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1. 02:47 AM - Re: 1st post (pat ladd)
2. 05:18 AM - Re: Full stall landings (Thom Riddle)
3. 07:39 AM - Re: Full stall landings (Richard Girard)
4. 07:42 AM - Re: 1st post (Richard Girard)
5. 07:57 AM - Re: Full stall landings (John Hauck)
6. 11:01 AM - New Member Panel Question (Jeff Nelson)
7. 12:04 PM - Re: New Member Panel Question (Larry Cottrell)
8. 12:38 PM - Re: New Member Panel Question (possums)
9. 02:21 PM - Re: New Member Panel Question (David Lehman)
10. 02:33 PM - Re: 1st post ( e.bayliss)
11. 02:42 PM - Re: New Member Panel Question (planecrazzzy)
12. 02:55 PM - Re: New Member Panel Question (Ralph Hoover)
13. 03:04 PM - Re: New Member Panel Question (Ralph Hoover)
14. 03:21 PM - Re: 1st post (Ralph Hoover)
15. 03:39 PM - FS II Panel (Chris Mallory)
16. 04:40 PM - Re: New Member Panel Question (Larry Bourne)
17. 04:54 PM - Re: New Member Panel Question (jerb)
18. 05:03 PM - Re: New Member Panel Question (robert bean)
19. 05:41 PM - Re: Kolb Homecoming (Eugene Zimmerman)
20. 05:49 PM - Re: New Member Panel Question (Mike Schnabel)
21. 05:59 PM - Re: Re: New Member Panel Question (Bob Noyer)
22. 06:05 PM - Re: Kolb Homecoming (Mike Schnabel)
23. 06:09 PM - Re: New Member Panel Question (ElleryWeld(at)aol.com (ElleryWeld(at)aol.com))
24. 06:37 PM - Re: Kolbs on tour, photos available (WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com (WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com))
25. 06:47 PM - Re: New Member Panel Question (Bill Vincent)
26. 06:56 PM - Re: Kolb Homecoming (Denny Rowe)
27. 07:12 PM - Re: New Member Panel Question (WillUribe(at)aol.com (WillUribe(at)aol.com))
28. 07:22 PM - Re: New Member Panel Question (Charlie England)
29. 08:26 PM - Re: Full stall landings (robert bean)
30. 08:37 PM - Re: Full stall landings (vonne van hertum)
31. 08:42 PM - Re: Full stall landings ( ElleryWeld(at)aol.com (ElleryWeld(at)aol.com))
32. 09:06 PM - Re: Full stall landings (Larry Bourne)
33. 09:08 PM - Re: Full stall landings (Larry Cottrell)
34. 10:04 PM - Re: Full stall landings (robert bean)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 02:47:35 AM PST US
From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com (pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com)>
Subject: Re: 1st post
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 05:18:13 AM PST US
From: Thom Riddle < jtriddle(at)adelphia.net (jtriddle(at)adelphia.net)>
Subject: Re: Full stall landings
APilot(at)webtv.net (APilot(at)webtv.net),
There is nothing wrong with your Kolb. The three-point angle of attack
on a Kolb with standard gear legs. is well below the Critical(stall)
angle of attack, by design. Lengthen the main gear legs enough and you
can stall it in three-point.
Thom in Buffalo
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________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 07:39:07 AM PST US
From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com (jindoguy(at)gmail.com)>
Subject: Re: Full stall landings
Have you bought a hydraulic press, yet? If you haven't done that, or
borrowed one, you obviously haven't bent enough gear legs. Keep trying. Have
you bent the roll over hoop? Seriously, you've got to put your whole self
into the moment, fly it down right to stall, and use one notch of flaps to
really fine point on it. And then, WHAM. Your main gear looks like it was
designed by Roger Rabbit over in Toon Town.
I have 18" dia. nerf tires, full swivel tailwheel on a 4130 leg, sleeved,
no less, and I almost always fly at aft C.G. and I couldn't get a consistent
three point out of mine, either.
Then Travis talked good sense into me and I stopped trying. Now I'm finding
it's all about energy management, as the shuttle drivers put it. I can wheel
it on at 50 mph and roll her out or I can bleed off the speed as gently as
possible to get a landing at about 42 or so in a three point attitude. I
don't believe the wing is stalled at that point, but I no longer get that
annoying ground slam when it does and that's all I really care about.
Rick
On 9/19/06, Thom Riddle <jtriddle(at)adelphia.net (jtriddle(at)adelphia.net)> wrote:
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APilot(at)webtv.net (APilot(at)webtv.net),
There is nothing wrong with your Kolb. The three-point angle of attack
on a Kolb with standard gear legs. is well below the Critical(stall)
angle of attack, by design. Lengthen the main gear legs enough and you
can stall it in three-point.
Thom in Buffalo
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Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 07:42:22 AM PST US
From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com (jindoguy(at)gmail.com)>
Subject: Re: 1st post
Is the message here that brevity is the soul of wit?
On 9/19/06, pat ladd <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com (pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com)> wrote:
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Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
Time: 07:57:38 AM PST US
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com (jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com)>
Subject: Re: Full stall landings
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" < jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com (jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com)>
Seriously, you've got to put your whole self
| into the moment, fly it down right to stall, and use one notch of
flaps to
| really fine point on it. And then, WHAM.
| Rick Girard
Rick:
I usually land with full flaps, on the mkIII. That puts the aircraft
into an attitude that is not quite as nose high as half flaps or no
flaps at all.
My mkIII sits somewhat higher in the nose, but the 8" Maule Tundra
Tail Wheel canceled some of that out, unfortunately.
Should get a chance to practice landings in the Factory FSII this
week. We'll see if I can still land a Kolb that is in the normal
landing gear configuration.
Plan to get out of hauck's holler in the morning and sleep on Labhart
Field tomorrow night.
See you all there,
john h
mkIII
________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________
Time: 11:01:53 AM PST US
From: "Jeff Nelson" <jenelson1(at)hotmail.com (jenelson1(at)hotmail.com)>
Subject: New Member Panel Question
Hello All
My name is Jeff Nelson and I have recently acquired a Kolb Firestar KXP.
It did not take me long to realize I needed to do some updates and one
was the panel. It was not in good shape so I am going to rebuild it.
My question is this. What do you all have in your panels and what
configuration is it? Are there any pictures that are available? right
now I have an altimeter 3 1/8", Airspeed 3 1/8", CHT 2", EGT 2", Tach
2", and fuel quantity 2" I can configure these so I can also get my
handheld radio mounted on the panel. Are there any other units that
might combine some of these gauges? I hope to get this done so I can
fly it yet this fall but I have a few other things that need attention
as well. I will also be licensing this in LSA this year.
Thank for your time
Jeff Nelson
________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________
Time: 12:04:28 PM PST US
From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell(at)fmtcblue.com (lcottrell(at)fmtcblue.com)>
Subject: Re: New Member Panel Question
If you can get all that in a KXP panel, my hats off to you. I am faced
with the same thing having destroyed my old pod. The new one from TNK
seems to be a bit different and more streamlined. (read smaller) I was
faced with buying two new gages so that I could have two EGT and CHT
measurements so I opted to get a EIS from Grand Rapids Tech. Then all
you need is fuel gages, altimeter, air speed and compass. They do have a
unit that has an altimeter built in. What convinced me was the fact that
they have a remote feature that you can remotely wire the functions for
your stick? or any where else you want it. I just went out and took a
picture, since that is what I have been working on, and I notice that it
is set in the panel upside down. I have been trying to tame the wiring
mess that is involved in this and just secured the connectors and shoved
it into the panel. The harness has 12 feet of wires so there is plenty
to get to anywhere you want. I dealt direct with the factory, ( the gal
that answers the phone is sharp and will save you a lot of trouble as
well as money) and was much happier and confident that I would be
getting what I needed.
Larry, Oregon
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