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				Larry: I had a shimmy problem in my CJ that bugged me for quite some time. I had the CJ for almost 10 years before it cropped up. It started out as an occasional nuisance and one day it shook bad and did break the splined shaft. OH dampener but still a transient nuisance problem on takeoff and under braking. Over a period of time changed nose tire, balanced nose wheel, changed nose tire again and reversed direction of wheel - that finally fixed it. I believe my root cause was the tendency of the Desser tires to go out of round if left to sit for an extended time particularly if the tire becomes oil contaminated and/or low on pressure. I am more careful caring for my nose tire tire now. BTW there was no doubt the shaft broke the day it let go. Doug has the parts, I did source thin stainless washers elsewhere to shim scissors per PLA MM. Hope this helps.
 Jay Wells
 1985 CJ6A 
                   
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      1. 05:50 AM - Shimmy vibration?  (motoadve)
 
      2. 07:36 AM - Re: Shimmy vibration?  (Larry Pine)
 
      3. 10:55 AM - Re: Shimmy vibration?  (doug sapp)
 
      4. 03:40 PM - Re: Shimmy vibration?  (motoadve)
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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 Time: 05:50:16 AM PST US
 
 Subject: Shimmy vibration?
 
 From: "motoadve" <larry(at)motoadventuring.com (larry(at)motoadventuring.com)>
 
 It had happened twice, once landing on grass strip that transitions to pavement,
 
 the nose wheel got back in the air a bit and when it touched down, got lots
 
 of vibration, whole plane shaking.
 
 Second time I did a landing and bounced, (short field and wanted to be down before
 
 I should , had too much energy) when it touched down again lots of vibration,
 
 whole plane shaking.
 
 Both times I thought I had a flat tire.
 
 Take offs , no vibration , and regular landings no vibration, seems to be the nose
 
 wheel does not likes to come back up in the air because the second time it
 
 touches down generates a lot of vibration.
 
 Any ideas what causes this (apart from lousy landing )  
 
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 Time: 07:36:04 AM PST US
 
 From: Larry Pine <threein60(at)yahoo.com (threein60(at)yahoo.com)>
 
 Subject: Re: Shimmy vibration?
 
 Service shimmy dampener=C2-
 
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 On Saturday, May 2, 2020, 05:59, motoadve <larry(at)motoadventuring.com (larry(at)motoadventuring.com)> wrote
 
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 It had happened twice, once landing on grass strip that transitions to pave
 
 ment, the nose wheel got back in the air a bit and when it touched down, go
 
 t lots of vibration, whole plane shaking.
 
 Second time I did a landing and bounced, (short field and wanted to be down
 
  before I should , had too much energy) when it touched down again lots of 
 
 vibration, whole plane shaking.
 
 Both times I thought I had a flat tire.
 
 Take offs , no vibration , and regular landings no vibration, seems to be t
 
 he nose wheel does not likes to come back up in the air because the second 
 
 time it touches down generates a lot of vibration.
 
 Any ideas what causes this (apart from lousy landing )  
 
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 www.Backcountry182.com
 
 Cessna 182 P
 
 CJ -6
 
 Read this topic online here:
 
 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=496160#496160
 
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 Time: 10:55:27 AM PST US
 
 From: doug sapp <dougsappllc(at)gmail.com (dougsappllc(at)gmail.com)>
 
 Subject: Re: Shimmy vibration?
 
 Could be several things:
 
 Linkage worn
 
 Scissors worn
 
 Splined shaft (in damper) sheared
 
 Damper needs overhauled
 
 My guess is that the splined shaft is sheared.  I have o/h kits and new
 
 splined shafts if you discover you need them.
 
 Best,
 
 Doug
 
 On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 5:53 AM motoadve <larry(at)motoadventuring.com (larry(at)motoadventuring.com)> wrote:
 
 
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   pavement, the nose wheel got back in the air a bit and when it touched
 
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   down, got lots of vibration, whole plane shaking.
 
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Second time I did a landing and bounced, (short field and wanted to be
 
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   down before I should , had too much energy) when it touched down again lots
 
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   of vibration, whole plane shaking.
 
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Both times I thought I had a flat tire.
 
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Take offs , no vibration , and regular landings no vibration, seems to be
 
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   the nose wheel does not likes to come back up in the air because the second
 
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   time it touches down generates a lot of vibration.
 
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Any ideas what causes this (apart from lousy landing )  
 
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 Time: 03:40:07 PM PST US
 
 Subject: Re: Shimmy vibration?
 
 From: "motoadve" <larry(at)motoadventuring.com (larry(at)motoadventuring.com)>
 
 Thanks Doug, good to hear from you, will keep you posted.
 
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