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 Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:27 pm Post subject: Kolb Firestar 1... |
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I am looking at a 5 rib Firestar 1... Is that a KXP? And what is a
KXP? When were they built?
And the engine ,447 , shows an ign box under the carb, but the coil
is mounted in the location where the dual coils would be mounted for a
points ign engine..Single coil, waste spark ...
Any info would be appreciated...Herb
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:32 pm Post subject: Kolb Firestar 1... |
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It is my understanding that the KXP came after the 5 rib. I believe it was the first 7 rib firestar.Larry
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I am looking at a 5 rib Firestar 1... Is that a KXP? And what is a KXP? When were they built?
And the engine ,447 , shows an ign box under the carb, but the coil is mounted in the location where the dual coils would be mounted for a points ign engine..Single coil, waste spark ...
Any info would be appreciated...Herb
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:24 pm Post subject: Kolb Firestar 1... |
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If I read it right...the one I am looking at is a KX...per 1990 maybe? Herb
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| Quote: | It is my understanding that the KXP came after the 5 rib. I believe it was the first 7 rib firestar. Larry
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com (Herbgh(at)nctc.com)> wrote:
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I am looking at a 5 rib Firestar 1... Is that a KXP? And what is a KXP? When were they built?
And the engine ,447 , shows an ign box under the carb, but the coil is mounted in the location where the dual coils would be mounted for a points ign engine..Single coil, waste spark ...
Any info would be appreciated...Herb
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:31 pm Post subject: Kolb Firestar 1... |
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pre 1990.... Herb
On 10/25/2016 08:23 PM, Herb wrote:
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If I read it right...the one I am looking at is a KX...per 1990 maybe? Herb
On 10/25/2016 06:32 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
| Quote: | It is my understanding that the KXP came after the 5 rib. I believe it was the first 7 rib firestar. Larry
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com (Herbgh(at)nctc.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com (Herbgh(at)nctc.com)>
I am looking at a 5 rib Firestar 1... Is that a KXP? And what is a KXP? When were they built?
And the engine ,447 , shows an ign box under the carb, but the coil is mounted in the location where the dual coils would be mounted for a points ign engine..Single coil, waste spark ...
Any info would be appreciated...Herb
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Herb Larry is right the KXP had & rib wings and a stronger drag strut to make the Firestar able to use a 503 Rotax. Chris
Chris Davis
KXP 503 492 hrs
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Disabled from crash building Firefly
On Tuesday, October 25, 2016 9:36 PM, Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com> wrote:
pre 1990.... Herb
On 10/25/2016 08:23 PM, Herb wrote:
If I read it right...the one I am looking at is a KX...per 1990 maybe? Herb
On 10/25/2016 06:32 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
| Quote: | It is my understanding that the KXP came after the 5 rib. I believe it was the first 7 rib firestar. Larry
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com (Herbgh(at)nctc.com)> wrote: | Quote: | | --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com (Herbgh(at)nctc.com)> I am looking at a 5 rib Firestar 1... Is that a KXP? And what is a KXP? When were they built? And the engine ,447 , shows an ign box under the carb, but the coil is mounted in the location where the dual coils would be mounted for a points ign engine..Single coil, waste spark ... Any info would be appreciated...Herb ==== ============================== == -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navig ator?Kolb-List ==== ============================== == FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com ==== ============================== == WIKI - errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com ==== ============================== == b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contr ibution ==== ============================== == |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:18 am Post subject: Kolb Firestar 1... |
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This one has an odd 447..odd in that I have never seen one with a dual ign coil..and with an ign box below the carbs.. 5 rib wing...so a KX . Likely something from a motorcycle...?
I read the history blurb on the Kolb site but could not get a good feel as to the age of a Firestar with the 5 rib wing..Herb
On 10/26/2016 09:21 AM, chris davis wrote:
| Quote: | Herb Larry is right the KXP had & rib wings and a stronger drag strut to make the Firestar able to use a 503 Rotax. Chris
Chris Davis
KXP 503 492 hrs
Glider Pilot
Disabled from crash building Firefly
On Tuesday, October 25, 2016 9:36 PM, Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com> (Herbgh(at)nctc.com) wrote:
pre 1990.... Herb
On 10/25/2016 08:23 PM, Herb wrote:
If I read it right...the one I am looking at is a KX...per 1990 maybe? Herb
On 10/25/2016 06:32 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
| Quote: | It is my understanding that the KXP came after the 5 rib. I believe it was the first 7 rib firestar. Larry
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com (Herbgh(at)nctc.com)> wrote: | Quote: | | --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com (Herbgh(at)nctc.com)> I am looking at a 5 rib Firestar 1... Is that a KXP? And what is a KXP? When were they built? And the engine ,447 , shows an ign box under the carb, but the coil is mounted in the location where the dual coils would be mounted for a points ign engine..Single coil, waste spark ... Any info would be appreciated...Herb ==== ============================== == -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navig ator?Kolb-List ==== ============================== == FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com ==== ============================== == WIKI - errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com ==== ============================== == b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contr ibution ==== ============================== == |
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"Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and what does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter...
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"Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies give way to tyranny."
Aristotle
"Daddy, tell me...why are you going to the pig farm for a reeducation and what does it mean "A basket of deplorables"? "Are you unreedemable"? And" who is Stalin and Mao Zedong"? Mark Twain's GGgranddaughter...
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: Kolb Firestar 1... |
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The snowmobile engines had a Ducati electronic ignition with a single two-lead coil and a 'black box' that could be mounted in various places. It's a good system. I believe it has an electronic advance built in that makes the engine idle smoother. I know mine idled a lot smoother when I switched it from points to this set up.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:15 am Post subject: Kolb Firestar 1... |
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Your description matches what I am seeing...but I am wondering if the
unit can be fired by points or inductive pick up? Herb
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The snowmobile engines had a Ducati electronic ignition ignition with a single two-lead coil and a 'black box' that could be mounted in various places. It's a good system. I believe it has an electronic advance built in that makes the engine idle smoother. I know mine idled a lot smoother when I switched it from points to this set up.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:48 pm Post subject: Re: Kolb Firestar 1... |
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The Ducati ignition system has a small inductive 'trigger' mounted behind the flywheel. There are no breaker points.
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