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				 Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:41 pm    Post subject: Magnetic heading sensor (ZH-4) | 
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				Ok, in this season of electrical gremlins for me, I have a fresh issue that's just come up...
 My magnetic heading indicator (p/n ZH-4) in the fwd cockpit has always read 
 flawlessly when compared w/ wet compass, and it's snapped to attention 
 when I depress the small "Synch" button above it. My mag heading sensor 
 unit (p/n GHC-2) is back in the empennage.  
 Lately it's been reading 30- 45 deg off from the wet compass.
 Fixing a loose wire in the synch switch hasn't improved it's accuracy.
 Otherwise I haven't touched anything. 
 Other ideas for adjusting or correcting the issue?
 Are there adjustments on the sensor in the tail?
 Inputs, experiences, and advice welcome!
 Thanks-
 Justin Drafts
 N280NC
 
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:38 pm    Post subject: Magnetic heading sensor (ZH-4) | 
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				Excellent background & info, much appreciated Walt!
 
 Not having looked at the GHC-2 in years, I presume there's a straightforward way to check/service the fluid?
 (Will also clean all the cannon plugs.)   -Justin
 On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 8:59 AM Walter Lannon <wlannon(at)shaw.ca (wlannon(at)shaw.ca)> wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		      Hi Justin;
   
  The Gyro stabilized magnetic compass system in the CJ is a complex  “gyrosyn” system most of which I am certainly not qualified to give any guidance  on with one possible exception.
   
  The primary unit (GHC-2) unlike more modern systems is in fact a very large  and very accurate WET magnetic compass.  It’s output is fed through the  stabilizing gyro which corrects turning errors, etc.  before display on the  cockpit indicator.  It looks, not surprisingly, like a WW2 era British  unit.  As such it does require some periodic maintenance.
   
  Your problem of course may be electrical in nature in, or between, any one  of the three units.  But it could also be a purely magnetic compass problem  like loss of fluid or fluid contamination over the years.  I have known  people to top-up or re-fill a compass with petroleum solvent (Varsol, Stoddard,  etc.) since it looks and smells like compass fluid.  It is also loaded with  bacteria that over time can gum up a compass.  
  Compass fluid is basically kerosene, triple distilled to kill the  bugs.   Don’t use anything else.
   
  Unlike your standby compass this one takes a lot of fluid!
   
  Cheers;
  Walt
   
   
   
    From: Justin Drafts (draftsjust417(at)gmail.com) 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:38 PM
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  Subject: Re: Magnetic heading sensor  (ZH-4)
   
 
   Ok, in this season of electrical gremlins for me, I have a  fresh   issue that's just come up...
   
  My magnetic heading indicator (p/n ZH-4) in the fwd cockpit has  always read 
  flawlessly when compared w/ wet compass, and it's snapped to attention  
  when I depress the small "Synch" button above it. My mag heading sensor  
  unit (p/n GHC-2) is back in the empennage.  
   
  Lately it's been reading 30- 45 deg off from the wet compass.
   
  Fixing a loose wire in the synch switch hasn't improved it's  accuracy.
  Otherwise I haven't touched anything. 
   
  Other ideas for adjusting or correcting the issue?
  Are there adjustments on the sensor in the tail?
   
  Inputs, experiences, and advice welcome!
   
  Thanks-
  Justin Drafts
  N280NC
   
   
  
   
 
 
  
 
    	 		 			 				  			 		 		 			
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:46 am    Post subject: Magnetic heading sensor (ZH-4) | 
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				I have the exact same issue. Tried cleaning the plugs and not much help. The other day it was back to normal for one flight and now 40-60 degrees off again.  Not that I use it much but I like everything working correctly in my airplane. I will continue to explore the system and share with you if I have a miraculous discovery. 
 
 Greg "Clouddog " Wrobel 
 On Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 00:42 Justin Drafts <draftsjust417(at)gmail.com (draftsjust417(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		  Excellent background & info, much appreciated Walt!
 
 Not having looked at the GHC-2 in years, I presume there's a straightforward way to check/service the fluid?
 (Will also clean all the cannon plugs.)   -Justin
 On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 8:59 AM Walter Lannon <wlannon(at)shaw.ca (wlannon(at)shaw.ca)> wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		      Hi Justin;
   
  The Gyro stabilized magnetic compass system in the CJ is a complex  “gyrosyn” system most of which I am certainly not qualified to give any guidance  on with one possible exception.
   
  The primary unit (GHC-2) unlike more modern systems is in fact a very large  and very accurate WET magnetic compass.  It’s output is fed through the  stabilizing gyro which corrects turning errors, etc.  before display on the  cockpit indicator.  It looks, not surprisingly, like a WW2 era British  unit.  As such it does require some periodic maintenance.
   
  Your problem of course may be electrical in nature in, or between, any one  of the three units.  But it could also be a purely magnetic compass problem  like loss of fluid or fluid contamination over the years.  I have known  people to top-up or re-fill a compass with petroleum solvent (Varsol, Stoddard,  etc.) since it looks and smells like compass fluid.  It is also loaded with  bacteria that over time can gum up a compass.  
  Compass fluid is basically kerosene, triple distilled to kill the  bugs.   Don’t use anything else.
   
  Unlike your standby compass this one takes a lot of fluid!
   
  Cheers;
  Walt
   
   
   
    From: Justin Drafts (draftsjust417(at)gmail.com) 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:38 PM
  To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com) 
  Subject: Re: Magnetic heading sensor  (ZH-4)
   
 
   Ok, in this season of electrical gremlins for me, I have a  fresh   issue that's just come up...
   
  My magnetic heading indicator (p/n ZH-4) in the fwd cockpit has  always read 
  flawlessly when compared w/ wet compass, and it's snapped to attention  
  when I depress the small "Synch" button above it. My mag heading sensor  
  unit (p/n GHC-2) is back in the empennage.  
   
  Lately it's been reading 30- 45 deg off from the wet compass.
   
  Fixing a loose wire in the synch switch hasn't improved it's  accuracy.
  Otherwise I haven't touched anything. 
   
  Other ideas for adjusting or correcting the issue?
  Are there adjustments on the sensor in the tail?
   
  Inputs, experiences, and advice welcome!
   
  Thanks-
  Justin Drafts
  N280NC
   
   
  
   
 
 
  
 
    	 		 			 				  			 		 		 			
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:39 am    Post subject: Magnetic heading sensor (ZH-4) | 
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				Remember that there is two vacuum tubes in the slaving amplifier. And they
 wear out with use / age.
  
  
 Tom Elliott
 CJ-6A NX63727
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 From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Wrobel
 Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 7:45 AM
 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
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 I have the exact same issue. Tried cleaning the plugs and not much help. The other day it was back to normal for one flight and now 40-60 degrees off again.  Not that I use it much but I like everything working correctly in my airplane. I will continue to explore the system and share with you if I have a miraculous discovery. 
  
 
 Greg "Clouddog " Wrobel 
  
 On Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 00:42 Justin Drafts <draftsjust417(at)gmail.com (draftsjust417(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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 Excellent background & info, much appreciated Walt!
  
 
 Not having looked at the GHC-2 in years, I presume there's a straightforward way to check/service the fluid?
 
  
 
 (Will also clean all the cannon plugs.)   -Justin
  
 On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 8:59 AM Walter Lannon <wlannon(at)shaw.ca (wlannon(at)shaw.ca)> wrote:
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 Hi Justin;
 
  
 
 The Gyro stabilized magnetic compass system in the CJ is a complex “gyrosyn” system most of which I am certainly not qualified to give any guidance on with one possible exception.
 
  
 
 The primary unit (GHC-2) unlike more modern systems is in fact a very large and very accurate WET magnetic compass.  It’s output is fed through the stabilizing gyro which corrects turning errors, etc.  before display on the cockpit indicator.  It looks, not surprisingly, like a WW2 era British unit.  As such it does require some periodic maintenance.
 
  
 
 Your problem of course may be electrical in nature in, or between, any one of the three units.  But it could also be a purely magnetic compass problem like loss of fluid or fluid contamination over the years.  I have known people to top-up or re-fill a compass with petroleum solvent (Varsol, Stoddard, etc.) since it looks and smells like compass fluid.  It is also loaded with bacteria that over time can gum up a compass.  
 
 Compass fluid is basically kerosene, triple distilled to kill the bugs.   Don’t use anything else.
 
  
 
 Unlike your standby compass this one takes a lot of fluid!
 
  
 
 Cheers;
 
 Walt
 
  
 
  
 
 From: Justin Drafts (draftsjust417(at)gmail.com) 
 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:38 PM
 
 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com) 
 
 Subject: Re: Magnetic heading sensor (ZH-4)
 
  
 Ok, in this season of electrical gremlins for me, I have a fresh  
 issue that's just come up...
 
  
 
 My magnetic heading indicator (p/n ZH-4) in the fwd cockpit has always read 
 
 flawlessly when compared w/ wet compass, and it's snapped to attention 
 
 when I depress the small "Synch" button above it. My mag heading sensor 
 
 unit (p/n GHC-2) is back in the empennage.  
 
  
 
 Lately it's been reading 30- 45 deg off from the wet compass.
 
  
 
 Fixing a loose wire in the synch switch hasn't improved it's accuracy.
 
 Otherwise I haven't touched anything. 
 
  
 
 Other ideas for adjusting or correcting the issue?
 
 Are there adjustments on the sensor in the tail?
 
  
 
 Inputs, experiences, and advice welcome!
 
  
 
 Thanks-
 
 Justin Drafts
 
 N280NC
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:24 am    Post subject: Magnetic heading sensor (ZH-4) | 
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				I apologise for asking what might seem to be a silly question, but is there any reason not to navigate with a simple, traditional compass?
  
 Why make life more complicated than is absolutely necessary?
  
  
                                                                                                                                                                      RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS
 Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK
 Tel:  +44 (0)1544 340120   Fax:  +44 (0)1544 340129
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 From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com <owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com> On Behalf Of Greg Wrobel
 Sent: 29 April 2020 15:45
 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
 Subject: Re: Re: Magnetic heading sensor (ZH-4)
 
  
 I have the exact same issue. Tried cleaning the plugs and not much help. The other day it was back to normal for one flight and now 40-60 degrees off again.  Not that I use it much but I like everything working correctly in my airplane. I will continue to explore the system and share with you if I have a miraculous discovery. 
  
 
 Greg "Clouddog " Wrobel 
  
 On Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 00:42 Justin Drafts <draftsjust417(at)gmail.com (draftsjust417(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
  	  | Quote: | 	 		  
 Excellent background & info, much appreciated Walt!
  
 
 Not having looked at the GHC-2 in years, I presume there's a straightforward way to check/service the fluid?
 
  
 
 (Will also clean all the cannon plugs.)   -Justin
  
 On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 8:59 AM Walter Lannon <wlannon(at)shaw.ca (wlannon(at)shaw.ca)> wrote:
  	  | Quote: | 	 		  
 Hi Justin;
 
  
 
 The Gyro stabilized magnetic compass system in the CJ is a complex “gyrosyn” system most of which I am certainly not qualified to give any guidance on with one possible exception.
 
  
 
 The primary unit (GHC-2) unlike more modern systems is in fact a very large and very accurate WET magnetic compass.  It’s output is fed through the stabilizing gyro which corrects turning errors, etc.  before display on the cockpit indicator.  It looks, not surprisingly, like a WW2 era British unit.  As such it does require some periodic maintenance.
 
  
 
 Your problem of course may be electrical in nature in, or between, any one of the three units.  But it could also be a purely magnetic compass problem like loss of fluid or fluid contamination over the years.  I have known people to top-up or re-fill a compass with petroleum solvent (Varsol, Stoddard, etc.) since it looks and smells like compass fluid.  It is also loaded with bacteria that over time can gum up a compass.  
 
 Compass fluid is basically kerosene, triple distilled to kill the bugs.   Don’t use anything else.
 
  
 
 Unlike your standby compass this one takes a lot of fluid!
 
  
 
 Cheers;
 
 Walt
 
  
 
  
 
 From: Justin Drafts (draftsjust417(at)gmail.com) 
 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:38 PM
 
 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com) 
 
 Subject: Re: Magnetic heading sensor (ZH-4)
 
  
 Ok, in this season of electrical gremlins for me, I have a fresh  
 issue that's just come up...
 
  
 
 My magnetic heading indicator (p/n ZH-4) in the fwd cockpit has always read 
 
 flawlessly when compared w/ wet compass, and it's snapped to attention 
 
 when I depress the small "Synch" button above it. My mag heading sensor 
 
 unit (p/n GHC-2) is back in the empennage.  
 
  
 
 Lately it's been reading 30- 45 deg off from the wet compass.
 
  
 
 Fixing a loose wire in the synch switch hasn't improved it's accuracy.
 
 Otherwise I haven't touched anything. 
 
  
 
 Other ideas for adjusting or correcting the issue?
 
 Are there adjustments on the sensor in the tail?
 
  
 
 Inputs, experiences, and advice welcome!
 
  
 
 Thanks-
 
 Justin Drafts
 
 N280NC
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:25 am    Post subject: Magnetic heading sensor (ZH-4) | 
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				Ditto, good point Tom, thanks!J
 On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 10:50 PM Walter Lannon <wlannon(at)shaw.ca (wlannon(at)shaw.ca)> wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		            Good point Tom.
   
  I had forgotten about the amplifier.
   
  Walt
     
   From: Tom Elliott (n13472(at)aol.com) 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 8:37 AM
  To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com) 
  Subject: RE: Re: Magnetic heading sensor  (ZH-4)
   
 
    
 Remember  that there is two vacuum tubes in the slaving amplifier. And  they 
 wear  out with use / age. 
   
   
 Tom  Elliott 
 CJ-6A  NX63727 
 777  Quartz Ave 
 PMB  7004 
 Sandy  Valley NV. 
 89019 
 Cell  541-297-5497 
 N13472(at)AOL.COM (N13472(at)AOL.COM) 
   
   
   
 From:  owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)]  On Behalf Of Greg Wrobel
 Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 7:45  AM
 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
 Subject: Re: Re:  Magnetic heading sensor (ZH-4) 
    
 I have the exact same issue. Tried cleaning the plugs and not  much help. The other day it was back to normal for one flight and now 40-60  degrees off again.  Not that I use it much but I like everything working  correctly in my airplane. I will continue to explore the system and share with  you if I have a miraculous discovery.   
  
   
 Greg "Clouddog " Wrobel 
 
  
     
 On Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 00:42 Justin Drafts <draftsjust417(at)gmail.com (draftsjust417(at)gmail.com)>  wrote:
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 Excellent background & info, much appreciated    Walt!      
  
       
 Not having looked at the GHC-2 in years, I presume there's    a straightforward way to check/service the fluid?
       
  
       
 (Will also clean all the cannon plugs.)      -Justin
 
    
           
 On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 8:59 AM Walter Lannon <wlannon(at)shaw.ca (wlannon(at)shaw.ca)>    wrote:
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 Hi      Justin;
           
  
           
 The Gyro      stabilized magnetic compass system in the CJ is a complex “gyrosyn” system      most of which I am certainly not qualified to give any guidance on with one      possible exception.
           
  
           
 The primary unit      (GHC-2) unlike more modern systems is in fact a very large and very accurate      WET magnetic compass.  It’s output is fed through the stabilizing gyro      which corrects turning errors, etc.  before display on the cockpit      indicator.  It looks, not surprisingly, like a WW2 era British      unit.  As such it does require some periodic      maintenance.
           
  
           
 Your problem of      course may be electrical in nature in, or between, any one of the three      units.  But it could also be a purely magnetic compass problem like      loss of fluid or fluid contamination over the years.  I have known      people to top-up or re-fill a compass with petroleum solvent (Varsol,      Stoddard, etc.) since it looks and smells like compass fluid.  It is      also loaded with bacteria that over time can gum up a compass.       
           
 Compass fluid is      basically kerosene, triple distilled to kill the bugs.   Don’t use      anything else.
           
  
           
 Unlike your      standby compass this one takes a lot of fluid!
           
  
           
 Cheers;
           
 Walt
           
  
           
  
                          
 From:      Justin Drafts (draftsjust417(at)gmail.com) 
           
 Sent:      Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:38 PM
           
 To:      yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com) 
           
 Subject:      Re: Magnetic heading sensor      (ZH-4)
           
  
 
                
 Ok, in this season      of electrical gremlins for me, I have a fresh            
 issue that's just      come up...
           
  
           
 My magnetic      heading indicator (p/n ZH-4) in the fwd cockpit has always read      
           
 flawlessly when      compared w/ wet compass, and it's snapped to attention      
           
 when I depress the      small "Synch" button above it. My mag heading sensor      
           
 unit (p/n      GHC-2) is back in the empennage.  
           
  
           
 Lately it's been      reading 30- 45 deg off from the wet compass.
           
  
           
 Fixing a loose      wire in the synch switch hasn't improved it's      accuracy.
           
 Otherwise I      haven't touched anything. 
           
  
           
 Other ideas for      adjusting or correcting the issue?
           
 Are there      adjustments on the sensor in the tail?
           
  
           
 Inputs,      experiences, and advice welcome!
           
  
           
 Thanks-
           
 Justin      Drafts
           
 N280NC
           
  
           
  
           
  
 
 
           
                 
                                        
                      
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:31 am    Post subject: Magnetic heading sensor (ZH-4) | 
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				There you go being all logical...
 
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 I apologise for asking what might seem to be a silly question, but is there any reason not to navigate with a simple, traditional compass?
  
 Why make life more complicated than is absolutely necessary?
  
  
                                                                                                                                                             RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS
 Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK
 Tel:  +44 (0)1544 340120  Fax:  +44 (0)1544 340129
 e-mail: richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)
 www.russianaeros.com
 WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES
 In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary.
  
 From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com <owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com> On Behalf Of Greg Wrobel
 Sent: 29 April 2020 15:45
 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
 Subject: Re: Re: Magnetic heading sensor (ZH-4)
 
  
 I have the exact same issue. Tried cleaning the plugs and not much help. The other day it was back to normal for one flight and now 40-60 degrees off again.  Not that I use it much but I like everything working correctly in my airplane. I will continue to explore the system and share with you if I have a miraculous discovery. 
  
 
 Greg "Clouddog " Wrobel 
  
 On Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 00:42 Justin Drafts <draftsjust417(at)gmail.com (draftsjust417(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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 Excellent background & info, much appreciated Walt!
  
 
 Not having looked at the GHC-2 in years, I presume there's a straightforward way to check/service the fluid?
 
  
 
 (Will also clean all the cannon plugs.)   -Justin
  
 On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 8:59 AM Walter Lannon <wlannon(at)shaw.ca (wlannon(at)shaw.ca)> wrote:
  	  | Quote: | 	 		  
 Hi Justin;
 
  
 
 The Gyro stabilized magnetic compass system in the CJ is a complex “gyrosyn” system most of which I am certainly not qualified to give any guidance on with one possible exception.
 
  
 
 The primary unit (GHC-2) unlike more modern systems is in fact a very large and very accurate WET magnetic compass. It’s output is fed through the stabilizing gyro which corrects turning errors, etc.  before display on the cockpit indicator.  It looks, not surprisingly, like a WW2 era British unit.  As such it does require some periodic maintenance.
 
  
 
 Your problem of course may be electrical in nature in, or between, any one of the three units.  But it could also be a purely magnetic compass problem like loss of fluid or fluid contamination over the years. I have known people to top-up or re-fill a compass with petroleum solvent (Varsol, Stoddard, etc.) since it looks and smells like compass fluid. It is also loaded with bacteria that over time can gum up a compass.  
 
 Compass fluid is basically kerosene, triple distilled to kill the bugs.   Don’t use anything else.
 
  
 
 Unlike your standby compass this one takes a lot of fluid!
 
  
 
 Cheers;
 
 Walt
 
  
 
  
 
 From: Justin Drafts (draftsjust417(at)gmail.com) 
 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:38 PM
 
 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com) 
 
 Subject: Yak-List: Re: Magnetic heading sensor (ZH-4)
 
 
 Ok, in this season of electrical gremlins for me, I have a fresh  
 issue that's just come up...
 
  
 
 My magnetic heading indicator (p/n ZH-4) in the fwd cockpit has always read 
 
 flawlessly when compared w/ wet compass, and it's snapped to attention 
 
 when I depress the small "Synch" button above it. My mag heading sensor 
 
 unit (p/n GHC-2) is back in the empennage.  
 
  
 
 Lately it's been reading 30- 45 deg off from the wet compass.
 
  
 
 Fixing a loose wire in the synch switch hasn't improved it's accuracy.
 
 Otherwise I haven't touched anything. 
 
  
 
 Other ideas for adjusting or correcting the issue?
 
 Are there adjustments on the sensor in the tail?
 
  
 
 Inputs, experiences, and advice welcome!
 
  
 
 Thanks-
 
 Justin Drafts
 
 N280NC
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
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				Nope, nothing wrong at all with the tried & true wet compass...The ex-aero engineer (=perfectionist ) in me just likes to keep existing systems on the plane in decent working order.
 There are definitely much better ways to navigate, ie a variety of affordable GPS's,  but I'm a nostalgic purist...
 Justin
 On Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 11:32 AM Richard Goode <richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)> wrote:
 
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 I apologise for asking what might seem to be a silly question, but is there any reason not to navigate with a simple, traditional compass?
  
 Why make life more complicated than is absolutely necessary?
  
  
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 From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) <owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)> On Behalf Of Greg Wrobel
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 Subject: Re: Re: Magnetic heading sensor (ZH-4)
 
  
 I have the exact same issue. Tried cleaning the plugs and not much help. The other day it was back to normal for one flight and now 40-60 degrees off again.  Not that I use it much but I like everything working correctly in my airplane. I will continue to explore the system and share with you if I have a miraculous discovery. 
  
 
 Greg "Clouddog " Wrobel 
  
 On Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 00:42 Justin Drafts <draftsjust417(at)gmail.com (draftsjust417(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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 Excellent background & info, much appreciated Walt!
  
 
 Not having looked at the GHC-2 in years, I presume there's a straightforward way to check/service the fluid?
 
  
 
 (Will also clean all the cannon plugs.)   -Justin
  
 On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 8:59 AM Walter Lannon <wlannon(at)shaw.ca (wlannon(at)shaw.ca)> wrote:
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 Hi Justin;
 
  
 
 The Gyro stabilized magnetic compass system in the CJ is a complex “gyrosyn” system most of which I am certainly not qualified to give any guidance on with one possible exception.
 
  
 
 The primary unit (GHC-2) unlike more modern systems is in fact a very large and very accurate WET magnetic compass.  It’s output is fed through the stabilizing gyro which corrects turning errors, etc.  before display on the cockpit indicator.  It looks, not surprisingly, like a WW2 era British unit.  As such it does require some periodic maintenance.
 
  
 
 Your problem of course may be electrical in nature in, or between, any one of the three units.  But it could also be a purely magnetic compass problem like loss of fluid or fluid contamination over the years.  I have known people to top-up or re-fill a compass with petroleum solvent (Varsol, Stoddard, etc.) since it looks and smells like compass fluid.  It is also loaded with bacteria that over time can gum up a compass.  
 
 Compass fluid is basically kerosene, triple distilled to kill the bugs.   Don’t use anything else.
 
  
 
 Unlike your standby compass this one takes a lot of fluid!
 
  
 
 Cheers;
 
 Walt
 
  
 
  
 
 From: Justin Drafts (draftsjust417(at)gmail.com) 
 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:38 PM
 
 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com) 
 
 Subject: Re: Magnetic heading sensor (ZH-4)
 
  
 Ok, in this season of electrical gremlins for me, I have a fresh  
 issue that's just come up...
 
  
 
 My magnetic heading indicator (p/n ZH-4) in the fwd cockpit has always read 
 
 flawlessly when compared w/ wet compass, and it's snapped to attention 
 
 when I depress the small "Synch" button above it. My mag heading sensor 
 
 unit (p/n GHC-2) is back in the empennage.  
 
  
 
 Lately it's been reading 30- 45 deg off from the wet compass.
 
  
 
 Fixing a loose wire in the synch switch hasn't improved it's accuracy.
 
 Otherwise I haven't touched anything. 
 
  
 
 Other ideas for adjusting or correcting the issue?
 
 Are there adjustments on the sensor in the tail?
 
  
 
 Inputs, experiences, and advice welcome!
 
  
 
 Thanks-
 
 Justin Drafts
 
 N280NC
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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