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				 Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:53 am    Post subject: ADS-B out | 
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				Hello Kolbers,
 
 I am wondering if anyone has tackled ADS-B Out installation on their Kolb. I am not finding any inexpensive way to meet this requirement. UAIONIX has a Wing Tip, or Tail Light Strobe ADS-B Out unit for around fifteen hundred bucks. Since I live on the edge of some very busy airspace, I will be following this requirement and doing an installation on my Kolbra. 
 If I lived out in the desert somewhere; might not be so important…. 
 
 Nick Cassara
 Palmer, Alaska
 
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		John Hauck
 
  
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				 Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:23 am    Post subject: ADS-B out | 
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				I too am out in the country, definitely not desert.   
 
 Also sorry to say I have not read the first requirement for ADS-B, but have seen it mentioned and advertised many times.  Am I missing a requirement that I should have installed on my MKIII?
 
 BTW:  Happy Thanksgiving to all my Kolb friends.  Thanks for being there for the past 34 years on this wonderful Kolb flight.
 
 john h
 hauck's holler, Titus, Alabama
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:43 am    Post subject: ADS-B out | 
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				John -
  If you never (or very seldom) fly into ADS-B-designated airspace, then there is no requirement to equip.  A number of my friends and I are not going to install, because we don't fly in/through that airspace. AND because you can request an authorized deviation from ATC if you are not equipped. Check out Federal Regulation 14 CFR § 91.225 and 14 CFR § 91.227 for specific info.
 Have a great Thanksgiving.
 Arty
 Sandy, Oregon
 
  "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
 
          
 
                   
                                                                     On Thursday, November 22, 2018, 10:28:08 AM PST, John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> wrote:                 
                  
 
                  
 
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 I too am out in the country, definitely not desert.  
 
 Also sorry to say I have not read the first requirement for ADS-B, but have seen it mentioned and advertised many times.  Am I missing a requirement that I should have installed on my MKIII?
 
 BTW:  Happy Thanksgiving to all my Kolb friends.  Thanks for being there for the past 34 years on this wonderful Kolb flight.
 
 john h
 
 hauck's holler, Titus, Alabama
 
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				 Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:57 pm    Post subject: ADS-B out | 
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				John, 
  Short answer: If you currently need a mode C transponder to fly where you intend to fly, you will need adsb-out. If you don't, you won't.  
  Charlie
  On Nov 22, 2018, at 1:25 PM, John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com (jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com)> wrote:[quote] [quote]--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
 
 I too am out in the country, definitely not desert.   
 
 Also sorry to say I have not read the first requirement for ADS-B, but have seen it mentioned and advertised many times.  Am I missing a requirement that I should have installed on my MKIII?
 
 BTW:  Happy Thanksgiving to all my Kolb friends.  Thanks for being there for the past 34 years on this wonderful Kolb flight.
 
 john h
 hauck's holler, Titus, Alabama
 
 
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		John Hauck
 
  
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				 Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:26 pm    Post subject: ADS-B out | 
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				Thanks, Arty.
  
 This FAA Pub spells it out pretty well, well enough for me to grasp and understand.
  
 https://www.faa.gov/nextgen/equipadsb/research/
  
 I've been able to fly all over the US, Canada, and Alaska, without having to enter airspace where ADS-B would be required.  Don't think I'll have a requirement for it in the future.
  
 john h
 mkIII
 Titus, Alabama
  
  
  
 From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of TheWanderingWench
 Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2018 12:43 PM
 To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
 Subject: Re: ADS-B out
  
 John -
 
  
 
 If you never (or very seldom) fly into ADS-B-designated airspace, then there is no requirement to equip.  A number of my friends and I are not going to install, because we don't fly in/through that airspace. AND because you can request an authorized deviation from ATC if you are not equipped. Check out Federal Regulation 14 CFR § 91.225 and 14 CFR § 91.227 for specific info.
 
  
 
 Have a great Thanksgiving.
 
  
 
 Arty
 
 Sandy, Oregon
 
  
 
  "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
  
 
  
 On Thursday, November 22, 2018, 10:28:08 AM PST, John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> wrote: 
 
  
 
  
 
 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com (jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com)>
 
  
 
 I too am out in the country, definitely not desert.   
 
  
 
 Also sorry to say I have not read the first requirement for ADS-B, but have seen it mentioned and advertised many times.  Am I missing a requirement that I should have installed on my MKIII?
 
  
 
 BTW:  Happy Thanksgiving to all my Kolb friends.  Thanks for being there for the past 34 years on this wonderful Kolb flight.
 
  
 
 john h
 
 hauck's holler, Titus, Alabama
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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		rickofudall
 
  
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				 Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:04 pm    Post subject: ADS-B out | 
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				Nick, Have you looked at Dynon's new portable ADSB? in their Avweb
 announcement the price right now is $395.
 
 http://dynonavionics.com/drx-portable-adsb.php
 
 Rick
 
 On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 6:28 PM John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> wrote:
 
 [quote] Thanks, Arty.
 
  This FAA Pub spells it out pretty well, well enough for me to grasp and
  understand.
 
  https://www.faa.gov/nextgen/equipadsb/research/
 
  I've been able to fly all over the US, Canada, and Alaska, without having
  to enter airspace where ADS-B would be required.  Don't think I'll have a
  requirement for it in the future.
 
  john h
 
  mkIII
 
  Titus, Alabama
 
  *From:* owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
  owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *TheWanderingWench
  *Sent:* Thursday, November 22, 2018 12:43 PM
  *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com
  *Subject:* Re: ADS-B out
 
  John -
 
  If you never (or very seldom) fly into ADS-B-designated airspace, then
  there is no requirement to equip.  A number of my friends and I are not
  going to install, because we don't fly in/through that airspace. AND
  because you can request an authorized deviation from ATC if you are not
  equipped. Check out Federal Regulation 14 CFR § 91.225
  <http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?node=14:2.0.1.3.10#se14.2.91_1225>
  and 14 CFR § 91.227
  <http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?node=14:2.0.1.3.10#se14.2.91_1227>
  for specific info.
 
  Have a great Thanksgiving.
 
  Arty
 
  Sandy, Oregon
 
   "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
 
  On Thursday, November 22, 2018, 10:28:08 AM PST, John Hauck <
  jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> wrote:
 
  
 
  I too am out in the country, definitely not desert.   
 
  Also sorry to say I have not read the first requirement for ADS-B, but
  have seen it mentioned and advertised many times.  Am I missing a
  requirement that I should have installed on my MKIII?
 
  BTW:  Happy Thanksgiving to all my Kolb friends.  Thanks for being there
  for the past 34 years on this wonderful Kolb flight.
 
  john h
 
  hauck's holler, Titus, Alabama
 
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				 Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:37 pm    Post subject: ADS-B out | 
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				Or, for a little more than half that,
  https://www.amazon.com/Stratux-Receiver-Aviation-Weather-Traffic/dp/B071HMQY19
        
        and you get an included AHARS for those inadvertent excursions       into IMC in your Kolb. 
        
         
        
        Charlie
        
        On 11/25/2018 8:03 PM, Richard Girard wrote:
      
       	  | Quote: | 	 		                         Nick, Have you looked at Dynon's new portable           ADSB? in their Avweb announcement the price right now is $395.           
            
            http://dynonavionics.com/drx-portable-adsb.php
            
            
            
            Rick
          
        
        
                 On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 6:28 PM John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com (jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com)>           wrote:
          
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 Thanks,                   Arty.               
                 
 This                   FAA Pub spells it out pretty well, well enough for me                   to grasp and understand.               
                 
 https://www.faa.gov/nextgen/equipadsb/research/               
                 
 I've                   been able to fly all over the US, Canada, and Alaska,                   without having to enter airspace where ADS-B would be                   required.  Don't think I'll have a requirement for it                   in the future.               
                 
 john                   h               
 mkIII               
 Titus,                   Alabama               
                 
                 
                                                     
 From:                       owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)                       [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)]                       On Behalf Of TheWanderingWench
                        Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2018 12:43 PM
                        To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
                        Subject: Re: ADS-B out                 
                
                
                                                                          
 John -                   
                                         
                     
                                         
 If you never (or                           very seldom) fly into ADS-B-designated                           airspace, then there is no requirement to                           equip.  A number of my                         friends and I are not going to install, because                         we don't fly in/through that airspace. AND                         because you can request an authorized deviation                         from ATC if you are not equipped. Check out                         Federal Regulation 14 CFR                           § 91.225 and 14 CFR                           § 91.227 for specific info.                   
                                         
                     
                                         
 Have a great                         Thanksgiving.                   
                                         
                     
                                         
 Arty                   
                                         
 Sandy, Oregon                   
                                         
                     
                                         
  "I refuse to tip                         toe through life just to arrive safely at                         death."                   
                  
                                     
                   
                                     
                   
                
                                                                         
 On                         Thursday, November 22, 2018, 10:28:08 AM PST,                         John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com (jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com)>                         wrote:                    
                                         
                     
                                         
                     
                                                                
 -->                           Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com (jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com)>                     
                                             
                       
                                             
 I                           too am out in the country, definitely not                           desert.                        
                                             
                       
                                             
 Also                           sorry to say I have not read the first                           requirement for ADS-B, but have seen it                           mentioned and advertised many times.  Am I                           missing a requirement that I should have                           installed on my MKIII?                     
                                             
                       
                                             
 BTW:                            Happy Thanksgiving to all my Kolb friends.                            Thanks for being there for the past 34 years                           on this wonderful Kolb flight.                     
                                             
                       
                                             
 john                           h                     
                                             
 hauck's                           holler, Titus, Alabama                     
                                             
                       
                                             
                       
                                             
                       
                                             
                       
                                             
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 From:                           owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)                           [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)]                           On Behalf Of Nick Cassara                     
                                             
 Sent:                           Thursday, November 22, 2018 11:54 AM                     
                                             
 To:                           kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)                     
                                             
 Subject:                           ADS-B out                     
                                             
                       
                                             
 -->                           Kolb-List message posted by: Nick Cassara <nickc(at)mtaonline.net (nickc(at)mtaonline.net)>                     
                                             
                       
                                             
 Hello                           Kolbers,                     
                                             
                       
                                             
 I                           am wondering if anyone has tackled ADS-B Out                           installation on their Kolb. I am not finding                           any inexpensive way to meet this requirement.                           UAIONIX has a Wing Tip, or Tail Light Strobe                           ADS-B Out unit for around fifteen hundred                           bucks. Since I live on the edge of some very                           busy airspace, I will be following this                           requirement and doing an installation on my                           Kolbra.                      
                                             
 If                           I lived out in the desert somewhere; might not                           be so important….                      
                                             
                       
                                             
 Nick                           Cassara                     
                                             
 Palmer,                           Alaska                     
                                             
                       
                                             
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