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nfivesl(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:15 am Post subject: Introducing (Welded Parts)

Paul M. you kill me.  I had the same "nearly done"

attitude over a year ago. See a few examples below of

welded parts for the 601XL:

Nose gear:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/12_12_04_flange2.JPG

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/12_05_04_NoseGear2.JPG

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/12_07_04_UpperBearing.JPG

Step support:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/3_06_05_Step1.jpg

Gas Strut supports for canopy:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/2_28_05_GasSpringHinge.jpg

Engine mounts:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/7_24_04_BulkheadParts.JPG

Gear Attachments:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/8_26_04_GearAttachJig.JPG

Flap parts:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/11_21_04_Flaps.JPG

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/11_17_04_FlapBracket2.JPG

A box of misc. parts:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/2_02_05_PlatingParts.jpg

Canopy latches and frame:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/6_6_06_Canopy_Latch1.JPG

Steps:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/5_7_05_Steps.jpg

Engine mount bed:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/2_10_05_Bed.JPG

Engine Mount:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/5_9_05_EngineMount.jpg

Starter Brackets:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/8_3_06_Starter_Bracket2.JPG

This is why I know how many welded parts there are:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/12_05_04_Welding.JPG



I'm sure I left out a few but thats a sampling.  



Scott Laughlin

Omaha, Nebraska

(formerly of Katy, Texas)

601XL - 90% done and 90% to go

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/



--- Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att.net> wrote:



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 <p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att.net>


	


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		   I guess I am one of those guys who always asks nosy

 questions.  

 First, which parts on the Zodiac are welded?  ...

Still, I am nearly completed with my XL and I haven't
	


seen any welded parts yet.



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JAPhillipsGA(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:43 am Post subject: Introducing (Welded Parts)

How can you be "nearly done" and0not seen a welded part yet ? Seems strange. You are building a 601XL right ?

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p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:06 am Post subject: Introducing (Welded Parts)

OK, OK, I stand corrected.



I have been building from sub-kits and have not yet reached the 

canopy, gear, controls, or FWF.  I did forget about the welded fuel 

tanks.  (Indeed my memory is so lousy I can't remember what I had for 

lunch yesterday either.)



I promise I will never make any more stupid mistakes again.



Paul

XL fuselage

do not archive

At 06:13 AM 8/10/2006, you wrote:

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Paul M. you kill me.  I had the same "nearly done"

attitude over a year ago. See a few examples below of

welded parts for the 601XL:

Nose gear:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/12_12_04_flange2.JPG

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/12_05_04_NoseGear2.JPG

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/12_07_04_UpperBearing.JPG

Step support:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/3_06_05_Step1.jpg

Gas Strut supports for canopy:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/2_28_05_GasSpringHinge.jpg

Engine mounts:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/7_24_04_BulkheadParts.JPG

Gear Attachments:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/8_26_04_GearAttachJig.JPG

Flap parts:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/11_21_04_Flaps.JPG

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/11_17_04_FlapBracket2.JPG

A box of misc. parts:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/2_02_05_PlatingParts.jpg

Canopy latches and frame:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/6_6_06_Canopy_Latch1.JPG

Steps:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/5_7_05_Steps.jpg

Engine mount bed:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/2_10_05_Bed.JPG

Engine Mount:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/5_9_05_EngineMount.jpg

Starter Brackets:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/8_3_06_Starter_Bracket2.JPG

This is why I know how many welded parts there are:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/12_05_04_Welding.JPG



I'm sure I left out a few but thats a sampling.



Scott Laughlin

Omaha, Nebraska

(formerly of Katy, Texas)

601XL - 90% done and 90% to go

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/

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zodierocket(at)hsfx.ca
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:11 pm Post subject: Introducing (Welded Parts)

Paul, keep making all the mistakes you want! Also, don't ever stop

asking questions. There are many on this list afraid to ask a "stupid"

question so they just plug on without really knowing what they are doing

or they get frustrated and stop work. This goes for all of you! Ask

questions, that's why the people flying stick around this list to answer

the same questions they asked someone else 2 years earlier. As for the

not having seen any wielded parts I just took it that you didn't see any

parts of which you need to wield yourself, and being a kit builder their

is not a single piece you would need to wield as they are all done for

you. 



Here is the ultimate "Stupid" question I get on a regular basis. " Why

can't I use standard hardware store nuts and bolts?" To many of us the

answer is simple and we would never consider using such a low grade of

hardware. But I thank god every time someone asks me that question

because if they didn't know that there was such a huge difference in

quality then they would likely have run out to the Home depot and

install grade 3 or 4 bolts into the spars.



Mark Townsend

Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.

president(at)can-zacaviation.com

www.can-zacaviation.com 



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LHusky(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:25 pm Post subject: Introducing (Welded Parts)

OOPS, guess I need to change those spar bolts.  I also used brillo0 pads instead of scotch brite.  I wanted them to be clean with all that0 foamy stuff.  Is that bad!

  

 JUST KIDDING for all those guys getting ready to hit the reply0 button!  LOL

  

 Larry Husky0 

Lakeview, OR 

601XL / Corvair

Building Fuse



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jhstarn(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:48 pm Post subject: Introducing (Welded Parts)

My ole pappy usta say: "If you don't know something you can ask the question 

& maybe feel foolish for a minute or two, OR you remain silent and be 

ignorant for the rest of your life".

I like to think I always pick the former.

KABONG  HRII Do Not Archive  (GBA & GWB)



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Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:18 am Post subject: Introducing (Welded Parts)

May I echo Mark's remarks on asking questions.  The question that you may

consider "silly" to ask may not only end up saving your life but also the

life of some one else who doesn't have the courage to ask.  Keep it up.  The

other side of the coin is just as valid.  If in your building you see

something that can be improved on discuss it with every one.  The folks at

ZAC will be happy to improve their product and other builders will have the

opportunity to make constructive changes.  Those with built aircraft will

have additional items to check to make their aircraft safer.  Note I didn't

suggest that you start making changes willy nilly but openly discuss any

changes/improvements you perceive.



As for the "Hardware Store" nuts and bolts....  I've seen them on everything

from Ultralites to DHC Beavers.  I've seen them in structural areas and I

still have a problem with any one who owns an expensive aircraft held

together with Canadian Tire (Canada's hardware store) specials.   Believe me

it does happen!  Most of the aircraft I've worked on have regular

inspections and these things get caught but the fact is they should never

have been installed in the first place.



Noel

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 Paul, keep making all the mistakes you want! Also, don't ever stop

 asking questions. There are many on this list afraid to ask a "stupid"

 question so they just plug on without really knowing what 

 they are doing

 or they get frustrated and stop work. This goes for all of you! Ask

 questions, that's why the people flying stick around this 

 list to answer

 the same questions they asked someone else 2 years earlier. As for the

 not having seen any wielded parts I just took it that you 

 didn't see any

 parts of which you need to wield yourself, and being a kit 

 builder their

 is not a single piece you would need to wield as they are all done for

 you. 

 

 Here is the ultimate "Stupid" question I get on a regular basis. " Why

 can't I use standard hardware store nuts and bolts?" To many of us the

 answer is simple and we would never consider using such a low grade of

 hardware. But I thank god every time someone asks me that question

 because if they didn't know that there was such a huge difference in

 quality then they would likely have run out to the Home depot and

 install grade 3 or 4 bolts into the spars.

 

 Mark Townsend

 Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.

 president(at)can-zacaviation.com

 www.can-zacaviation.com

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