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hagargs(at)earthlink.net
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:38 pm Post subject: Flying is good!

Steve Hagar

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gcrowder2

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 136
Location: Golden, Colorado USA

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:52 am Post subject: Flying is good!

Hey Steve thats fantastic!

  On my mono, 18 lbs tire pressure turns it into a C172 for landing.  

Anything more and it

turns into a squirrely ass POS!  I really think it has a lot to do with 

outrigger height off the

ground.  If you always get the tailwheel down first, then the wing is done 

flying and the

outriggers will be closer to the ground as the wing is no longer flexing up, 

allowing less

shenanigans on the roll out.   My outriggers just barely touch the ground 

sitting on the tarmac with no load.   I find too that with a passenger, the 

outriggers are even lower and landings are a

yawner.

                                              Glenn



[quote]From: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs(at)earthlink.net>

Reply-To: europa-list(at)matronics.com

To: "europa-list" <europa-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: FW: Flying is good!

Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:40:04 -0700



Steve Hagar

hagargs(at)earthlink.net

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n100rh(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:01 am Post subject: Flying is good!

Steve,

Dave Anderson,( xs914 motorglider Minden, NV), he was quick to point out 

tire pressure could be a problem. He said, high pressures would 

contribute to wild handling on landings and that lower tire pressures 

greatly improved the situation. I will fwd your note on to him, he no 

longer follows the list, so he can  get back to you with his findings.



Ralph

Steve Hagar wrote:

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 Steve Hagar

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grahamsingleton(at)btinte
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:31 am Post subject: Flying is good!

Glenn

lower tire pressure means a bigger slip angle on the ground and that 

will make the initial grab in yaw less agressive also. I think you'r 

right about the outriggers, less wobble when they are both firmly on the 

ground.

Graham



GLENN CROWDER wrote:



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 <gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com>



 Hey Steve thats fantastic!

  On my mono, 18 lbs tire pressure turns it into a C172 for landing.  

 Anything more and it

 turns into a squirrely ass POS!  I really think it has a lot to do 

 with outrigger height off the

 ground.  If you always get the tailwheel down first, then the wing is 

 done flying and the

 outriggers will be closer to the ground as the wing is no longer 

 flexing up, allowing less

 shenanigans on the roll out.   My outriggers just barely touch the 

 ground sitting on the tarmac with no load.   I find too that with a 

 passenger, the outriggers are even lower and landings are a

 yawner.

                                              Glenn

scrimm

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 81
Location: Gilbert, SC SC99

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:06 pm Post subject: Flying is good!

So what would be the minimum air pressure?  Max of 18 and a minimum of ???



Steve

N42AH 


--> <grahamsingleton(at)btinternet.com>



Glenn

lower tire pressure means a bigger slip angle on the ground and that will

make the initial grab in yaw less agressive also. I think you'r right about

the outriggers, less wobble when they are both firmly on the ground.

Graham



GLENN CROWDER wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 <gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com>



 Hey Steve thats fantastic!

  On my mono, 18 lbs tire pressure turns it into a C172 for landing.  

 Anything more and it

 turns into a squirrely ass POS!  I really think it has a lot to do 

 with outrigger height off the ground.  If you always get the tailwheel 

 down first, then the wing is done flying and the outriggers will be 

 closer to the ground as the wing is no longer flexing up, allowing 

 less

 shenanigans on the roll out.   My outriggers just barely touch the 

 ground sitting on the tarmac with no load.   I find too that with a 

 passenger, the outriggers are even lower and landings are a yawner.

                                              Glenn

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Steve Crimm
N42AH

grahamsingleton(at)btinte
Guest

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:21 pm Post subject: Flying is good!

17 psi? :-[

Graham



Steve Crimm wrote:



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So what would be the minimum air pressure?  Max of 18 and a minimum of ???



Steve

N42AH

SPurpura(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:55 pm Post subject: Flying is good!

I tried 18 psi and found it too mushy for me. I inflate to 24psi,have 360hrs on the same tire & original tube, no problem yet. Sam N77EU  [quote][b]

96victor(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:32 pm Post subject: Flying is good!

So maybe the problem is not the air pressure but as Glen suggest it is the outriggers distance from the ground?  Suspicious!

  

 Tom



 

 On 9/26/06, SPurpura(at)aol.com (SPurpura(at)aol.com) <SPurpura(at)aol.com (SPurpura(at)aol.com)> wrote: [quote] I tried 18 psi and found it too mushy for me. I inflate to 24psi,have 360hrs on the same tire & original tube, no problem yet. Sam N77EU   	  Quote: 	
		  

	


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nwcmc(at)tiscali.co.uk
Guest

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:13 pm Post subject: Flying is good!

Also watch for brake calliper rubbing against tyre sidewall especially

during turns. If this happens it will leave a mark on the side of the

tyre.



Nigel Charles



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ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:34 pm Post subject: Flying is good!

Likewise Sam, 18psi is too little and props too close to ground. I have  mine at 26 psi. No control problems.

 Cheers,

 Tim

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