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				 Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:25 am    Post subject: Firefly add ons... | 
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				Thought I would send some  pics , showing access to the fuel tank...also 
 one of the storage box just to the rear....naturally..one must be 
 careful adding too much wt to this compartment...Tie downs, oil and 
 maybe an empty fuel tank?   The storage compartment needs a cover to 
 keep things contained in rough weather...Herb
 
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				 Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:47 am    Post subject: Firefly add ons... | 
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				Very neat. We are somewhat restricted (at least in theory) in adding weight 
 as the controlling factor which decides if it is a microlight or not is the 
 MAUW. My Xtra was fairly heavy as the guy who built it was more versed in 
 `normal` aircraft than in microlights. Consequently when he saw what he 
 considered a `weak` point or a part a bit underdesigned he merrily put in an 
 extra stiffening piece or a brace. Unfortunately the weight it all added up 
 and only left a little `wriggle room`. It was never a problem for me but 
 someone who wanted to load their machine like the Hauk does on his x 
 countries would find themselves illegal. Of course that doesn`t mean that 
 everyone always stays inside the limits.  Pat.
 
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				 Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:28 am    Post subject: Firefly add ons... | 
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				My MkIIi classic came in at 490 lbs.. Rotax 532 engine and three blade 
 IVO prop.   No frills..
 
    Pleased that the Firefly is just a bit over wt...Planning to do 
 another Wt and Bal Today...266 seems quite lite , given the full 
 enclosure ?   Herb
 
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  Very neat. We are somewhat restricted (at least in theory) in adding 
  weight as the controlling factor which decides if it is a microlight 
  or not is the MAUW. My Xtra was fairly heavy as the guy who built it 
  was more versed in `normal` aircraft than in microlights. Consequently 
  when he saw what he considered a `weak` point or a part a bit 
  underdesigned he merrily put in an extra stiffening piece or a brace. 
  Unfortunately the weight it all added up and only left a little 
  `wriggle room`. It was never a problem for me but someone who wanted 
  to load their machine like the Hauk does on his x countries would find 
  themselves illegal. Of course that doesn`t mean that everyone always 
  stays inside the limits. Pat.
 
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:40 am    Post subject: Firefly add ons... | 
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				Hi. 2 seat has to come in below 992lbs. Single seat below 661lbs. This 
 includes fuel and pilot who is assumed to be 200lbs. The plane must stall at 
 less than 35knots at MAUW. and there is a wing loading limit. This is to 
 stop someone building a `lead sled` which is beyond the control of a 
 `normal` pilot. Nevertheless we have models cruising around 100 mph and 
 topping out at 120. No retractable u/c allowed here although they do on the 
 Continent. i think to get mine through we worked out a calculation of the 
 wing loading by including the wing strut area in the wing area. Where theres 
 a will..  Pat
 
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