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jblake207(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:27 am Post subject: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (re: Thread Hi-Jacking

Great post Steve!  



  

 JB

 



   From: "727gs" <727gs(at)att.net>

To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 9:08:20 PM

Subject: Yak-List: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (re: Thread Hi-Jacking

 



--> Yak-List message posted by: "727gs" <727gs(at)att.net>

 



Folks,

 



I gotta say, I'm kinda with Curt on this one. Some of you folks on this list can come off as pretty pompous. When I first got on the list when trying to get my CJ flying, I didn't get a lot of help, mostly preaching except for one or two pretty helpful guys who were extremely generous with their time off list. Then, when I foolishly asked about putting the gear handle in the neutral position, the fun really started. Statements like "Ludicrous" and "You didn't know how the system works" came flying back at me. Pretty strong language for a self-identified newby asking for help as politely as I could think how. When I said that some of the airplanes I fly at work had a neutral position, someone thought it appropriate to point out that new Boeings don't any more. Kind of pissy, I thought, but I needed the help.

 



If you guys want this group to grow, my suggestion would be to give some thought to how your "advice" sounds from the other side. I can certainly see why Curt was getting frustrated and why he vented his displeasure. Instead of a six paragraph rambling response invoking immigration, Mr. Dralle, the history of the archives, and Rome, perhaps a 'Sorry, didn't mean it that way" would have worked better. That was the most convoluted near-apology I have ever read.

 



I've watched this go on in almost every forum, aircraft or otherwise, I've been involved with and it is counter-productive. It always eventually dwindles down to four or five guys spouting off their political views.

 



If he's was the only one talking like this, you could write that off as one disgruntled person. He isn't. Every time someone gets pissed and leaves, everyone loses.

 



"Straighten Curt out"? Really?

 



BTW, I ran into a couple of former Chinese military pilots last time I was at Langley. I asked them about the gear handle. They said that SOP was to use the neutral position after the gear came up. Couldn't tell me why, though.

 



Steve Jones

CJ-6a near Chicago

 



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mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:19 am Post subject: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (re: Thread Hi-Jacking

Regardless of who's feelings got hurt, regardless of those that do not understand the term "with all due respect", regardless of those that don't understand "it was a joke", regardless of those that are afraid to ask questions, regardless of those who feel that their questions were not answered with the proper "tone of voice".....  all that aside ..... 



I think the most important question is this:   Of everyone here that asks and answers questions, whether they be brand new, or old timers .... how many contribute cash money to Matt Dralle every year so this list (and a ton of others) can be maintained to the benefit of all concerned?  



If you have ... GREAT!   Because we *ALL* should.   To those that have not contributed one red cent and have the gonads to come on this list and complain about ANYTHING AT ALL ..... well, good luck with that and I can guess who you're voting for.   And by the way, this is called "Opening Pandora's Box".  



Big smile... Big smile.

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mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:36 am Post subject: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (re: Thread Hi-Jacking

I think I am offended.   Let me think about it and I'll get back to you.



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Viperdoc

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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:28 am Post subject: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (re: Thread Hi-Jacking

Have you decided yet? Offended or not? Relax, sit back, take a breath, and pop a cap on a cool MMO. Let the aromatic red fluid flow through your crevasses. Pretty soon those chunks of carbon will be falling and fouling your filters for elimination from your system with your next change. There feel better?

Doc



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[quote] On Jul 6, 2016, at 2:35 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD <mark.bitterlich(at)navy.mil> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 I think I am offended.   Let me think about it and I'll get back to you.

 

 

 

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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:33 am Post subject: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (re: Thread Hi-Jacking

Hopefully while wearing a flight suit!!

  

  In a message dated 7/8/2016 10:29:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  f16viperdoc(at)me.com writes:

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Have    you decided yet? Offended or not? Relax, sit back, take a breath, and pop a    cap on a cool MMO. Let the aromatic red fluid flow through your crevasses.    Pretty soon those chunks of carbon will be falling and fouling your filters    for elimination from your system with your next change. There feel    better?

Doc



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		   On Jul 6, 2016, at 2:35    PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD <mark.bitterlich(at)navy.mil>    wrote:

 

 --> Yak-List message posted by: "Bitterlich, Mark G    CIV NAVAIR, WD" <mark.bitterlich(at)navy.mil>

 

 

    

 I think I am offended.   Let me think about it and I'll get    back to you.

 

 

 

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 From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com    [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest    Martinez

 Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 3:25 PM

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 Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (re:    Thread Hi-Jacking

 

 The horse lives!

 

 On Wed,    Jul 6, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD    <mark.bitterlich(at)navy.mil> wrote:

 

 

           --> Yak-List message posted by: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV    NAVAIR, WD" <mark.bitterlich(at)navy.mil>

 

           Regardless of who's feelings got hurt, regardless of those that    do not understand the term "with all due respect", regardless of those that    don't understand "it was a joke", regardless of those that are afraid to ask    questions, regardless of those who feel that their questions were not answered    with the proper "tone of voice".....  all that aside .....

    

        I think the most important question is    this:   Of everyone here that asks and answers questions, whether    they be brand new, or old timers .... how many contribute cash money to Matt    Dralle every year so this list (and a ton of others) can be maintained to the    benefit of all concerned?

 

        If you    have ... GREAT!   Because we *ALL* should.   To those that    have not contributed one red cent and have the gonads to come on this list and    complain about ANYTHING AT ALL ..... well, good luck with that and I can guess    who you're voting for.   And by the way, this is called "Opening    Pandora's Box".

 

        Big smile... Big    smile.

 

 

 

 

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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:14 pm Post subject: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (re: Thread Hi-Jacking

Not to start any in-breeding or fighting, but what is the reason for the Non-DoD Source blah blah?

[quote]On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:33, KingCJ6(at)aol.com (KingCJ6(at)aol.com) wrote:

Hopefully while wearing a flight suit!!

 

In a message dated 7/8/2016 10:29:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, f16viperdoc(at)me.com (f16viperdoc(at)me.com) writes:

[quote]--> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc(at)me.com (f16viperdoc(at)me.com)>Have you decided yet? Offended or not? Relax, sit back, take a breath, and pop a cap on a cool MMO. Let the aromatic red fluid flow through your crevasses. Pretty soon those chunks of carbon will be falling and fouling your filters for elimination from your system with your next change. There feel better?DocSent from my iPad> On Jul 6, 2016, at 2:35 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD <mark.bitterlich(at)navy.mil (mark.bitterlich(at)navy.mil)> wrote:> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD" <mark.bitterlich(at)navy.mil (mark.bitterlich(at)navy.mil)>> > > > I think I am offended.   Let me think about it and I'll get back to you.> > > > --

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