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nt.groot(at)quicknet.nl
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:00 am Post subject: landinglight.

Hi  

I want to fix a landing light in the (nose)wheel faring.  

Does anyone know a type of landing light with a good light, a good shock resistant and how to get it  

Thanks in advance  

Nico Groot  PH-AMD  

Nt.groot(at)quicknet.nl  

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william(at)wrmills.plus.c
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:39 am Post subject: landinglight.

Nico,

 I use a domestic 12 volt 50 watt Halogen lamp  mounted in my monowheel fairing, which is light (in weight) and is very visible  on approach, but does not give a narrow beam for landing at night.   Available in most DIY stores.

 Regards,

 William

  

  

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jeff(at)rmmm.net
Guest

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:00 am Post subject: landinglight.

Hi Nico

Good luck getting a small enough light to stand up to the pounding of 

the nose wheel. I used the new gas light and made a flange then bonded 

it on and filled it out so the light is right above the air opening. 

Its tight but work grest. Here is a picture if it comes through.

Regards,

Jeff

A258 33.5 hrs of flying off the 40. All bugs seem to be gone;)





On Sep 3, 2006, at 4:57 AM, N.T. Groot wrote:



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		   Hi



 I want to fix a landing light in the (nose)wheel faring.



 Does anyone know a type of landing light with a good light, a good 

 shock resistant and how to get it



 Thanks in advance



 Nico Groot  PH-AMD



 Nt.groot(at)quicknet.nl

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jimpuglise(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:00 am Post subject: landinglight.

Jeff-



Who is the Manufacturer of the light and do you have any drawings?  It looks like just what I should be doing.



Jim Puglise - A-283



 -------------- Original message ----------------------

From: JEFF ROBERTS <jeff(at)rmmm.net>

 	  Quote: 	
		   Hi Nico

 Good luck getting a small enough light to stand up to the pounding of 

 the nose wheel. I used the new gas light and made a flange then bonded 

 it on and filled it out so the light is right above the air opening. 

 Its tight but work grest. Here is a picture if it comes through.

 Regards,

 Jeff

 A258 33.5 hrs of flying off the 40. All bugs seem to be gone;)

jeff(at)rmmm.net
Guest

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:58 pm Post subject: landinglight.

Jim,

The light was purchased from Wicks Aircraft supply. The item number is 

HIDL14. It has a ballast that I mounted on the side of the lower cowl. 

It is a gas light so you will never burn it out and it only uses 2.5 

amps. I just used it this evening at dusk and it really lights up the 

runway. Of course the price lights up the wallet quite well but I 

thought it was worth to keep from needing another alternator.

As far as drawings go... I'm sorry I cannot help you. All I did was cut 

into the cowl to where the top of the light fit then continued to cut 

until the whole light fit without touching the engine and without 

coming out close to the prop. When I had it where I wanted it, I got 

the clay out and started forming the flange you see. Put tape & release 

agent on then laid up 4 ply's of bid over it. After curing I removed 

the flange trimmed it up and used the green stuff to bond it back on 

the lower cowl. After filling and sanding a few times it was one with 

the cowl. I then made the horse shoe piece you see around the bottom of 

the light to hold the bulb in place using the same process.  Then I 

laid in some 2 inch bid tapes, 4 ply's thick, behind the bulb to screw 

it in to and hold it from the back. Which allowed adjustment of the 

hight of the light. Sorry but with such a limit on my time I didn't do 

much documentation or any drawings.

Just get the bulb and get out the clay and the rest will come to you. I 

hope this helps.

Regards,

Jeff

A258 Gold Rush.

and On Sep 3, 2006, at 1:59 PM, jimpuglise(at)comcast.net wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Jeff-

 Who is the Manufacturer of the light and do you have any drawings?  It 

 looks like just what I should be doing.

 Jim Puglise - A-283

  -------------- Original message ----------------------

 From: JEFF ROBERTS <jeff(at)rmmm.net>

> Hi Nico

> Good luck getting a small enough light to stand up to the pounding of

> the nose wheel. I used the new gas light and made a flange then bonded

> it on and filled it out so the light is right above the air opening.

> Its tight but work grest. Here is a picture if it comes through.

> Regards,

> Jeff

> A258 33.5 hrs of flying off the 40. All bugs seem to be gone;)

>

 From: JEFF ROBERTS <jeff(at)rmmm.net>

 Date: September 3, 2006 11:06:31 AM CDT

 To: europa-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: landinglight.

 Hi Nico

 Good luck getting a small enough light to stand up to the pounding of 

 the nose wheel. I used the new gas light and made a flange then bonded 

 it on and filled it out so the light is right above the air opening. 

 Its tight but work grest. Here is a picture if it comes through.

 Regards,

 Jeff

 A258 33.5 hrs of flying off the 40. All bugs seem to be gone;)

 <Front & Landing LT..JPG>

 On Sep 3, 2006, at 4:57 AM, N.T. Groot wrote:

> Hi

>

> I want to fix a landing light in the (nose)wheel faring.

>

> Does anyone know a type of landing light with a good light, a good 

> shock resistant and how to get it

>

> Thanks in advance

>

> Nico Groot  PH-AMD

>

> Nt.groot(at)quicknet.nl

>

> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List

>

> http://forums.matronics.com

>

> http://wiki.matronics.com

>

raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
Guest

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:48 am Post subject: landinglight.

Nico

  

 I have Hella Xenon-lights,

 both landing and taxilights.

  

 They are extremely powerfull,

 long-life enough, vibration

 resistant and take only 3A.

 Also it´s size is reasonable,

 the lenght is about 100 mm

 and diameter about 50 mm

 (you can purchase round or

 square model if you like).

 Of course they heavier than

 those led-toys but less than

 man can guess.

  

 I have also Xenon-lights in my

 cars and I have to note

 there is now life w/o  Xenon

 any more. They are like sun

 itself. I have three years

 experience of them  (in

 car use).

  

 Price of the one pair is about

 600 - 1000 euros depending

 where you buy.

  

 Regards, Raimo

 =============

Raimo M W Toivio

  

 OH-XRT Europa XS Mono #417, last night stall probe  installation, it was fun!

OH-CVK C172 Skyhawk, 55 hrs this year so  far

OH-BLL Beechcraft C45 w radial engines, grounded all the  time

  

 37500  Lempaala

Finland

tel + 358 3 3753  777

fax + 358 3 3753 100

gsm + 358 40 590 1450

  

 raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi (raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi)

www.rwm.fi



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rparigor(at)suffolk.lib.n
Guest

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:34 am Post subject: landinglight.

Hello Raimo



"I have Hella Xenon-lights, both landing and taxilights.

They are extremely powerfull, long-life enough, vibration resistant and

take only 3A.

Also it´s size is reasonable,the lenght is about 100 mm and diameter about

50 mm you can purchase round or square model if you like).

Of course they heavier than those led-toys but less than man can guess."



Where did you install them in your Europa?

Have a picture?

Any noise problems?



Thx.

Ron Parigoris

nt.groot(at)quicknet.nl
Guest

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:08 am Post subject: landinglight.

Jeff thanks for your answer with a nice picture.  

What is the type of this new gas light.  

With regards, Nico Groot   PH-AMD  

   

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----

 Van: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] Namens JEFF ROBERTS

 Verzonden: zondag 3 september 2006 17:58

 Aan: europa-list(at)matronics.com

 Onderwerp: Re: Europa-List: landinglight.  

   

Hi Nico

 Good luck getting a small enough light to stand up to the pounding of the nose wheel. I used the new gas light and made a flange then bonded it on and filled it out so the light is right above the air opening. Its tight but work grest. Here is a picture if it comes through. 

 Regards,

 Jeff

 A258 33.5 hrs of flying off the 40. All bugs seem to be gone;)  

       [quote][b]

raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
Guest

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:46 pm Post subject: landinglight.

Hi Ron



Sorry for delay - I was a week in

an archipelago having a camp school

with 23 about 11 years old kids,

among them my daughter Arla...



Landing light: it is installed through

light alloy air duct below prop. It

is looking up (7 degrees!) when on 

the ground (monowheel!) but about 

levelled when flying some day. High

voltage ballast has been installed on the

firewall front of the pilot´s legs. By the

way I fixed that Xenon by extraordinary

way. No bolts and nuts at all - only by 

Sikaflex 221 adhesive sealant system 

(I hardly can wait when my supervisor 

will see it!). The distance to the silencer

is about 30 mm and I am little worried.

Maybe I have to put some heat barrier

between them.



Taxi light: it is installed on the co-pilot

side fire wall (yes - inside the cowlings!).

It is lurking through that extra Naca inlet

which locates stbd side, lower cowling

(I have no turbo so I hope it is extra for me!).

The ballast is fixed on the side stiffener of the

cooling air duct. When on the taxi position,

the hottest spot of that light beam is about

15 metres front of the plane.



I was there playing games with them last night

and really they were like sun itself - two of them.



I estimate those 35 W Xenons are equal like 500 W

halogen lights in my work shop. The light beam

reaches more than 100 m /300 feets. Still I can

keep my hand on the glass of the Xenon w/o burn,

it is almost cool.



Noise problem? I suppose you are talking about

radio problems or what? Honestly I do not know

yet, my radios has been tested before Xenons.

When connecting on the Xenons man can hear

quite a sexy sound for a while but not very long,

unfortunately.



I took some pics and let you know the link soon,

hope tomorrow.



My highly recommendation...



Regards, Raimo

===========

Raimo M W Toivio



OH-XRT Europa XS Mono #417 

OH-CVK C172 Skyhawk

OH-BLL Beechcraft C45 w radial engines (grounded)



37500  Lempaala

Finland

tel + 358 3 3753 777

fax + 358 3 3753 100

gsm + 358 40 590 1450



raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi

www.rwm.fi



---

rparigor(at)suffolk.lib.n
Guest

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject: landinglight.

Hello Raimo



"Landing light / Taxi light"



Thx. for the info!



Do not archive



Ron Parigoris

raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
Guest

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:31 pm Post subject: landinglight.

Hi Ron



Sorry for delay - I was a week in

an archipelago having a camp school

with 23 about 11 years old kids,

among them my daughter Arla...



Landing light: it is installed through

light alloy air duct below prop. It

is looking up (7 degrees!) when on 

the ground (monowheel!) but about 

levelled when flying some day. High

voltage ballast has been installed on the

firewall front of the pilot´s legs. By the

way I fixed that Xenon by extraordinary

way. No bolts and nuts at all - only by 

Sikaflex 221 adhesive sealant system 

(I hardly can wait when my supervisor 

will see it!). The distance to the silencer

is about 30 mm and I am little worried.

Maybe I have to put some heat barrier

between them.



Taxi light: it is installed on the co-pilot

side fire wall (yes - inside the cowlings!).

It is lurking through that extra Naca inlet

which locates stbd side, lower cowling

(I have no turbo so I hope it is extra for me!).

The ballast is fixed on the side stiffener of the

cooling air duct. When on the taxi position,

the hottest spot of that light beam is about

15 metres front of the plane.



I was there playing games with them last night

and really they were like sun itself - two of them.



I estimate those 35 W Xenons are equal like 500 W

halogen lights in my work shop. The light beam

reaches more than 100 m /300 feets. Still I can

keep my hand on the glass of the Xenon w/o burn,

it is almost cool.



Noise problem? I suppose you are talking about

radio problems or what? Honestly I do not know

yet, my radios has been tested before Xenons.

When connecting on the Xenons man can hear

quite a sexy sound for a while but not very long,

unfortunately.



I took some pics and let you know the link soon,

hope tomorrow.



My highly recommendation...



Regards, Raimo

===========

Raimo M W Toivio



OH-XRT Europa XS Mono #417 

OH-CVK C172 Skyhawk

OH-BLL Beechcraft C45 w radial engines (grounded)



37500  Lempaala

Finland

tel + 358 3 3753 777

fax + 358 3 3753 100

gsm + 358 40 590 1450



raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi

www.rwm.fi



---

fklein(at)orcasonline.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:30 am Post subject: landinglight.

For those of you with my polycarbonate wingtip lighting covers,



I've just spoken w/ Bill VonDane (at) www.creativair.com and he will have 

a Xenon landing/taxi light option available in a couple of weeks as a 

substitute for the Halogen bulbs in his  units which allow a 

combination of LED position lights, landing/taxi lights, and low 

profile strobes, all of which will fit within the wingtip.



Fred

A194

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