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LHusky(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:21 pm Post subject: Plans builder HELP!!!

OK, I live in the desert!  It is 100 miles to the nearest Taco  Bell.  I am 320 miles from my building buddy who is also building a  601XL.  I am at a point in my fuselage where I need to flange my  holes.  The holes are cut, just needs flanged.  I bought a 2 wheel  flanging tool from Aircraft Tool Supply because Aircraft Spruce is back  ordered.  They said the company has been back ordered for some time now and  the manufacture said it will be at least another month, so I bought this  one.  IT STINKS!!!  It took me 30 minutes to mess up a perfectly good  hole.  It won't be seen, so that is the good news.  I am wanting to  build my center wing spar, but I have to flange the holes first and the front  one can be seen if someone at a fly in looks hard enough. 

  

 I have been all over town trying to find someone who can make these dye's  for me and there just is no equipment here to do it.  I don't care if they  are made of silly putty!!  Does anyone know someone who can make them, or  does anyone have a set they would be willing to sell or rent to me.  I am  running out of things to do on the fuse now.  I still have wings to build  after the fuse!!  I could continue using the tool I just bought, but I  really hate using it.  My building buddy already has a lot on his plate and  needs his tools right now.  We were neck and neck in the build, but he has  long passed me.  I looked at the Sonex site, but there's is smaller and I  would rather stay with the plans.  Any help would be appreciated.  I  work as a police officer and a correctional officer, so I don't have a lot of  time to look for these specialty tools, especially in the middle of  NOWHERE!!!  I will take wood, metal, plastic, or even dried mud dye's right  now.  

  

 Thanks, 

  

 Larry Husky 

 Lakeview, OR 

 Building Fuse, but thinking about building the engine  instead!!

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dougsnash(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:21 pm Post subject: Plans builder HELP!!!

I got stung by Spruce's backorder of the flanging tool

too.  I then noticed that the replacement wheels were

made by Avery.  A little bit of thought suggested that

if the wheels were made by Avery, the tool must be

too. I called Avery and the tool arrived in about four

days.  Exactly what was in the Spruce catalog. I don't

know why the Spruce Goose is having so much trouble

getting them.



Doug MacDonald

CH-701 Scratch builder

Working on Elevator



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LHusky(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:39 pm Post subject: Plans builder HELP!!!

Doug, how did they work for you.  I really wanted the Avery flanging  tool.  Mine came in and has big wheels that are metal.  Would not be  bad for something thicker than what we are using on our planes, but I don't like  the metal wheels.  

  

 Larry

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larry(at)macsmachine.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:45 am Post subject: Plans builder HELP!!!

Larry,

The two bearing flanging tool only requires a little patience and 

practice on several spare pieces of aluminum to get it down correctly.  

I'd recommend you work on the

technique on some scrap aluminum and try again.  I've made and used this 

kind of flanging tool several times, but it always took a little 

practice to get it right.



Larry McFarland - 601HDS

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LHusky(at)aol.com wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   OK, I live in the desert!  It is 100 miles to the nearest Taco Bell.  

 I am 320 miles from my building buddy who is also building a 601XL.  I 

 am at a point in my fuselage where I need to flange my holes.  The 

 holes are cut, just needs flanged.  I bought a 2 wheel flanging tool 

 from Aircraft Tool Supply because Aircraft Spruce is back ordered.  

 They said the company has been back ordered for some time now and the 

 manufacture said it will be at least another month, so I bought this 

 one.  IT STINKS!!!  It took me 30 minutes to mess up a perfectly good 

 hole.  It won't be seen, so that is the good news.  I am wanting to 

 build my center wing spar, but I have to flange the holes first and 

 the front one can be seen if someone at a fly in looks hard enough. 

  

 I have been all over town trying to find someone who can make these 

 dye's for me and there just is no equipment here to do it.  I don't 

 care if they are made of silly putty!!  Does anyone know someone who 

 can make them, or does anyone have a set they would be willing to sell 

 or rent to me.  I am running out of things to do on the fuse now.  I 

 still have wings to build after the fuse!!  I could continue using the 

 tool I just bought, but I really hate using it.  My building buddy 

 already has a lot on his plate and needs his tools right now.  We were 

 neck and neck in the build, but he has long passed me.  I looked at 

 the Sonex site, but there's is smaller and I would rather stay with 

 the plans.  Any help would be appreciated.  I work as a police officer 

 and a correctional officer, so I don't have a lot of time to look for 

 these specialty tools, especially in the middle of NOWHERE!!!  I will 

 take wood, metal, plastic, or even dried mud dye's right now. 

  

 Thanks,

  

 Larry Husky

 Lakeview, OR

 Building Fuse, but thinking about building the engine instead!!

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Flydog1966(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:20 am Post subject: Plans builder HELP!!!

My .02cents.   I made my flanging dies out of red oak.  It  split in half on the grain the first time I used it !  Actually I had a  machine shop make 'em for me. Was'nt cheap. Glued it back together, and  reinforced it with a large hose clamp.Also put a disc of plywood on the back  side as I was using the bolt and nut method to draw them together. Did not break  again, but the results were very poor. I had a real hard time getting that bolt  tightened down enough to do the job,was actually stripping the threads off !  What I found thou was that if I "pre-flange" them with the dies, then follow  that up with that 2 nylon wheel gizmo, I got excellent results.

  Could also get good results with the wheel flanger only,just takes  practice,and its way cheaper than having those dies made for me.Live and  learn.

    You results may vary. do not  arcive.

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rjscep(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:30 pm Post subject: Plans builder HELP!!!

 	  Quote: 	
		   After a couple of months pondering how to put a 

 flange in a lightning hole. A friend suggested a 

 flanging tool that could be used in a drill press.

 I finally came up with a tool that works like a 

 circle cutter. The end of the tool houses  the two

 bearings that flange the hole. As soon as get the 

 picture of the tool on here, I will show to all of 

 you. 

 Thanks for your patience. Bob Sceppa


	


--- Flydog1966(at)aol.com wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   My .02cents.   I made my flanging dies out of red

 oak.  It  split in half on 

 the grain the first time I used it !  Actually I had

 a  machine shop make 'em 

 for me. Was'nt cheap. Glued it back together, and 

 reinforced it with a large 

 hose clamp.Also put a disc of plywood on the back 

 side as I was using the 

 bolt and nut method to draw them together. Did not

 break  again, but the results 

 were very poor. I had a real hard time getting that

 bolt  tightened down 

 enough to do the job,was actually stripping the

 threads off !  What I found thou 

 was that if I "pre-flange" them with the dies, then

 follow  that up with that 2 

 nylon wheel gizmo, I got excellent results.

  Could also get good results with the wheel flanger

 only,just takes  

 practice,and its way cheaper than having those dies

 made for me.Live and  learn.

    You results may vary. do not  arcive.

 


	




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