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 Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:18 am Post subject: Tripp's Firestar and the list |
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Herb,
I'm subscribed to multiple Matronics lists. On some, I see my own posts as incoming mail from that list. On others, I never see my posts unless someone replies to them, or I look them up on the Matronics server. For some reason, I'm not seeing your posts at the moment until someone replies to them.
On moving a Kolb in the hangar: My Twinstar Mark Zero is light enough that I can pick up a main wheel by lifting at the strut/wing attach point. I bought 3 of the smallest Harbor Freight furniture dollies. Screwed a curved sheet metal 'cradle' across the long dimension of two of them for the mains, and a couple of 1x4s with a gap between for the tailwheel on the 3rd. Cheapest thing I could think of, to roll it around in the hangar, and the smallest/lightest, too.
Charlie
On 10/20/2018 10:51 AM, John Hauck wrote:
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I thought those good, adventurous times would last forever. We were so lucky to be able to share the experience of the Kolb Homecomings, the years Homer Kolb came down, the new Kolbers I got to meet that remain friends to this day. It was a small, special world for people that love these little Kolb airplanes.
The paint is Polytone.
john h
mklIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Pfatchantz
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 10:32 AM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Tripp's Firestar and the list
John and all.
It appears that I do not get the a mailing when I reply...only if someone else replies..May need to visit the preference page on Matronics ,,if one exists..
James on the list? I wanted to ask if the paint is polytone ? Log says so..but the finish is too shiny it seems... I can test it under the belly somewhere with acetone... I need to find some of those round stickers to patch a couple of small holes...The ones that say "ouch" or something as clever..
As I may have said or at least meant to say ...at my age this is a keeper !! I have other projects but not going to sell this bird.
Only problem that I have is my long legs hitting the bottom of the extended instrument panel...I discovered that I can man spread and get safe clearance..so decided not to move it toward the nose... A lot of work and James did a really good job with it..
I remember Tripp flying to the Kolb factory at the 2004 or 5 flyin and succeeding years..maybe three.. from the log book...
I have stopped at Norm Labhart field a couple of times lately...pretty sad...grown up...no sounds of Kolbs flying in from the far reaches...Michigan, Alabama...East Tenn..so on...the other John from Texas..Guys buzzing the pattern. Food...Travis and his banjo...drawing for prizes...good times never last!!
Wetumpka? They need to change the welcoming sign!!  Herb
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On Saturday, October 20, 2018 8:25 AM, John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> (jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com) wrote:
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You almost got that right, Wetumpka, the big city 15 miles south of hauck's holler. Must have been a mistake on that historical marker's location. It should be placed up here in the country where I do some serious coffee drinking.
James Tripp's Firestar was well built, not that I gave him a hand every once in a while. He is a good craftsman. That FS made several flights to the Kolb Homecoming in London, KY, and one flight to Nauga Field in Star Hill, LA, home of John Bickham, at the time. John B relocated to a flyin community in Los Lunas, NM. What a change from the swamps of LA to the desert of NM. He is now building a Bearcat. In that same community is our buddy Mike Marker who build a FS in addition to 12 or 13 other aircraft. He just finished up a Carbon Cub a couple years ago. I think he's building an RV8 now. They are part of our Kolb group that show up at the Rock House each year for our annual flyin.
Herb, I reckon you'll get this FS squared away and sell it?
I need to do some cosmetic work on my MKIII. Also need to rebuild the pitch trim system. Needs a new cable. The old system we designed 28 years ago held together for a lot of hours, around 3400.00, the first time around.
Next time you are through the Heart of Dixie, stop by for a cup of coffee.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Pfatchantz
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 10:18 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: urethane fuel (??) line
Meetooo....
I buy gates when I can find it locally..otherwise just std auto fuel line.. Very shocking to grab the yellow stuff and have it disintegrate in ones hand..!
pfatchantz...better know as Herb is back on the list..I think..
A note to say that I enjoyed my over nite in Troy Alabama...and my trip to Slocum and Freedom Field to purchase the much passed around James A. Tripp Kolb Firestar II...5th owner... 450 or so hours on airframe and engine...still looks good save a bit of hangar rash.. went down on the 8th , loaded and caught a motel in Troy.Something about a Hurricane??
Came back via 231...for my experience on I-65 told me that "ole Red" , my 1991 F250 Diesel was not happy on the interstate with everyone going 80 to 90 mph.. some beautiful country and quaint towns to be seen heading toward Huntsville...one I recall...weebumka...something like that? I stopped at the McDonalds there and noticed a historical marker at a table in the corner...said John Hauck was the champion coffee drinker in the restaurant... 750 gallons...as I recall.. Don't remember what year??
James built a really good example of a Kolb Firestar...I have seen his color scheme somewhere?? Amazingly , the landing gear is straight and the wheels are at a proper angle...4 previous owners?? I am on the spot now!!
The first thing I noticed after getting it off of the trailer is how difficult it is to handle with the wings folded and how close the wing leading edge was to the ground. The MkIII and Fireflys were easier..
I welded up a three wheel dolly but got the castering front wheel at an angle... it worked well enough to get it into one side of the garage.. Anyone have a picture of a better one... Gotta do a bit more work...Castering wheels like to be level to the ground..maybe perpendicular is better said?
Anyhow..always enjoy reading the list and hearing of the exploits and linking to the vids..
Hope to have the low time 503 installed in time for next spring...Logs do not show a decarb and they look complete...
Carry on....Herb (on the ridge at Breezy Hill Farm)
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On Friday, October 19, 2018 7:48 PM, John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> (jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com) wrote:
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I buy the fuel line local, a good grade with pretty stiff wall.
I like Gates. Go to their site. They have a lot of new stuff. Was just looking at submersible fuel line for using inside the fuel tank. Most neoprene rubber fuel line is fuel resistant on the inside, but not on the outside. Submersible is resistant inside and out.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of George Helton
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 7:34 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: urethane fuel (??) line
Hello John. Do you use the reinforced neoprene or just the straight neoprene like Aircraft Spruce sells? Thanks, George
George H.
Firestar
Mesick, Michigan
gdhelton(at)gmail.com (gdhelton(at)gmail.com)
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On Oct 19, 2018, at 8:19 PM, John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com (jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com)> wrote:
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I don't know why folks insist on using plastic fuel line. It's an ultralight thing I guess. Stuff is dangerous. Some that use urethane fuel line say they need it so they can see the fuel?????
Way back in prehistoric days of my ultralighting, I automatically used urethane because that's what came in the kits and everyone else was using it.
After some problems I changed over to neoprene rubber fuel line many years ago. Never had a problem with it. Last for a very long time. It has been around for a very long time. But I can't see my fuel......
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Charlie England
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 5:42 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: urethane fuel (??) line
Well, after a year of distractions, I got back on the Kolb this afternoon, hoping to get it flying for our annual Pumpkin Drop here at Slobovia Outernational (MS71). It's been sitting for about 11 months, with the fuel I put in it last year. Non-ethanol premium mogas is what I put in it. I decided to drain the tank to add fresh fuel, so I added some line to the fuel output line (to reach a gas can) and blew into it to pressurize the tank & start fuel flowing. Got great pressure with one lung of air, but only air came back out the line. Finally pulled the fitting (installed in the top of the tank) and it came out with about an inch of the urethane flex line I used to reach the bottom of the tank, with a pickup filter on the other end. You can see in the pic what the pickup line looks like. Strange thing is, the lines on the outside of the tank are in good shape, even though they came off the same roll of fuel line and still have fuel in them.
I guess I'll replace with some teflon lined a/c grade stainless flex line. I must say, I'm a bit surprised that it would rot this badly, this quickly. I thought annual replacement was a precaution; not a "I hope I get this before I die" kind of thing.
BTW, if you're within striking distance of Jackson MS, come on down for the Pumpkin Drop. Contact info on the flier attached.
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