Barry

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:39 PM,    flylightning <info(at)flylightning.net> wrote:

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		   -->    JabiruEngine-List message posted by:    "flylightning"

<info(at)flylightning.net>
	


[quote]

    Chris,



 Is this the oilite bronze bushing in the nose of the    starter cone?



 Nick

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