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chuck515tigger(at)yahoo.c
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:01 pm Post subject: Fuel Pump, Boost Pump, Electric Pump

Okay Guys & Gals,   Just to give "closure" to this issue, I wussied-out and took the path of least resistance (and the most $$$).   I just sent my Dukes pump back to Dukes Inc.   The cost was $440 for a complete overhaul and it took 10 calendar days total door-to-door.   It works great and I probably won't regret it unless it fails in the next four years.   

   

  If it does fail, I'll wish I would have built up my own system.   And I still might, for my "in-the-works"  3-pete offender RV-4 project (wings & tail done, fuselage out-of jig, engine awaits tear-down).  Sheeeett...  Now I remember why I coughed-up the $$$, I don't have any time and I want to fly my 4 !!!

   

  Chuck



Charlie Kuss <chaztuna(at)adelphia.net> wrote:

  [quote]Dan,

 I wrote that post and I can't find it either. I've saved some of this info on my hard drive. FYI, I wasn't the first one to figure out you could buy this stuff.

 I am including some of the stuff I saved on this subject below.

Charlie Kuss



I bought the same pump (API) from NAPA this morning.  I will have to use the plumbing and parts off of my API pump, but not a problem.  The cost was

$134.  Carter P/N is P74015.  The box it came in reads Supplied to NAPA by Carter Fuel Systems  Federal Mogul Southfield, MI.

Kevin Ebsen



Listers,

 I checked with my local auto parts supplier. The part number supplied by Kevin is the actual Carter part number. These pumps are used on the following vehicles.

1983-86   Ford & Mercury 4 cylinder engines

1971-82   Volvo 4 cylinder engines

1976-82       "     6     "           "

1975-77   BMW  6 cylinder engines

1975-80   Cadillac 8 cylinder engines



I was quoted $137 (wholesale)  Even if this is not a savings over API's price, it's valuable information to have. At least if your pump fails, you know you can get one at an auto parts store, rather than Fed Ex ing one from API.

Charlie Kuss



The filter is from "Flow Ezy".

  www.flowezy.com   

I have a model 4ILA with 3/8 pipe thread, 74 micron screen, viton O-ring,  black color. PN- 4ILA-03-74-F3-BL

Be careful when modifying your fuel system. Unexpected things can happen.

George Meketa        RV8,        ACGM(at)GVTC.COM     N444TX, 261.3 hours



FYI, This is a slightly smaller version of the 6 ILA model Airflow Performance sells. Pegasus Auto Racing carries this item now, with Viton seals (resists auto fuels, gasahol, etc) and a 25 micron screen. I convinced RV-9A builder Chris Heitman (the owner) to stock these by arranging a "group purchase" several years ago. I am using 2 of these units, one in each wing root area. See



http://flowezy.freeyellow.com/racingMODEL_4ILA.html



http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecId=3469



For those who have the stock 6ILA filter sold by Airflow Performance and Vans, you can get the Viton seals and better screen filter elements from Flow Ezy or one of their distributors. It's  harder to find the model 6 ILA filter on Flow Ezy's web site, as they consider it a "high pressure filter".  See the 8th item from the top of the page below.



http://198.170.245.162/flowezypagehydraulicfilters.html#HIGHPRESSUREIN-LINEFILTER 



I hope this helps



Charlie Kuss



  [quote]

 

 

Hi Mike,

 

I tried to find message "121131" in the archives, but apparently it won't let me search on the message number.  There are 1573 hits on "fuel pump".  Any suggestions on how to find messages relevant to this pump?

 

do not archive

 

Thanks,

Dan Hopper

RV-7A IO-360-A1A

 

 

In a message dated 9/12/2006 6:42:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mstewart(at)iss.net  writes:

    --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart(at)iss.net>



  A direct fuel pump replacement for the AFP electric fuel pump is the

  Carter fuel pump part number P74015



  I have replaced mine on the road before readily available from Napa or

  autozone ~$120

  A search of the archives will help. Message 121131



  It was Charlie Kuss that had all the G2 on the pumps and filters. I had

  2 pumps maybe 3 die on my rv-6 in 1500 hours. I had to run my pump above

  7k' for vapor lock so mine ran a lot. A change in the filter element to

  a finer filter solved the problem and I used that same smaller micron

  filter for my 8.

  Enjoy,

  Mike



 



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chuck515tigger(at)yahoo.c
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:15 pm Post subject: Fuel Pump, Boost Pump, Electric Pump

I've included this email exchange for others who may want Dukes info and or the archives.

   

   

   

  Greg Lewin <lewin(at)dukesinc.com> wrote: 

   	  Quote: 	
		  Subject: RE: Fuel-Boost pump rebuild kit

Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 11:03:55 -0700

From: "Greg Lewin" <lewin(at)dukesinc.com>

To: "Chuck" <chuck515tigger(at)yahoo.com>



    Chuck,

  The 12 volt equivalent to the 4140-00-15 is 4140-00-17. The repair kit is 2140-220 or the overhaul kit is  2140-224. The repair kit cost is $260.00 and the overhaul kit is $295.00. The overhaul kit contains all of the same parts as the repair kit plus bearings and brushes for the motor. 

Please be aware that the pump will require recalibration on a fuel bench after the parts are installed !

The pump can be returned to Dukes for overhaul, cost is $440.00.



  Regards

  Greg Lewin

  Dukes Inc.

  Product Support



      From: Chuck [mailto:chuck515tigger(at)yahoo.com] 

Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 6:34 PM

To: Greg Lewin

Subject: RE: Fuel-Boost pump rebuild kit

  

  Greg,

   

  The pump looks like your part number 4140-00-15, except it's 12 volt and puts out about 18 psi.   It has thr "Dukes Inc" standard red metal label, but there's no part number, no serial number, or any info fill out in the blanks on the label.   On the pump part of it (not the electric motor part) I can read "DBL  IMP  AMC"   but I haven't a clue what that means.   

   

  The pumps spins, when current is applied, but won't pressurize.   I took it apart and found the shaft pin is sheared-off in the shaft.   I figure I should just replace the vanes, seals, etc...    I have this on  my RV-4 (I built from scratch; as well as I have earned my FAA Repairman's certificate to go with it.)    Any thoughts or recommendations would be appreciated.

   

  Sincerely, Chuck



Greg Lewin <lewin(at)dukesinc.com> wrote:

   	  Quote: 	
		      Chuck,

  Kits can be ordered direct from Dukes but we will need to know the part number of the pump to verify which kit you need.

   

  Regards

  Greg Lewin

  Dukes Inc

  Product Support



	
	


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