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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:01 am    Post subject: Kitfox Runs out of gas - News plus video clip Reply with quote

http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/BO27549/
09/08/2006

Plane goes down in Wareham after aircraft runs out of gas
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WAREHAM, Mass. -- It' s not a pretty picture for a pilot and passenger, who
take off in a plane from Plymouth and plummet into a Wareham cranberry bog.

The pair said plane ran out of gas.

No serious injuries resulted from this small aircraft crash on Blackmore
Pond Road, according to the Federal Aviation Administration.

The plane, which was built in 1999, is a home built Kitfox model aircraft
and is registered to James Lionberger of Marion. However, it is not
confirmed if Lionberger was actually one of the two people on the flight.

(Copyright (c) 2006 Sunbeam Television Corp. All Rights Reserved. This
material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.) JHR


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:28 am    Post subject: Re: Kitfox Runs out of gas - News plus video clip Reply with quote

I'm skeptical that it was as simple as running out of gas. Wareham to Plymouth is 17 miles driving distance. Just the gas in he header tank will take you farther than that. Seems unlikely that they would take off with totally dry main tanks.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:44 am    Post subject: Kitfox Runs out of gas - News plus video clip Reply with quote

If so, then perhaps wing tank caps that came off or were not on in flight

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:20 am    Post subject: Kitfox Runs out of gas - News plus video clip Reply with quote

It would not surprise me at all if someone took off with empty tanks. Some
people don't do a preflight and just go. Also some people will know they are
almost out of fuel but thank that they can make it any way.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:15 am    Post subject: Re: Kitfox Runs out of gas - News plus video clip Reply with quote

The way I see it, this can happen in several ways. One somebody stole his gas and he knew he filled it the day before. Still no excuse, you should always check, not only the site tubes, but if you don't see the line you open the tanks and double check. Next, the pilot hasn't flown very much and just got side tracked and didn't do a preflight. But probably what gets me, is why he took off without fuel, during the day we should have 30 min. left in the tanks to be within faa regs. after landing. right people really go by that stuff. Am I the only one that lands when the tanks get twards the bottom of the sight tubes. Now this is for if the tanks were really empty. From the looks of the plane, who knows, those tanks can empty pretty fast in that possision. So I guess we will never know if it was just fuel starvation or truelly out of gas.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:11 am    Post subject: Kitfox Runs out of gas - News plus video clip Reply with quote

A good crash investigator can tell if there was fuel just buy looking at the
carbs. There are also other ways of telling depending on the aircraft.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:51 am    Post subject: Re: Kitfox Runs out of gas - News plus video clip Reply with quote

I would hate to be that guy if they find that he just didn't have fuel when he left the airport.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:45 am    Post subject: Kitfox Runs out of gas - News plus video clip Reply with quote

.... or perhaps space aliens ....
.....or maybe gasoline-eating bacteria.....

Speculating is such fun.

Brian


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:02 am    Post subject: Kitfox Runs out of gas - News plus video clip Reply with quote

Hi Dave,

I lost 3 gal in 45 minutes when checking my gas cap
seals for leaks. I flew them on their normal sides,
then swapped them. The fuel moved from the well
sealed tank to the poorly sealed tank and leaked out.
Tanks were less than 3/4s full. The pressurized tank
went down to 2 gal.

I am sure a bigger leak or a missing cap could drain
it much faster.

Kurt S. S-5

--- Dave <dave(at)cfisher.com> wrote:

Quote:
If so, then perhaps wing tank caps that came off
or were not on in flight.

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The siphoning could evacuate a tank quickly I
believe but i do not know how
long it would take.

Quote:
Dave

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:16 am    Post subject: Kitfox Runs out of gas - News plus video clip Reply with quote

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>>...I lost 3 gal in 45 minutes...
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>>Kurt S. S-5

Hell, I lost that just flying the 582...

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