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frank.hinde(at)hp.com
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:52 pm Post subject: Export to canada

Hey guys,



I am about to sell my experimental 601 to a guy from Canada and he is

going to pick it up on a trailer and drive it back home.



I have to de-register the airplane from the FAA database...thats easy,



Trouble is there is a tiny reference to an "export airworthiness

certificate".



It doesn't say that I actually need one, or which authority requires it

and why. I called my local FSDO and they "wer'nt sure" either, but they

would have to inspect it to give me the certificate....Yikes!..... The

guy has left to go pick up his trailer to come down.



Does anyone know if I actually need this certificate and why?????



Thanks



Frank

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d.goddard(at)ns.sympatico
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:20 pm Post subject: Export to canada

Take a picture of him with the trailer. I'm curious about what you can use 

to move these. I wanted to and agreed to buy a CH-200 about 900 miles away 

from here. Then I couldn't fly it here, or get it flown here. Trucking 

companies showed me the door when I said "aircraft" and the rental companies 

don't do "one way" except U-haul. I just gave up after having the owner on a 

hook for four weeks.

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d.goddard(at)ns.sympatico
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:22 pm Post subject: Export to canada

I don't think you need to worry about it. This is a quote from the COPA site 

about importing amateur built aircraft

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            Importing an amateur-built aircraft was not possible until CAR 

507 Appendix C came into effect in 2002. COPA's action on this issue was 

instrumental in changing the rules so that amateur-builts can now be 

imported from many other countries.



            To import an amateur-built from another country you have two 

ways of doing it (three in the case of lighter aircraft, under 1200 lbs, as 

explained below).



The aircraft can be imported if:



Ø      If the aircraft is not complete and is in the "pre-cover stage" then 

it can be imported and finished in Canada. For most aircraft that means 

wing, fuselage and tail skins are not installed, so that it can have its 

MD-RA pre-cover inspection done. It needs no permission to bring into Canada 

at this stage, just import it (via trailer!) and then register it as a 

project with MD-RA, finish it and have MD-RA do the pre-cover inspection, 

when you are ready.



Ø      If it is finished and flying and has 100 hours total time on the 

airframe then it can be imported as allowed in CAR 507 Appendix C, with only 

an inspection of the finished aircraft when it comes into the country. 

Currently MD-RA is not permitted to do this inspection so TC is doing them.



NOTE: If the aircraft is past the point in construction where the fabric and 

wing skins are installed and does not yet have 100 hrs flying time on it 

then it can't be imported as an amateur-built without taking it back to the 

pre-close up stage.



Ø      In the case of an aircraft that has a stall speed of 39 knots (45 

mph) or less and a gross weight under 1200 lbs, it can be imported at any 

stage at all and registered as a basic ultralight in Canada with a C-I 

registration. The main drawbacks to this category over the amateur-built 

category are that basic ultralights cannot carry passengers and you must 

wear a helmet when flying it.  Consult the COPA Guide to Ultralights for 

more information on this subject.



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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject: Export to canada

Open utility trailers are amazingly cheap to buy (US$700 for a 6 by 8 ft).

Buy one, move the plane and sell the trailer if you don't think you will

ever move the plane in the future.



-- Craig



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larry(at)macsmachine.com
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject: Export to canada

Frank,

I'd make copies of your documents and take pictures 3-views and cockpit 

making certain that the pictures

clearly include the N-numbers on your plane.  Do not remove them unless 

your local FAA inspector suggests

that they should be.  Cert of Airworthiness, POH and all should be in 

one of the pictures as well as the builders

plate.  This way, you've covered all your bases.  Call your local FBO on 

the export airworthiness cert.



Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com



Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis) wrote:



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 Hey guys,



I am about to sell my experimental 601 to a guy from Canada and he is

going to pick it up on a trailer and drive it back home.



I have to de-register the airplane from the FAA database...thats easy,



Trouble is there is a tiny reference to an "export airworthiness

certificate".



It doesn't say that I actually need one, or which authority requires it

and why. I called my local FSDO and they "wer'nt sure" either, but they

would have to inspect it to give me the certificate....Yikes!..... The

guy has left to go pick up his trailer to come down.



Does anyone know if I actually need this certificate and why?????



Thanks



Frank

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frank.hinde(at)hp.com
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:08 pm Post subject: Export to canada

Just put it on a flatbed and haul it...As long as its strapped down its

just fine.



Frank 



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frank.hinde(at)hp.com
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:27 pm Post subject: Export to canada

Thanks Dave.



I got corroborating infor my local FSDO...We're good to go!



Frank 



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d.goddard(at)ns.sympatico
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:06 am Post subject: Export to canada

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bryanmmartin

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:39 pm Post subject: Export to canada

I transported my airplane in a 24 foot cargo trailer. I had to take  

the main wheels and axles off and attach a couple of tool box wheels  

mounted to angle iron on the inside of the main gear springs in order  

to fit between the wheel wells of the trailer. I don't know where you  

could rent one of these trailers but you could probably buy one and  

then sell it after the move and get most of your money back. I paid  

$4,500 for mine new. If you know someone in the landscaping business  

you might be able to make some kind of deal, they often have this  

type of trailer to haul their equipment around in. You might also  

rent a large U-haul truck for a one way trip and it would cost you  

about a dollar a mile.



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