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tonyrenshaw268(at)gmail.c
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:25 pm Post subject: Carbon Fibre Retractable Maingear

Hi Nigel,Building a Bob Berube Taildragger downunder, and your gear looks interesting, and in the single photo, simply great. Where do you intend to mount it, and how will you reinforce that area please? I can only imagine it will be like the Swiss taildraggers, just aft of the rudder pedal shelf. I’d be keen to know what method you used to layup the carbon fibre, whether you vacuum bagged it etc, and I’m quite sure all of us would be keen to know more on using carbon to make larger thickness structural components, vs layup based applications. I would anyway. Good luck with the project. Lastly, can you explain how the articulating goes on inside that central bit, what the design allows for, what drives it? 

Regards

Tony Renshaw

P.S. As I don’t have a mono wheel in the way and it would be very easy for me probably to install,  I’d be very interested if you commercialised your mod once you proof test it all and get it up and running. Its taking me so long to progress, that “what is a another mod”. 



On 27 Aug 2014, at 12:28 am, Nigel Graham <nigel_graham(at)m-tecque.co.uk (nigel_graham(at)m-tecque.co.uk)> wrote:

[quote]--> Europa-List message posted by: Nigel Graham <nigel_graham(at)m-tecque.co.uk (nigel_graham(at)m-tecque.co.uk)>



Hi Paul,



Yes, In theory, I can make the gear legs any length I want to give me a sensible ground clearance. This set can let me swing  up to a 70" prop if I want  (i.e. if the engine will allow) with full deflection and flat tyres. The gear leg length has to be designed with the tail wheel in mind to ensure that the ground angle does not exceed 16 degrees to allow me to three-point it before stalling.

The brake lines will run down the front trough in the "I" beam with flexible connectors by the pivots.

I'll dig out some more pictures later but am rushing to get things ready for the rally.



Nigel



On 26/08/2014 18:34, Paul McAllister wrote:

[quote]--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.the.aviator(at)gmail.com (paul.the.aviator(at)gmail.com)>



Hi Nigel,



I have a couple of questions:



Could you tell me if there is an increase in ground clearance over the mono?

Where in are the wheels in relation to the MAC ?

Are the brake lines internal to the gear?



Some more pictures would be great!!



Thanks, Paul



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Fred Klein

Joined: 26 Mar 2012
Posts: 503

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:47 am Post subject: Carbon Fibre Retractable Maingear

Having seen a number of photos of Nigel’s Europa Mark IV, I say “Hat’s Off” to this talented, meticulous, and intrepid innovator…F.



On Aug 27, 2014, at 12:24 AM, Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268(at)gmail.com (tonyrenshaw268(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

[quote]Hi Nigel,Building a Bob Berube Taildragger downunder, and your gear looks interesting, and in the single photo, simply great. Where do you intend to mount it, and how will you reinforce that area please? I can only imagine it will be like the Swiss taildraggers, just aft of the rudder pedal shelf. I’d be keen to know what method you used to layup the carbon fibre, whether you vacuum bagged it etc, and I’m quite sure all of us would be keen to know more on using carbon to make larger thickness structural components, vs layup based applications. I would anyway. Good luck with the project. Lastly, can you explain how the articulating goes on inside that central bit, what the design allows for, what drives it? 

Regards

Tony Renshaw

P.S. As I don’t have a mono wheel in the way and it would be very easy for me probably to install,  I’d be very interested if you commercialised your mod once you proof test it all and get it up and running. Its taking me so long to progress, that “what is a another mod”. 



On 27 Aug 2014, at 12:28 am, Nigel Graham <nigel_graham(at)m-tecque.co.uk (nigel_graham(at)m-tecque.co.uk)> wrote:

[quote]--> Europa-List message posted by: Nigel Graham <nigel_graham(at)m-tecque.co.uk (nigel_graham(at)m-tecque.co.uk)>



Hi Paul,



Yes, In theory, I can make the gear legs any length I want to give me a sensible ground clearance. This set can let me swing  up to a 70" prop if I want  (i.e. if the engine will allow) with full deflection and flat tyres. The gear leg length has to be designed with the tail wheel in mind to ensure that the ground angle does not exceed 16 degrees to allow me to three-point it before stalling.

The brake lines will run down the front trough in the "I" beam with flexible connectors by the pivots.

I'll dig out some more pictures later but am rushing to get things ready for the rally.



Nigel



On 26/08/2014 18:34, Paul McAllister wrote:

[quote]--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.the.aviator(at)gmail.com (paul.the.aviator(at)gmail.com)>



Hi Nigel,



I have a couple of questions:



Could you tell me if there is an increase in ground clearance over the mono?

Where in are the wheels in relation to the MAC ?

Are the brake lines internal to the gear?



Some more pictures would be great!!



Thanks, Paul



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nigel_graham(at)m-tecque.
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:40 am Post subject: Carbon Fibre Retractable Maingear

Hi Tony,

     

     All the answers to your questions plus the background information     and pictures can be found in an article I wrote for the "Europa     Flyer" club magazine. Look out EF76 that appeared in March 2013.     This does of course assume that you are a club member!

     

     Nigel

     

     On 27/08/2014 08:24, Tony Renshaw       wrote:

     

     [quote]              Hi Nigel,       Building a Bob Berube Taildragger downunder, and your gear         looks interesting, and in the single photo, simply great. Where         do you intend to mount it, and how will you reinforce that area         please? I can only imagine it will be like the Swiss         taildraggers, just aft of the rudder pedal shelf. I’d be keen to         know what method you used to layup the carbon fibre, whether you         vacuum bagged it etc, and I’m quite sure all of us would be keen         to know more on using carbon to make larger thickness structural         components, vs layup based applications. I would anyway. Good         luck with the project. Lastly, can you explain how the         articulating goes on inside that central bit, what the design         allows for, what drives it? 

       Regards

       Tony Renshaw

       P.S. As I don’t have a mono wheel in the way and it would be         very easy for me probably to install,  I’d be very interested if         you commercialised your mod once you proof test it all and get         it up and running. Its taking me so long to progress, that “what         is a another mod”. 

       

                    On 27 Aug 2014, at 12:28 am, Nigel Graham <nigel_graham(at)m-tecque.co.uk (nigel_graham(at)m-tecque.co.uk)>             wrote:

           

         

       

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nigel_graham(at)m-tecque.
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:41 am Post subject: Carbon Fibre Retractable Maingear

That's very kind of you to say so Fred ..... your cheque (check) is     in the post 

     

     

     

     On 27/08/2014 16:46, Fred Klein wrote:

     

     [quote]              Having seen a number of photos of Nigel’s Europa Mark IV, I say       “Hat’s Off” to this talented, meticulous, and intrepid       innovator…F.       

       

       

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tonyrenshaw268(at)gmail.c
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:49 pm Post subject: Carbon Fibre Retractable Maingear

Nope. It doesn’t work for all of us foreign types, what with methods of payment, complexities with dealing with foreign banks etc. etc. I’m sure if you look at the membership you’ll see my point.TR



On 27 Aug 2014, at 9:39 pm, Nigel Graham <nigel_graham(at)m-tecque.co.uk (nigel_graham(at)m-tecque.co.uk)> wrote:

[quote]                   Hi Tony,

     

     All the answers to your questions plus the background information     and pictures can be found in an article I wrote for the "Europa     Flyer" club magazine. Look out EF76 that appeared in March 2013.     This does of course assume that you are a club member!

     

     Nigel

     

     On 27/08/2014 08:24, Tony Renshaw       wrote:

     

      	  Quote: 	
		                Hi Nigel,       Building a Bob Berube Taildragger downunder, and your gear         looks interesting, and in the single photo, simply great. Where         do you intend to mount it, and how will you reinforce that area         please? I can only imagine it will be like the Swiss         taildraggers, just aft of the rudder pedal shelf. I’d be keen to         know what method you used to layup the carbon fibre, whether you         vacuum bagged it etc, and I’m quite sure all of us would be keen         to know more on using carbon to make larger thickness structural         components, vs layup based applications. I would anyway. Good         luck with the project. Lastly, can you explain how the         articulating goes on inside that central bit, what the design         allows for, what drives it? 

       Regards

       Tony Renshaw

       P.S. As I don’t have a mono wheel in the way and it would be         very easy for me probably to install,  I’d be very interested if         you commercialised your mod once you proof test it all and get         it up and running. Its taking me so long to progress, that “what         is a another mod”. 

       

                    On 27 Aug 2014, at 12:28 am, Nigel Graham <nigel_graham(at)m-tecque.co.uk (nigel_graham(at)m-tecque.co.uk)>             wrote:

           

         

       

     



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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:33 am Post subject: Re: Carbon Fibre Retractable Maingear

Tony,



The payment options for the Europa Club have been simplified and made easier for those of us not in the UK.  Give it a try.



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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:57 am Post subject: Carbon Fibre Retractable Maingear

I can second that!Â  Easy-peasy now - even for a Canuck like me.



Â Definitely worth a try - the mag is excellent quality and I find it well worth it to feel a bit connected with the Europa epicenter 

  



Cheers,

Pete

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