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Ernie
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The inverter for the front cockpit of my airplane had gone bad, so the previous owner moved the inverter for the rear cockpit to the front. But the front and back are 2 different inverters an SBL-40 (for the front) and the SBL-53 (for the rear). The only difference between the 2 according to the manual is the voltage tolerance, the SBL-40 is +/- 4% and the SBL-53 +/- 10%.
I'm assuming it's becuase the frot inverter needs to power both the AI, and the DG.
Here's my question, what's the problem with using a 53 for the front? Which is how I'm currently configured. The one that went bad was also a 53 so my plane basically had 2 53's front and back.
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Ernie
Nanchang CJ-6A
N6315T
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:36 pm Post subject: Inverters |
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The -X in the inverters is basically their wattage. You can use the back one in the front.
Bud Forester at one time wanted to come up with a solid state inverter that could be housed in the mechanical inverter's shell. It was a good idea... Need to check back with him.
Sent from my iPhone
| Quote: | On Jul 2, 2014, at 7:33 PM, "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29(at)gmail.com> wrote:
The inverter for the front cockpit of my airplane had gone bad, so the previous owner moved the inverter for the rear cockpit to the front. But the front and back are 2 different inverters an SBL-40 (for the front) and the SBL-53 (for the rear). The only difference between the 2 according to the manual is the voltage tolerance, the SBL-40 is +/- 4% and the SBL-53 +/- 10%.
I'm assuming it's becuase the frot inverter needs to power both the AI, and the DG.
Here's my question, what's the problem with using a 53 for the front? Which is how I'm currently configured. The one that went bad was also a 53 so my plane basically had 2 53's front and back.
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Ernie
Nanchang CJ-6A
N6315T
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:36 pm Post subject: Inverters |
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Hi Ernie;
I think you may have that backwards. The front inverter (behind the seat) is the SBL 53 which operates the front horizon and the complete gyro compass system. The SBL 40 (aft RH access panel) operates only the rear gyro horizon.
Walt
From: Ernest Martinez (erniel29(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 5:31 PM
To: yak-list (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Inverters
The inverter for the front cockpit of my airplane had gone bad, so the previous owner moved the inverter for the rear cockpit to the front. But the front and back are 2 different inverters an SBL-40 (for the front) and the SBL-53 (for the rear). The only difference between the 2 according to the manual is the voltage tolerance, the SBL-40 is +/- 4% and the SBL-53 +/- 10%.
I'm assuming it's becuase the frot inverter needs to power both the AI, and the DG.
Here's my question, what's the problem with using a 53 for the front? Which is how I'm currently configured. The one that went bad was also a 53 so my plane basically had 2 53's front and back.
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Ernie
Nanchang CJ-6A
N6315T
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wlannon(at)shaw.ca
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:44 pm Post subject: Inverters |
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Ernie;
Contact Jim Bernier. He knows of someone who can repair the inverter. See Doug Sapp’s post of 30/04/14.
Cheers;
Walt
From: Ernest Martinez (erniel29(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 5:31 PM
To: yak-list (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Inverters
The inverter for the front cockpit of my airplane had gone bad, so the previous owner moved the inverter for the rear cockpit to the front. But the front and back are 2 different inverters an SBL-40 (for the front) and the SBL-53 (for the rear). The only difference between the 2 according to the manual is the voltage tolerance, the SBL-40 is +/- 4% and the SBL-53 +/- 10%.
I'm assuming it's becuase the frot inverter needs to power both the AI, and the DG.
Here's my question, what's the problem with using a 53 for the front? Which is how I'm currently configured. The one that went bad was also a 53 so my plane basically had 2 53's front and back.
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Ernie
Nanchang CJ-6A
N6315T
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href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
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Ernie
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:02 am Post subject: Inverters |
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Thanks for the tips Walt.
Ernie
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:44 AM, Walter Lannon <wlannon(at)shaw.ca (wlannon(at)shaw.ca)> wrote:
| Quote: | Ernie;
Contact Jim Bernier. He knows of someone who can repair the inverter. See Doug Sapp’s post of 30/04/14.
Cheers;
Walt
From: Ernest Martinez (erniel29(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 5:31 PM
To: yak-list (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Inverters
The inverter for the front cockpit of my airplane had gone bad, so the previous owner moved the inverter for the rear cockpit to the front. But the front and back are 2 different inverters an SBL-40 (for the front) and the SBL-53 (for the rear). The only difference between the 2 according to the manual is the voltage tolerance, the SBL-40 is +/- 4% and the SBL-53 +/- 10%.
I'm assuming it's becuase the frot inverter needs to power both the AI, and the DG.
Here's my question, what's the problem with using a 53 for the front? Which is how I'm currently configured. The one that went bad was also a 53 so my plane basically had 2 53's front and back.
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Ernie
Nanchang CJ-6A
N6315T
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GeorgeCoy
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:58 am Post subject: Inverters |
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There are solid state replacements available as well.
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 6:02 AM
To: yak-list
Subject: Re: Inverters
Thanks for the tips Walt.
Ernie
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:44 AM, Walter Lannon <wlannon(at)shaw.ca (wlannon(at)shaw.ca)> wrote:
Ernie;
Contact Jim Bernier. He knows of someone who can repair the inverter. See Doug Sapp’s post of 30/04/14.
Cheers;
Walt
From: Ernest Martinez (erniel29(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 5:31 PM
To: yak-list (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Inverters
The inverter for the front cockpit of my airplane had gone bad, so the previous owner moved the inverter for the rear cockpit to the front. But the front and back are 2 different inverters an SBL-40 (for the front) and the SBL-53 (for the rear). The only difference between the 2 according to the manual is the voltage tolerance, the SBL-40 is +/- 4% and the SBL-53 +/- 10%.
I'm assuming it's becuase the frot inverter needs to power both the AI, and the DG.
Here's my question, what's the problem with using a 53 for the front? Which is how I'm currently configured. The one that went bad was also a 53 so my plane basically had 2 53's front and back.
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Ernie
Nanchang CJ-6A
N6315T
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Ernie
Nanchang CJ-6A
N6315T
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Ernie
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Do tell
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 8:57 AM, George S. Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com (george.coy(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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There are solid state replacements available as well.
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 6:02 AM
To: yak-list
Subject: Re: Inverters
Thanks for the tips Walt.
Ernie
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:44 AM, Walter Lannon <wlannon(at)shaw.ca (wlannon(at)shaw.ca)> wrote:
Ernie;
Contact Jim Bernier. He knows of someone who can repair the inverter. See Doug Sapp’s post of 30/04/14.
Cheers;
Walt
From: Ernest Martinez (erniel29(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 5:31 PM
To: yak-list (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Inverters
The inverter for the front cockpit of my airplane had gone bad, so the previous owner moved the inverter for the rear cockpit to the front. But the front and back are 2 different inverters an SBL-40 (for the front) and the SBL-53 (for the rear). The only difference between the 2 according to the manual is the voltage tolerance, the SBL-40 is +/- 4% and the SBL-53 +/- 10%.
I'm assuming it's becuase the frot inverter needs to power both the AI, and the DG.
Here's my question, what's the problem with using a 53 for the front? Which is how I'm currently configured. The one that went bad was also a 53 so my plane basically had 2 53's front and back.
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Ernie
Nanchang CJ-6A
N6315T
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Ernie
Nanchang CJ-6A
N6315T
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Ernie
Nanchang CJ-6A
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 6:51 am Post subject: Inverters |
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Ernie,About the inverters, no problems using a SBL53 in the front position, that's where is should be. Note that 53's are at least twice as hard to find than the 40's, more expensive too. Should you want/need a 40, I have them in stock.
About the light bulbs: I have them in stock.
Have a great 4th!
Doug
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]The inverter for the front cockpit of my airplane had gone bad, so the previous owner moved the inverter for the rear cockpit to the front. But the front and back are 2 different inverters an SBL-40 (for the front) and the SBL-53 (for the rear). The only difference between the 2 according to the manual is the voltage tolerance, the SBL-40 is +/- 4% and the SBL-53 +/- 10%.
I'm assuming it's becuase the frot inverter needs to power both the AI, and the DG.
Here's my question, what's the problem with using a 53 for the front? Which is how I'm currently configured. The one that went bad was also a 53 so my plane basically had 2 53's front and back.
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Ernie
Nanchang CJ-6A
N6315T
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wlannon(at)shaw.ca
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:27 am Post subject: Inverters |
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George;
Any info on maker, Part no., etc? Thanks
Walt
From: George S. Coy (george.coy(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 5:57 AM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Inverters
There are solid state replacements available as well.
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 6:02 AM
To: yak-list
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Inverters
Thanks for the tips Walt.
Ernie
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:44 AM, Walter Lannon <wlannon(at)shaw.ca (wlannon(at)shaw.ca)> wrote:
Ernie;
Contact Jim Bernier. He knows of someone who can repair the inverter. See Doug Sapp’s post of 30/04/14.
Cheers;
Walt
From: Ernest Martinez (erniel29(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 5:31 PM
To: yak-list (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Inverters
The inverter for the front cockpit of my airplane had gone bad, so the previous owner moved the inverter for the rear cockpit to the front. But the front and back are 2 different inverters an SBL-40 (for the front) and the SBL-53 (for the rear). The only difference between the 2 according to the manual is the voltage tolerance, the SBL-40 is +/- 4% and the SBL-53 +/- 10%.
I'm assuming it's becuase the frot inverter needs to power both the AI, and the DG.
Here's my question, what's the problem with using a 53 for the front? Which is how I'm currently configured. The one that went bad was also a 53 so my plane basically had 2 53's front and back.
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Ernie
Nanchang CJ-6A
N6315T
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Ernie
Nanchang CJ-6A
N6315T
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Ernie
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:28 am Post subject: Inverters |
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Thanks Doug,
I'll be ordering inverter next week, purchased LED bulbs online.
Ernie
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:51 AM, doug sapp <dougsappllc(at)gmail.com (dougsappllc(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Ernie,About the inverters, no problems using a SBL53 in the front position, that's where is should be. Note that 53's are at least twice as hard to find than the 40's, more expensive too. Should you want/need a 40, I have them in stock.
About the light bulbs: I have them in stock.
Have a great 4th!
Doug
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | The inverter for the front cockpit of my airplane had gone bad, so the previous owner moved the inverter for the rear cockpit to the front. But the front and back are 2 different inverters an SBL-40 (for the front) and the SBL-53 (for the rear). The only difference between the 2 according to the manual is the voltage tolerance, the SBL-40 is +/- 4% and the SBL-53 +/- 10%.
I'm assuming it's becuase the frot inverter needs to power both the AI, and the DG.
Here's my question, what's the problem with using a 53 for the front? Which is how I'm currently configured. The one that went bad was also a 53 so my plane basically had 2 53's front and back.
--
Ernie
Nanchang CJ-6A
N6315T
et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
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Ernie
Nanchang CJ-6A
N6315T
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GeorgeCoy
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 8:15 am Post subject: Inverters |
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Is it a 36v 3 phase or the 115 volt 3 phase. I assume 400 Hz. These are a common inverter. I will look around. I had several years ago that we put in Yaks to save the weight.
George
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Walter Lannon
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:27 AM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Inverters
George;
Any info on maker, Part no., etc? Thanks
Walt
From: George S. Coy (george.coy(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 5:57 AM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Inverters
There are solid state replacements available as well.
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 6:02 AM
To: yak-list
Subject: Re: Inverters
Thanks for the tips Walt.
Ernie
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:44 AM, Walter Lannon <wlannon(at)shaw.ca (wlannon(at)shaw.ca)> wrote:
Ernie;
Contact Jim Bernier. He knows of someone who can repair the inverter. See Doug Sapp’s post of 30/04/14.
Cheers;
Walt
From: Ernest Martinez (erniel29(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 5:31 PM
To: yak-list (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Inverters
The inverter for the front cockpit of my airplane had gone bad, so the previous owner moved the inverter for the rear cockpit to the front. But the front and back are 2 different inverters an SBL-40 (for the front) and the SBL-53 (for the rear). The only difference between the 2 according to the manual is the voltage tolerance, the SBL-40 is +/- 4% and the SBL-53 +/- 10%.
I'm assuming it's becuase the frot inverter needs to power both the AI, and the DG.
Here's my question, what's the problem with using a 53 for the front? Which is how I'm currently configured. The one that went bad was also a 53 so my plane basically had 2 53's front and back.
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Ernie
Nanchang CJ-6A
N6315T
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Ernie
Nanchang CJ-6A
N6315T
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wlannon(at)shaw.ca
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:48 pm Post subject: Inverters |
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George;
They are 3 Phase 36 VAC, 400 Hz.
Walt
From: George S. Coy (george.coy(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:14 AM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Inverters
Is it a 36v 3 phase or the 115 volt 3 phase. I assume 400 Hz. These are a common inverter. I will look around. I had several years ago that we put in Yaks to save the weight.
George
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Walter Lannon
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:27 AM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Inverters
George;
Any info on maker, Part no., etc? Thanks
Walt
From: George S. Coy (george.coy(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 5:57 AM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Inverters
There are solid state replacements available as well.
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 6:02 AM
To: yak-list
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Inverters
Thanks for the tips Walt.
Ernie
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:44 AM, Walter Lannon <wlannon(at)shaw.ca (wlannon(at)shaw.ca)> wrote:
Ernie;
Contact Jim Bernier. He knows of someone who can repair the inverter. See Doug Sapp’s post of 30/04/14.
Cheers;
Walt
From: Ernest Martinez (erniel29(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 5:31 PM
To: yak-list (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Inverters
The inverter for the front cockpit of my airplane had gone bad, so the previous owner moved the inverter for the rear cockpit to the front. But the front and back are 2 different inverters an SBL-40 (for the front) and the SBL-53 (for the rear). The only difference between the 2 according to the manual is the voltage tolerance, the SBL-40 is +/- 4% and the SBL-53 +/- 10%.
I'm assuming it's becuase the frot inverter needs to power both the AI, and the DG.
Here's my question, what's the problem with using a 53 for the front? Which is how I'm currently configured. The one that went bad was also a 53 so my plane basically had 2 53's front and back.
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Harv
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Good thread!
Walt
Have you managed to swap the original cj6's inverter internals for a lightweight modern alternative and keep them in the same housings?
What weight saving are we looking at here per unit?
Rgs
Harv
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