 |
Matronics Email Lists
Web Forum Interface to the Matronics Email Lists
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
Guest
|
 Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:40 pm Post subject: Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor malcolm |
 |
|
Can any body remember how this all started? I think a farley new guy asked about a motor considering to buy an old kit. I wonder how this guy feels about the question now. I think the correct answer to his question mite be something like this a motor that old is not worth very much, almost all the parts are available a lot of people are still flying them. a kit that old is not worth a lot of money but almost everyone that fly's them really like them. mal
| | - The Matronics Kitfox-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
bsmith3163(at)aol.com
Guest
|
| Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:11 am Post subject: Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor malcolm |
|
|
Yea, I guess that I started this thing. I am still looking at that kit but am not ready to jump into it at this time. I am a furloughed AA pilot and I was looking for something that I could go flying with my son on the weekends. It would have to be VERY cost effective because of the furloughed thing. It was looking like I could have a complete flying airplane for under 10K. Now I don't think that I would put my son in it without a new engine. That about blows the 10K thing out of the water. I am in love with the folding wings thing. Keep it in my garage and I have a friend about two miles down the road with a 1800 grass strip, it dosen't get very much better than that. So I will keep looking and hope something comes up. I want to thank Al also. He hooked me up with this e-mail group and I am enjoying it very much. Brian Smith.
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:40 PM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor malcolm
Can any body remember how this all started? I think a farley new guy asked about a motor considering to buy an old kit. I wonder how this guy feels about the question now. I think the correct answer to his question mite be something like this a motor that old is not worth very much, almost all the parts are available a lot of people are still flying them. a kit that old is not worth a lot of money but almost everyone that fly's them really like them. mal
| | - The Matronics Kitfox-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
bmwebb(at)cox.net
Guest
|
| Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:25 am Post subject: Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor malcolm |
|
|
This is precisely why I went with the Geo. It uses 2gph, the core motor cost is $300, and the total rebuild was $500, including pistons, valve train, gaskets, the works. You basically end up with a zero time motor, and parts are never farther than the local auto parts store. The redrive system is expensive, but you only buy that once. You can get a second motor, build it up as a spare, and have well less than $5000 in both (BTW, that’s redrive, prop, everything). Some of the guys do this for their trikes (and I plan to, as well). If the Geo does crap out, just load up your spare and go fly. Theoretically, you could replace a Geo core at annual every year with a decent low time motor (do nothing to it), and spend next to nothing on it over the course of a year's flying. Not really practical, but you could if you wanted to. Cost per hour would be maybe $20-$25, depending on the hours flown?
Not a Geo plug, just why I went with it over the other choices. The 582 was just too darned expensive to maintain and operate, required way too much maintenance, and I had to mail order every single part. All that for 4-7 gph, loose fillings, and numb feet.
As long as the Rotax was there, my sons only got one flight each. I couldn’t trust it enough to risk them. My butt is one thing, but theirs is another altogether.
I wanted to fly for fun, and not spend a small fortune on it. If I wanted to totally waste money, I'd have a boat.
BTW, I don't like folding my wings as a regular practice. Seems to be a bit of a PITA for that on a daily basis. However, it is super nice to be able to fold to get it around when needed. Sometimes I like to just go for just 30 minutes, and trailering wouldn't really be practical for that sort of flying. Maybe your friend would let you park at the strip?
Bradley
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Smith
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:11 AM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Re: Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor malcolm
Yea, I guess that I started this thing. I am still looking at that kit but am not ready to jump into it at this time. I am a furloughed AA pilot and I was looking for something that I could go flying with my son on the weekends. It would have to be VERY cost effective because of the furloughed thing. It was looking like I could have a complete flying airplane for under 10K. Now I don't think that I would put my son in it without a new engine. That about blows the 10K thing out of the water. I am in love with the folding wings thing. Keep it in my garage and I have a friend about two miles down the road with a 1800 grass strip, it dosen't get very much better than that. So I will keep looking and hope something comes up. I want to thank Al also. He hooked me up with this e-mail group and I am enjoying it very much. Brian Smith.
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:40 PM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor malcolm
Can any body remember how this all started? I think a farley new guy asked about a motor considering to buy an old kit. I wonder how this guy feels about the question now. I think the correct answer to his question mite be something like this a motor that old is not worth very much, almost all the parts are available a lot of people are still flying them. a kit that old is not worth a lot of money but almost everyone that fly's them really like them. mal
| | - The Matronics Kitfox-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca
Guest
|
| Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject: Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor malcolm |
|
|
I half.... Ok more than half agree with you. Everything I've seen on the Geo Suzi engine has been good. Yes the 2stroke anything will require more maintenance than almost anything 4stroke. but.... Yep here it comes .... the 2 stroke is so much lighter. As for fuel consumption youhave me there....hands down!
What's this about loose fillings and numb feet. I've spent most of my time behincd a Lyc. in a 172 Spam can. and I can tell you there is no more vibration from my "R"
As for folding the wings.... Every time I fly. If I have a beef it's with installing the turtle deck. I've flown with the doors open maybe it will fly nice with the turtle deck back on the ground. On the other hand I have a 1/4 wave com. antenna mounted on my one piece deck.
Fly Fish, Fly Floats, Fly Safe!
Noel [quote]
--
| | - The Matronics Kitfox-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
bmwebb(at)cox.net
Guest
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:24 am Post subject: Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor malcolm |
|
|
Just a bit tongue-in-cheek. I was referring to the nasty shake on startup and shutdown. And the high-pitch “buzz” from it while flying did numb my foot a bit. In fact, it was the only complaint by my oldest son about his ride. I think maybe in the Lycoming/172, there’s more weight dampening and insulation? I sure don’t notice it as much.
Ah, weight. There is no beating the two stroke power-to-weight ratio. I figured I would gain about 30lbs with the conversion, and this is contrary to my goal for the airplane of keeping it light. But it was a compromise I had to accept.
Bradley
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel Loveys
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 11:47 PM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Re: Rotax 532 a Boat Anchor malcolm
I half.... Ok more than half agree with you. Everything I've seen on the Geo Suzi engine has been good. Yes the 2stroke anything will require more maintenance than almost anything 4stroke. but.... Yep here it comes .... the 2 stroke is so much lighter. As for fuel consumption youhave me there....hands down!
What's this about loose fillings and numb feet. I've spent most of my time behincd a Lyc. in a 172 Spam can. and I can tell you there is no more vibration from my "R"
As for folding the wings.... Every time I fly. If I have a beef it's with installing the turtle deck. I've flown with the doors open maybe it will fly nice with the turtle deck back on the ground. On the other hand I have a 1/4 wave com. antenna mounted on my one piece deck.
Fly Fish, Fly Floats, Fly Safe!
Noel [quote]
--
| | - The Matronics Kitfox-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
|
Get Email Distribution Too!
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
