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I understand that USA requires anti collision strobe.
I am already flying and dont have conduits to the wing tips
I believe that I can place the strobe on the top of tail cant I?
What is the recommendation for a low consumption compliant system?
Many thanks Will
William Daniell
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 4:38 pm Post subject: Re: USA Compliant anti collision |
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ELECTRONIC POSITION / TAIL LIGHT / ANTICOLLISION LIGHT sold by Aircraft Spruce might work for you. Whelen are good, but they draw about 14 amps when you have the Nav lights and Strobe on. I had to put a 40 Amp on my Jabiru to handle the load for night flights.
Your engine only puts out 15 Amps, then when it gets warm it decreases.
Read this from EAA
Am I required to have anti-collision lights on my homebuilt?
No, if you are only going to using your aircraft for day, VFR flight. FAR 91.205 lists the instrument and equipment requirements for standard category aircraft. This FAR does not apply to Experimental-Amateur Built aircraft.
If you intend to use your aircraft for either night VFR or IFR flight, you will have to comply with the requirements of FAR 91.205 because the operating limitations you receive as a part of your airworthiness certificate will include the following language:
“After completion of phase I flight testing, unless appropriately equipped for night and/or instrument flight in accordance with § 91.205, this aircraft is to be operated under VFR, day only.”
Rick Stockton
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pete(at)lawless.info
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 11:56 pm Post subject: USA Compliant anti collision |
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We used to be able to buy these US strobes in the UK via an agent. Low
power requirements, 2 amps, and the ones on my aeroplane have been
working for 17 years. One on the fin and one under the fuselage. I
notice they now produce an LED version.
https://www.kestrobes.com/
Pete
G-RMAC Classic #109
On 09/05/18 01:38, AirEupora wrote:
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ELECTRONIC POSITION / TAIL LIGHT / ANTICOLLISION LIGHT sold by Aircraft Spruce might work for you. Whelen are good, but they draw about 14 amps when you have the Nav lights and Strobe on. I had to put a 40 Amp on my Jabiru to handle the load for night flights.
Your engine only puts out 15 Amps, then when it gets warm it decreases.
Read this from EAA
Am I required to have anti-collision lights on my homebuilt?
No, if you are only going to using your aircraft for day, VFR flight. FAR 91.205 lists the instrument and equipment requirements for standard category aircraft. This FAR does not apply to Experimental-Amateur Built aircraft.
If you intend to use your aircraft for either night VFR or IFR flight, you will have to comply with the requirements of FAR 91.205 because the operating limitations you receive as a part of your airworthiness certificate will include the following language:
“After completion of phase I flight testing, unless appropriately equipped for night and/or instrument flight in accordance with § 91.205, this aircraft is to be operated under VFR, day only.â€
Rick Stockton
N120EJ
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Roland
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 1:40 am Post subject: Re: USA Compliant anti collision |
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I have one of these LED strobes https://www.thiesen-electronics.com/en/products/annex2 mounted on top of the fuselage behind the cockpit and can recommend it. Notice, that they don't have a seperate control body - it's just the strobe to mount on the fuselage.
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wdaniell.longport(at)gmai
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 8:45 am Post subject: USA Compliant anti collision |
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PeteThanks. Apparwntly i dont need them for day vfr and converting to night vfr is simple. Im looking forward to living in the us.
On Wed, May 9, 2018, 02:58 Pete Lawless <pete(at)lawless.info (pete(at)lawless.info)> wrote:
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We used to be able to buy these US strobes in the UK via an agent. Low
power requirements, 2 amps, and the ones on my aeroplane have been
working for 17 years. One on the fin and one under the fuselage. I
notice they now produce an LED version.
https://www.kestrobes.com/
Pete
G-RMAC Classic #109
On 09/05/18 01:38, AirEupora wrote:
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> ELECTRONIC POSITION / TAIL LIGHT / ANTICOLLISION LIGHT sold by Aircraft Spruce might work for you. Whelen are good, but they draw about 14 amps when you have the Nav lights and Strobe on. I had to put a 40 Amp on my Jabiru to handle the load for night flights.
> Your engine only puts out 15 Amps, then when it gets warm it decreases.
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> Read this from EAA
> Am I required to have anti-collision lights on my homebuilt?
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> No, if you are only going to using your aircraft for day, VFR flight. FAR 91.205 lists the instrument and equipment requirements for standard category aircraft. This FAR does not apply to Experimental-Amateur Built aircraft.
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> If you intend to use your aircraft for either night VFR or IFR flight, you will have to comply with the requirements of FAR 91.205 because the operating limitations you receive as a part of your airworthiness certificate will include the following language:
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> “After completion of phase I flight testing, unless appropriately equipped for night and/or instrument flight in accordance with § 91.205, this aircraft is to be operated under VFR, day only.â€
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> Rick Stockton
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 4:59 pm Post subject: USA Compliant anti collision |
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Will,
Recently I was helping an EAA friend looking to night equip his Kitfox 4. Like you, he had no exterior lighting.
His solution was the Aveo Powerburst wingtip lights. He uses the Ridgid industries SRQ series for attaching to his gear legs. Note on Rigid and other LEDs: They must have cooling air or they will die. Rigid has an internal CB to prevent failure.
For just a tail light beacon, Aveo makes a very neat, LED, low drag model. I asked them last year at Sun n Fun for such an item and they came through. However they have changed it already and I only see it as a certified unit now. I have looked for the unit from last year and cannot find it. Reasonably priced red tail top light LED flashing unit. It was about $250. Cant find it any longer.
The tail top light will fit the Europa (much better than the Kitfox) and I have said, they have changed it again this year slightly and it is certified and called the Super Nova FS Titania (Kind of an overreaching name with an overreaching price).
Ive been happy with their Powerburst wing tip assemblies. No noise, low power, and work great. Reasonable price. I use the 4 wire #20 gauge wires to wire it in. No problem punching the holes for the wire. Heck, Ive drilled a Classic wing for lights, just go slow and take your time.
Bad news is the Aveo are a polycarbonate that is like auto headlights. Over time left outside, they tend to yellow a bit and get hazy. So to keep them bright and shiny, learn to buff them with #2 McGuires, or Flitz once a year if you leave your plane out of doors.
Best Regards,
Bud Yerly
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Subject: USA Compliant anti collision
I understand that USA requires anti collision strobe.
I am already flying and dont have conduits to the wing tips
I believe that I can place the strobe on the top of tail cant I?
What is the recommendation for a low consumption compliant system?
Many thanks Will
William Daniell
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 4:10 am Post subject: Re: USA Compliant anti collision |
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Will, I currently have this for sale on eBay:
https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Skyflash-SFD1-Single-Head-Strobe-System-Red-Beacon-Type-/202309789699
It can with my Europa, but I chose not to use it. Don't know if it fits the bill for you, but if so, I would ship it to the states at cost.
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 4:16 am Post subject: USA Compliant anti collision |
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Thanks bob,
However I am going to fly with the arcraft as it is and if necessary add lights in the future.
Will
William Daniell
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Will, I currently have this for sale on eBay:
https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Skyflash-SFD1-Single-Head-Strobe-System-Red-Beacon-Type-/202309789699
It can with my Europa, but I chose not to use it. Don't know if it fits the bill for you, but if so, I would ship it to the states at cost.
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XS TG || 912 ULS || G-NHRJ
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